Regular Member Scandinavian Posted August 29, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted August 29, 2015 Hi I am a 26 year old guy from Norway. I am wearing a hairpiece. Have been since I was 20 years. I dont know at what point I started loosing hairs, but I would guess around 17-18 and very aggressively. I became very aware of it by the age of 19 and became severly depressed. I wanted to do something about it and started wearing the piece. I started taking propecia but the doctor told me that I wouldnt get the results that I wanted from it, since my hairloss already had progressed a lot. I used a lot of toppik and transitioned to the hairpiece without anybody except my family knowing. I am happy with the visual perspective of the piece, but have been very unhappy about wearing it for the past two years and longing for a permanent results. I have been on a consultation with a FUE-surgion in my country. Here are the information he gave me at the meeting: - He told me I am young and that he cant predict how my hairloss will progress. He told me that I would loose all of the hairs in the areas I am thinning or completely bald and might loose hairs on the sides. He told me that if I am lucky I will end up as NW5a and if unlucky NW6. - Because of my age and the uncertainty he didnt want to extract a lot of hairs. He told me that after the operation and the hairs have grown out I can expect 40% of the density that I currently have on the sides of my head. He said he can give me some coverage but it will look like a guy who is balding. The density would be approximately 60 hairs per square centimeter. - He told me my donor areas was somewhat above average. I got very sad after the consultation because the look of a balding man is the look I escaped right before starting with the piece. It is not an option nor a result I would be happy with. I was wondering if it could be an option for me to transplant beard hairs to my head in order to achieve a higher density? I have attached a photo of my beard and would gladly donate all of it. Links like this gives me great hope: https://www.dermhairclinic.com/beard...-11000-grafts/ Does anyone know of a surgion who could do this in Europe? I have attached photos from last time I was at the hairdresser changing the piece. As you can see the hairs where the piece is glued to the skin is shaved but the hairdensity is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted August 29, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted August 29, 2015 Have you thought about FUT first ? That's what i would start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Scandinavian Posted August 29, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 29, 2015 I dont think that is something I want to do, since I am afraid of the scar. Dont you think that enough hairs from the beard and FUE could results in a good density? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member justgotfue Posted August 29, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted August 29, 2015 Hi, both lorenzo and Bisanga do beard to scalp transplants. Also, to present loss of the transplanted hair, both doctors will want you to take propecia. If I were you I'd start taking it now. Most guys who have a transplant face the risk of loosing more hair, hence the necessity of propecia. Don't have high expectations about it growing new hair but it almost always maintains current hair, which will be very important if you have a transplant. Also, both of the doctors I mentioned will want to use a mixture of beard and scalp transplants. The scalp-to-scalp transplant will be used for your hairline as it is softer and looks more natural, and your beard will be used in mixture with more scalp to add denstity further back. This is the usual strategy. Hence, propecia being necessary to maintain the scalp-to-scalp transplants, particularly in your hairline which visually is probably the most important part. Good luck, and keep using these forums, there are a lot of helpful, knowledgeable and friendly guys here who can give you lots of advice and know exactly how you're feeling. You're not alone buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member justgotfue Posted August 29, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted August 29, 2015 Hi, both lorenzo and Bisanga do beard to scalp transplants. Also, to present loss of the transplanted hair, both doctors will want you to take propecia. If I were you I'd start taking it now. Most guys who have a transplant face the risk of loosing more hair, hence the necessity of propecia. Don't have high expectations about it growing new hair but it almost always maintains current hair, which will be very important if you have a transplant. Also, both of the doctors I mentioned will want to use a mixture of beard and scalp transplants. The scalp-to-scalp transplant will be used for your hairline as it is softer and looks more natural, and your beard will be used in mixture with more scalp to add denstity further back. This is the usual strategy. Hence, propecia being necessary to maintain the scalp-to-scalp transplants, particularly in your hairline which visually is probably the most important part. Good luck, and keep using these forums, there are a lot of helpful, knowledgeable and friendly guys here who can give you lots of advice and know exactly how you're feeling. You're not alone buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member justgotfue Posted August 29, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted August 29, 2015 Just to add, you would need an in person consultation to confirm, but I think your scalp donor area at the back looks like you have a lot of thick density, so you may not need to use the beard. dr lorenzo has hundreds of YouTube videos where you may see a patient with a hairline similar to yours (just search injertocapilar youtube). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sethticles Posted August 29, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted August 29, 2015 what ever you decide, you'll most likely need two or three HT's, FUE will need to be done over a longer period of time, FUT a shorter time frame, June 2013 - 3000 FUE Dr Bhatti Oct 2013 - 1000 FUE Dr Bhatti Oct 2015 - 785 FUE Dr Bhatti Dr. Bhatti's Recommendation Profile on the Hair Transplant Network My story and photos can be seen here http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/Sethticles/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Scandinavian Posted August 29, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 29, 2015 Thank you for the reply. I will contact both surgions. I think this videos is so amazing: Wish I lived more near a surgion who could achieve this.. So in reality. If I dont mind donate all of my beard hairs, I could get a high density like in this video? Like Dr U says, that guy transformed into a NW0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jamesbrian547 Posted August 29, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted August 29, 2015 Thank you for the reply. I will contact both surgions. I think this videos is so amazing: Wish I lived more near a surgion who could achieve this.. So in reality. If I dont mind donate all of my beard hairs, I could get a high density like in this video? Like Dr U says, that guy transformed into a NW0. I would recommend trying a Surgeon from Turkey. As It will be resonable in terms of price and there some good doctors who can create something really good on you. I would not recomment FUT for you as you will probably regret this scars after getting old. I was with a patient yesterday who had FUT twice and he thinks he made something really really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Scandinavian Posted August 29, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 29, 2015 Thanks for the reply. FUT is not an opion for me. I dont want that kind of a scar. Does anyone in Turkey do body hair transplants? I need it in order to get a good density. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted August 29, 2015 Administrators Share Posted August 29, 2015 Scandinavian, Dr. Doganay does beard to scalp transplants, hes quite cheap as well, Dr. Umar though I think is the best out there for bodyhair, I don't think anyone is getting consistent results like him, but he's probably double the cost, generally his grafts are $7-8 for bodyhair, I dont know how much that translates in Euros. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Scandinavian Posted August 30, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 30, 2015 Thanks. I will do research on him. For me its important that the surgion can do big sessions and transplant a lot of hairs in one journey. I understand that Dr Umar does this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jamesbrian547 Posted August 31, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted August 31, 2015 Thanks for the reply.FUT is not an opion for me. I dont want that kind of a scar. Does anyone in Turkey do body hair transplants? I need it in order to get a good density. Did you check this? flyhealth.co.uk I guess they can do that. At least they can give you some idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member darlinglocks Posted August 31, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted August 31, 2015 Scandinavian, There are many FUE surgeons doing BHT on this forum. Check out all the doctors you can if you don't mind travelling abroad. I had my FUE done by Dr. Tejinder Bhatti in Chandigarh India. Dr. Bhatti does mega session FUE and BHT too. So check out what is best for you, ask questions and do some online consultations Darlinglocks FUE 1524 grafts by Dr. Tejinder Bhatti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Scandinavian Posted August 31, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 31, 2015 The irony is that I have permanemtly removed most of my body hairs. Except my beard..which I would gladly donate 100% in order to get a full head of hairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member darlinglocks Posted September 1, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted September 1, 2015 Well Scandinavian, Dr. Bhatti among others uses a combination of beard hair and scalp for those who need it. So you might aswel ask for an online consultation. Darlinglocks FUE 1524 grafts with Dr. Tejinder Bhatti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Niko1 Posted September 3, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) I feel for you Scandinavian, I was in the same situation, using a ton of toppik than hiding under my norse projects snapbacks. Its tough first of all DO NOT rush into anything. Research and contact good FUE Doctors. Your donor seems average or even above imo, similar to mine so you really need to tread carefully in terms of choosing a reputable HT doctor who is going to deliver the results you want. IMO you need to chose a doctor who has vast experience in large FUE 4000 + and BHT experience with the results to show. You can not afford to get it wrong, and ruin you donor supply. Look for a doctor who has operated on lots of patients similar to you, In terms of age, hair characteristics, complexion etc and do not let traveling abroad limit your options. I traveled from London to Indian to have my HT.. Be careful if you're thinking about a HT in Turkey, There are 100s of clinics that offer FUE + BHT but only around 8 doctors are producing top FUE results constantly. Most clinics are run by doctors who have their trained staff (technicians) preform the ENTIRE procedure, from extracting the grafts to implanting them. Some of these clinics will offer unlimited grafts at a cheap rate but the results will be ???????? Do not base your hopes in the results of a patient who has received 20,000 grafts FUE + BHT , he is the 1 in a million and probably has millions in the bank. Have realistic expectations and realize you will need at least 2 procedures, so planning is very important........... Look at the recommended physicians, their patient results + patient experiences on this forum, so you can make a well informed decision. Good luck Scandinavia and Let us know your plan of action........ Informative You tube Channel - Spencer Kobren's The Bald Truth Edited September 3, 2015 by Niko1 Journey - https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/54302-10000-grafts-dht-eugenix-india-sep2017-2018jan2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Scandinavian Posted September 5, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 5, 2015 Thanks for your reply Niko. I have sent you a message :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Scandinavian Posted September 6, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 6, 2015 Lately Ive been thinking about if I should start taking propecia before or together with a hairtransplant. I never really gave it a try before starting with the hairpiece. Do you think it can be usefull for me or have I lost too much hair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted September 7, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 7, 2015 Lately Ive been thinking about if I should start taking propecia before or together with a hairtransplant. I never really gave it a try before starting with the hairpiece.Do you think it can be usefull for me or have I lost too much hair? Its definitely useful, it will also maintain your sides high, they may drop in the future, with that being said, the side effects are no joke, I suggest starting on a very low dose, I tried Finasteride and Dutasteride and unfortunately both gave me side effects that were not good for a young man. Have you tried minoxidil? only side effect I get that from that is itchy scalp but thats nothing. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Scandinavian Posted September 7, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 7, 2015 The side effects make me a little hesitant. But they are rare, right? What kind of sides did you experience? I cant apply minoxidil because of the hairpiece.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted September 8, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 8, 2015 The side effects make me a little hesitant. But they are rare, right?What kind of sides did you experience? I cant apply minoxidil because of the hairpiece.. Sides are rare, most guys in here out on fin with no sides. When I started fin I was 21 I took it without knowing or even researching the side effects. One time I was with a girl sexually, we had sex, then an hour later when we tried again nothing, at that time I could have sex several times a night, anyways I was not able to have sex for the rest of the night. It was beyond embarrassing. I continued taking the fin I kept having problems getting an erection I was depressed, I went to the dr and told him I was taking Fin for my hairline, he told me the sides and I almost flipped, needless to say I discontinued it, luckily the side effects went away once I stopped. That's just me though, you may not get anything, the way our bodies react to androgens are very different, some guys have testosterone levels at 300 with no effects other guys feel they have low testosterone at 600 level. It does help in main ting your hair, you don't have much to maintain, but the only thing is the sides of your head are very high that's the only thing you could maintain. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Scandinavian Posted September 24, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) I have started using propecia to see if it can have a positive effect for me. Last time I was at the hairdresser we draw the area that needs hair on a see-there square cm papir and I have now counted that the area is approximately 149 square cm. That is with a low hairline with some temples resession. The distribution is: Crown: 35 square cm Middcalp: 45 square cm Front/hairline: 69 square cm Edited September 24, 2015 by Scandinavian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Scandinavian Posted October 3, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 3, 2015 Here is another photo. Do you think finasteride can help me? I am hoping it can minimize the area that needs HT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Scandinavian Posted October 3, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 3, 2015 ...another pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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