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First, some background on myself. I'm 57 years old and have been losing my hair since I was 25. I tried Rogaine when it first came out and it did nothing for me. I have been on propecia for about 4 years and it has stabilized my loss but it stabilized at a norwood 5A. I had been thinking about a HT for a good many years ----I'm glad that I was too poor to afford one until now because of the poor results of transplants until the last few years when FU techniques became commonplace and more reasonably priced.

The internet has been a godsend of information ( as long as you do your research and don??t believe everything you read), I found Doctor Jeffrey Epstein (and other highly qualified HTsurgeons) on the internet during extensive research. Since I live in Michigan and Doc Epstein practices in Florida, I did my initial consultation via E-mail. The doc quickly answered my e-mails and also called me on the phone so we could discuss the pictures that I had sent him.

We decided that 2500 grafts would be a good place to start ( although I could use more, I couldn't afford more). Since I had contacted him before his recent price increase, ( necessary due to increased staff salaries and higher rent and insurance costs) , he agreed to honor his old prices ---$8200 for 2500 grafts ( in the end, I actually received 3115 grafts---the extra 615 were FREE---but I'll get to that later).

My wife and I flew to Miami, Florida on April 10th 2004 for my procedure (on April 12th ) and stayed for 2 weeks to make it a combination procedure and vacation.. I was hoping I would feel good enough after the procedure to be able to vacation ( as it turned out, I only stayed "holed-up " in my hotel room for the first day after my surgery---I felt surprisingly well ).

My wife and I arrived at Doc Epstein's office at about 9:00 AM on the 12th . After a pre-surgery discussion with the Doc about what our "game-plan" would be, I was introduced to the technicians that would be helping out that day ( I believe there were 7) and ushered into the operating room. Doc Epstein was happy to see that I had a very dense donor area and average laxity along with straight, dark brown ( almost black) hair----I think he was as excited about doing my hair as I was about having it done!!! I was hooked up to a heart rate monitor, a blood--oxygen monitor and had a blood pressure cuff placed on my arm. During my procedure, these instruments were regularly checked to make sure everything was going smoothly.

Doc Epstein uses a special instrument ( brand named "the Wand" ) to administer the local anesthetic at a controlled rate and thereby minimizing the pain felt during numbing the donor and recipient areas. I have a low threshold for pain and, even though " the Wand" was used, administering the anesthesia HURT LIKE HELL !!!! Doc Epstein apologized for the pain and his technicians did their best to comfort me, but it still made me wonder what I'd gotten myself into ( however, after the anesthesia set in, the rest of the procedure was totally painless). Like I said, I have a VERY low pain threshold and it was evidenced by the fact Doc Epstein said that, normally, it takes only one or , at the most, 2 passes of "the Wand" over the recipient area to fully numb it---in my case, it took THREE passes to numb mine ( my dentist always gives me a double dose of novocain when he works on my teeth ).

Earlier, Doc Epstein had asked me if I objected to having my recipient area " shaved " ( I had the option to leave it long if I wanted to) and I told him that he could shave it if it helped him do his job ( I wasn't going to do anything to jeopardize my hard earned dollars ) so it was trimmed with scissors to probably 1/2 inch in length. When my head felt numb like it should ( like it had a tight-fitting helmet on it ) , the Doc proceeded to remove the donor strip. I don't remember a lot about what happened next because I was "in and out" of a valium --induced sleep, but I do remember the technicians that were dissecting the FU's ( using huge stereo microscopes ) commented that I had a lot of very unusual " SIX --HAIR FU's ". Doc Epstein double checked, and confirmed that I did indeed have 6-hair FU's.

Doc Epstein did all of the lateral slits in the recipient area and placed a good portion of the grafts himself ( especially in the frontal hairline area). In 5 hours ( more or less ) I was done and ready to be cleaned up. Instead of the 2500 grafts that I had paid for , I received 3115 grafts !!!!!!! The doc knew that I had plenty of space for any extra grafts, and so he purposely "went heavy " on the donor strip---the result was that I won't have a bare spot where the grafts end and my native hair begins. I had been planning on a second procedure, but with the extra grafts I shouldn't need one !!!!

In the end, I received 404 -- one hair grafts, 1169----2 hair grafts, and 1542 ---3, 4 and 6 hair grafts---- grand total----3115 grafts. I was cleaned up and outfitted with a cool looking blue bandanna to wear over my head and then was given a " care package" consisting of instructions, pain pills, anti-biotic pills, a large spray-- bottle of "Graftcyte" ( very expensive if you have to buy it yourself), a month's supply of " Rogaine 5%", and a jar of "Toppik" in a color that matched my hair---everything was included in the price of the procedure ( a lot of clinics offer these extras at an extra cost but not Doc Epstein ---they were all included with the procedure)

My wife and I went back to the hotel and I expected to be very uncomfortable for the next 3 or 4 days. To my surprise, I didn't need any pain pills and I had virtually no swelling ( Doc Epstein doesn't inject saline solution into your scalp for the procedure like a lot of places do---thereby eliminating the swelling that saline would cause and keeps your face from looking like a huge marshmallow ). On the second day post-op, I went back to the doctor's office for a check-up and shampoo and then it was off shopping and sight-- seeing. I felt surprisingly great!!!! The "graftcyte" spray that I applied every hour kept the grafts from itching and, since there was a motorcycle show the coming weekend, my bandanna clad head fit right in with the crowd. On the 8th day post-op I had the stitches removed ( virtually painless ) and everything checked again---I was good to go.

It is now 4 weeks post-op and about 30 percent or so of the grafts have shed ( due to shock) and I've had a few in-grown hairs where the stitches were removed. The numbness is nearly all gone and the tenderness of the donor site is totally gone. Now I just have to wait for the results.

In conclusion, I feel that Doc Epstein did a FANTASTIC job---the donor scar is thin, I will have a good ---looking ,mature hairline ( if everything grows in like expected) and his generosity in purposely giving me enough extra grafts to cover my entire bald area ( instead of leaving a small bare spot and the necessity of having to return for another procedure) has all added up to a TOTALLY POSITIVE EXPERIENCE. The whole time I was there, Doc Epstein and his staff made me feel comfortable and confident in their ability and attention to details. Doctor Epstein seems to thoroughly enjoy his work and his generosity proves that money is not his only motivation ----he goes the extra mile because he takes pride in doing an excellent job. I will post some pictures soon. Sincerely, Gerald ( fed

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First, some background on myself. I'm 57 years old and have been losing my hair since I was 25. I tried Rogaine when it first came out and it did nothing for me. I have been on propecia for about 4 years and it has stabilized my loss but it stabilized at a norwood 5A. I had been thinking about a HT for a good many years ----I'm glad that I was too poor to afford one until now because of the poor results of transplants until the last few years when FU techniques became commonplace and more reasonably priced.

The internet has been a godsend of information ( as long as you do your research and don??t believe everything you read), I found Doctor Jeffrey Epstein (and other highly qualified HTsurgeons) on the internet during extensive research. Since I live in Michigan and Doc Epstein practices in Florida, I did my initial consultation via E-mail. The doc quickly answered my e-mails and also called me on the phone so we could discuss the pictures that I had sent him.

We decided that 2500 grafts would be a good place to start ( although I could use more, I couldn't afford more). Since I had contacted him before his recent price increase, ( necessary due to increased staff salaries and higher rent and insurance costs) , he agreed to honor his old prices ---$8200 for 2500 grafts ( in the end, I actually received 3115 grafts---the extra 615 were FREE---but I'll get to that later).

My wife and I flew to Miami, Florida on April 10th 2004 for my procedure (on April 12th ) and stayed for 2 weeks to make it a combination procedure and vacation.. I was hoping I would feel good enough after the procedure to be able to vacation ( as it turned out, I only stayed "holed-up " in my hotel room for the first day after my surgery---I felt surprisingly well ).

My wife and I arrived at Doc Epstein's office at about 9:00 AM on the 12th . After a pre-surgery discussion with the Doc about what our "game-plan" would be, I was introduced to the technicians that would be helping out that day ( I believe there were 7) and ushered into the operating room. Doc Epstein was happy to see that I had a very dense donor area and average laxity along with straight, dark brown ( almost black) hair----I think he was as excited about doing my hair as I was about having it done!!! I was hooked up to a heart rate monitor, a blood--oxygen monitor and had a blood pressure cuff placed on my arm. During my procedure, these instruments were regularly checked to make sure everything was going smoothly.

Doc Epstein uses a special instrument ( brand named "the Wand" ) to administer the local anesthetic at a controlled rate and thereby minimizing the pain felt during numbing the donor and recipient areas. I have a low threshold for pain and, even though " the Wand" was used, administering the anesthesia HURT LIKE HELL !!!! Doc Epstein apologized for the pain and his technicians did their best to comfort me, but it still made me wonder what I'd gotten myself into ( however, after the anesthesia set in, the rest of the procedure was totally painless). Like I said, I have a VERY low pain threshold and it was evidenced by the fact Doc Epstein said that, normally, it takes only one or , at the most, 2 passes of "the Wand" over the recipient area to fully numb it---in my case, it took THREE passes to numb mine ( my dentist always gives me a double dose of novocain when he works on my teeth ).

Earlier, Doc Epstein had asked me if I objected to having my recipient area " shaved " ( I had the option to leave it long if I wanted to) and I told him that he could shave it if it helped him do his job ( I wasn't going to do anything to jeopardize my hard earned dollars ) so it was trimmed with scissors to probably 1/2 inch in length. When my head felt numb like it should ( like it had a tight-fitting helmet on it ) , the Doc proceeded to remove the donor strip. I don't remember a lot about what happened next because I was "in and out" of a valium --induced sleep, but I do remember the technicians that were dissecting the FU's ( using huge stereo microscopes ) commented that I had a lot of very unusual " SIX --HAIR FU's ". Doc Epstein double checked, and confirmed that I did indeed have 6-hair FU's.

Doc Epstein did all of the lateral slits in the recipient area and placed a good portion of the grafts himself ( especially in the frontal hairline area). In 5 hours ( more or less ) I was done and ready to be cleaned up. Instead of the 2500 grafts that I had paid for , I received 3115 grafts !!!!!!! The doc knew that I had plenty of space for any extra grafts, and so he purposely "went heavy " on the donor strip---the result was that I won't have a bare spot where the grafts end and my native hair begins. I had been planning on a second procedure, but with the extra grafts I shouldn't need one !!!!

In the end, I received 404 -- one hair grafts, 1169----2 hair grafts, and 1542 ---3, 4 and 6 hair grafts---- grand total----3115 grafts. I was cleaned up and outfitted with a cool looking blue bandanna to wear over my head and then was given a " care package" consisting of instructions, pain pills, anti-biotic pills, a large spray-- bottle of "Graftcyte" ( very expensive if you have to buy it yourself), a month's supply of " Rogaine 5%", and a jar of "Toppik" in a color that matched my hair---everything was included in the price of the procedure ( a lot of clinics offer these extras at an extra cost but not Doc Epstein ---they were all included with the procedure)

My wife and I went back to the hotel and I expected to be very uncomfortable for the next 3 or 4 days. To my surprise, I didn't need any pain pills and I had virtually no swelling ( Doc Epstein doesn't inject saline solution into your scalp for the procedure like a lot of places do---thereby eliminating the swelling that saline would cause and keeps your face from looking like a huge marshmallow ). On the second day post-op, I went back to the doctor's office for a check-up and shampoo and then it was off shopping and sight-- seeing. I felt surprisingly great!!!! The "graftcyte" spray that I applied every hour kept the grafts from itching and, since there was a motorcycle show the coming weekend, my bandanna clad head fit right in with the crowd. On the 8th day post-op I had the stitches removed ( virtually painless ) and everything checked again---I was good to go.

It is now 4 weeks post-op and about 30 percent or so of the grafts have shed ( due to shock) and I've had a few in-grown hairs where the stitches were removed. The numbness is nearly all gone and the tenderness of the donor site is totally gone. Now I just have to wait for the results.

In conclusion, I feel that Doc Epstein did a FANTASTIC job---the donor scar is thin, I will have a good ---looking ,mature hairline ( if everything grows in like expected) and his generosity in purposely giving me enough extra grafts to cover my entire bald area ( instead of leaving a small bare spot and the necessity of having to return for another procedure) has all added up to a TOTALLY POSITIVE EXPERIENCE. The whole time I was there, Doc Epstein and his staff made me feel comfortable and confident in their ability and attention to details. Doctor Epstein seems to thoroughly enjoy his work and his generosity proves that money is not his only motivation ----he goes the extra mile because he takes pride in doing an excellent job. I will post some pictures soon. Sincerely, Gerald ( fed

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Congratulations on a great experience...I too remember the anxiety and still am now that I'm only 2 months post op...The evidence shows that things will get better between 3-5 months and longer and can hardly wait!! A positive experience with your doctor from the start is in my opinion worth the price of admission...

 

Once again, congrats and happy growing!!

Is it 6 months yet??

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Congratulations to a fellow 57er and NW 5a. Man we won't have to fuss about our hair again until we're say... in our 70's (lol). The exception to this is Uncjim who won't have to fuss until...oh 91 or 92 icon_smile.gif. The hard part is now over - you made your selection, you had the work, now sit back and admire the changes as they occur. Put up some pics when your ready so people can see another example of what Doc Epstein can accomplish.

 

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Congrats on your good experience. I am considering Dr. Epstein as well; I think he does great work from what I've seen. Please post photos if you can. You did mention that he did not inject saline in the recipient area. I thought that this inflated the scalp a bit and allowed tighter packing of the grafts. It seems like it helped with your swelling but is there a trade off with less density or am I mistaken?

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Hello Buddyebson; I think what you're refering to is like, when you blow up a balloon and draw something on it ( with a "dry-marker" ) or, for instance, put 3 dots on it( representing hair grafts)--each one ince apart. Then, when you deflate the balloon, the drawing is much smaller or the dots are closer together( deflated, maybe the dots are 1/8 inch apart). I'm sure the same thing would happen with your scalp. HOWEVER just think how little you scalp expands when saline is injected into it---VERY LITTLE. If it expands very little, it will also contract very little leaving VERY LITTLE difference in the spacing of the grafts. A balloon expands 10 or 20 times its deflated size and therefore makes a noticeable difference in spacing of the dots ( or "hair grafts") ----I sure as heck wouldn't want my head or scalp expanded that much ( although sometimes I think my wife would like my other head expanded by 10 or 20 times icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif). Anyway---I can't see how injecting saline can expand you scalp enough to make a difference--I will post some pics soon ( my son is scheduled to visit me this weekend and he's gonna check out my computer---it keeps locking up and I have to re-boot it all the time. I can't be online for more than a couple of minutes and --poof--it's screwed. In order to post my transplant story I had to copy it and then hurry up and paste it before my computer screwed up)

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Well guys---here's a few pics ---one before and 2 after. I know---they're kinda fuzzy, but what can you expect from a cheap digital camera I borrowed (I took pictures with the digital camera of the pictures I had developed from my film camera). Well, here they are ( you really don't want to see my ugly self in a crystal clear pic anyway)

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Hey Hairbethere ( Rooster75) MY scar is healing great except in 2 small places where I have some in-grown hairs but they seem to be getting better too. It's almost 6 weeks out from my operation now and I've shed about 1/2 to 3/4 of the grafts but the rest of them that have stayed are growning real well. My wife says she sees lots of little black spots where the hair that I shed is starting to grow again. Howz your "do" doing?

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Just an update---I'm 9 weeks out and haven't had any further shedding since the 3rd week. New hair is slowly sprouting in between the hair that didn't shed but I'm getting impatient( just like everyone else when they were in my position I guess)My donor scar has healed very thin ( it's still a little red yet tho) and I'm not having as many ingrown hairs as I did a couple of weeks ago ( thank God---they suck). When I save up some more cash, Id like to have intralasik eye surgery ( jeez---I guess that'll result in my very own mini "Extreme Makeover"). Only problem with getting rid of my glasses is that then, everyone will be better able to see my big nose ( nose job next?---naw I don't think so--I'd lose all my "character")

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fedup, in addition to the question i posed to you in another post:

 

You mentioned $8200 for 2500 graphs at Dr. Epstein. What was the price breakdown exactly?

 

Thanks, and looking good!

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Check out the results of my surgical hair restoration performed by Dr. Jerry Cooley by visiting my Hair Loss Weblog

 

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socialdrinker: The $8200 for 2500 grafts was the price before his recent price increase. Doc Epstein has a breakdown of current prices on his website. What you must take into account also is that Epstein offers a travel reimbursment that is deducted from his prices and also,included in the price, are post-op care items that many other doctors only provide at extra cost--Epstein includes these in his prices. The post-op extras he includes are: Graftsyte spray ( Very pricey if you have to buy it on your own), Rogaine 5%, and Toppik in your hair color. There are also the usual antibiotics, pain pills, head bandanna, etc too ( I believe every clinic includes these last items in the cost).

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Can you get graftsyte or a substitue by going to the ocean and bottling up some of the sea water.And if so,why are the physicians charging for this?

 

The medication and the cost allocation for stay/travel is pennies on the dollar compared to the cost of the procedure!But everyone need to sugar coat their clinic and make it seem like the golden "EGG" and that their giving you items for free.WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!There's nothing free and no one does you a favor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Solid; Graftsyte is not saline--it contains copper and other stuff that was developed for helping burn victims heal faster and better. Also, tell a Bosley or Nobel clinic patient that he got what he paid for and I think you'll get an earful

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Hey FedUp77

Before you get any LASIK eye surgery, be sure to do your homework just like you would before a hair transplant.

 

Just like HT, there are less-skilled and less-ethical clinics out there, that you should avoid. Some LASIK centers concentrate more on sales than they do on good results, and not everybody is using the latest techniques. Be careful!

 

And there is no guarantee that you will not need your eyeglasess after LASIK. Also, some people are better candidates for LASIK than others, and some patients should avoid LASIK completely.

 

Look at the website SurgicalEyes for more info.

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Yeah, i saw a show about lasik clinics not too long ago. The company that they said to watch out for is the one that you always see advertising $299 per eye in the sunday paper. It said they even had TOUR BUSES in which they do the procedures from. Now, I dont know about anyone else, but Ill be DAMNED if im going to trust my eyes to delicate equipment that is being jostled around along the highway all the time.

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Hey Arfy----thanks for putting me on to that website about laser eye surgery. It sure is an eye opener---looks like HTs aren't the only surgery that is full of pitfalls in the hands of the wrong surgeon

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Hey Arfy----thanks for putting me on to that website about laser eye surgery. It sure is an eye opener---looks like HTs aren't the only surgery that is full of pitfalls in the hands of the wrong surgeon

Sure thing buddy.

 

Really any kind of outpatient surgery that's done in a walk-in clinic should be researched and double-checked. That includes things like liposuction, breast enhancement, facial surgery etc. I've read some disturbing things about all of these various types of clinics.

 

You really have to be extra careful when you're considering any elective surgery.

 

How are you doing re: your recent surgery with Dr. Epstein? I think you are at about 10 weeks now (?) any signs of new growth yet?

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