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First TP was success, now did second. Opinions?


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Hi,

 

I've posted here a few times. Yesterday I did my second transplant, it went great and the results from the first one were great too. I bumped my head soon after the first transplant and some follicles died and some turned to grow into a slightly wrong direction. I'll write another topic to tell this story :)

 

What do you think of my results? I attached two pictures of how my hair used to look like before operations, other one is with a lot of toppik to make it look fuller. One pic is 11 months after the first operation (no toppik or anything, just hair gel and stuff like that to lift it up), absolutely dramatic improvement. And one I took today, one day after the operation.

 

The first operation was about 1700 hair follicles only restoring the hairline and temples. The second was about 2500 hair follicles, strengthening the hairline and temples even more for a double effect, and also filling up the whole head here and there to add thickness. Also we pulled the temples a few millimetres even more forward now.

 

I'm really happy how successful this has been so far, and the operation yesterday went great. My only regret or worry is, that from the very first operation I might have wanted to move my hairline even further down and temples even further forward. With this second transplant I didn't want to do it anymore, more than just a few millimetres in the temple area, because I don't want to look "layered". Otherwise it would have demanded even a third operation to fill it up again.

 

So... What do you think of the place of my hairline? What do you think of my results so far?

 

I can see how one could get addicted to this cycle of hair transplants. I already desire a lower hairline. And if I had the foresight I guess I could have had it already. But at the time of the first transplant all I wanted was the temples to move forward, that's all I thought. It was the idea of the hair transplant surgeon to fill up the whole hairline, she even lowered my frontal hairline a just a little bit, and thank god she did. Then again I am very happy that these operations have been so successful. I also quit drinking and eating trash, started yoga and started using some hair-friendly supplements daily and hair-growth shampoos. And also finasteride for two years now. So all these things together have made a dramatic difference.

 

Now, let's see how this one will turn out... :) Hopefully the hairline will be something I can be truly satisfied with. I really wanted this to be my last hair transplant, at least for 20 years or more. I'm 25 now.

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Here's another picture I took today. Btw I've had a high hairline and temples since birth. But this bothers me, should I some day lower my hairline even more? It's 6cm above my eyebrows. There is some very minor swelling on my forehead though, maybe that has an impact on how this looks too.

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Hair,

 

I agree: the swelling makes it hard to evaluate hairline placement in the most recent picture. 6cm above the mid-glabella point sounds pretty reasonable. Generally, most transplanted hairlines are placed 5.5 -7.5 cm above the mid-glabella. This, of course, doesn't take cases with limited grafts, advanced NW patients, and a dismissal of DaVinci's "rule of thirds" into consideration. Lowering a hairline requires a lot of grafts. If it's lowered without adequate supply, it can create a sparse and aesthetically displeasing appearance in the most visible region of the scalp. This is why experts recommend approaching aggressive lowering cautiously. Having said that, I would wait until the 12 month mark before considering lowering the hairline further. If you have adequate density, and still want to lower it after 12 months, discuss it with your surgeon at that point.

 

Congratulations!

"Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc"

 

Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum

 

All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician.

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Please don't lower your hairline - as you mature, it will naturally move back a bit and you will be chasing it for the next 40 years if you lower it. Concentrate on a healthy natural looking hairline.

 

And give your girlfriend her shorts back.

I'm serious.  Just look at my face.

 

My Hair Regimen: Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

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Future_HT_Doc that's good, that's what I'm going to do. Well see within a year if I still feel like there is any reason to operate even further. Right now the hairline is kind of where it should be naturally if I had no receding whatsoever since childhood / teenagers. Maybe 1-3 millimeters higher, but I'm not sure. Maybe not. But then again I was born with a high hairline. Definitely I have no complaints of how well these operations were done, we'll see if this one heals nicely and grows to it's full potential, that's the most important thing isn't it.

 

voxman those shorts are not my girlfriends, they are my grandmas. She got them from her grandmother. And one day I will pass them on to my grandson. And I understand your point about the hairline. I do have quite a bit of hair supply left in the back of my head though.

 

If I'm being absolutely straight with myself, my dream hairline really is about 6 - 8 millimetres lower than what this is now, but that is not what I was born with. Is it smart and practical to create it in the future, is it worth the money and trouble and loss of hair supply (and density) in the back of my head, that's another question. And will I desire it anymore after this one starts to grow, we'll see. Also, that would be lower than I ever had, so it's not just about fighting hairloss anymore, it's beyond that already.

 

Sorry for the long jargon and personal stuff, hope you guys don't mind. Bottom line, if all goes well and grace is on my side, my hairline is now successfully restored and much of the lost density throughout my head also restored. And being what I am, I would love to have an even lower hairline.

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It's low enough. Most people would kill for a hairline like that.

 

In the words of Leonardo Da Vinci, the perfect man's face is in thirds (the distance between chin and nose, nose and eyebrows, eyebrows and hairline, should all be equal).

 

Of course, not all look perfect (I'm 6.5-7-7).

4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013

1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018

763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020

Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day

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