Regular Member Jay6 Posted June 23, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted June 23, 2014 Hi everyone. Back in December 2013, I had a transplant with Dr. Vories. It's been over 6 months now and I'm pretty disappointed with the results. I'm back to keeping my hair buzzed as the primary purpose of the transplant - a much improved hairline and denser mid-scalp - hasn't been realized. I thought I would have seen excellent results by now due to my photos from 2 weeks post op. Sadly, I haven't come close to those photos. I will say this about Dr. Vories, though - he is super friendly and made the experience very comfortable and priced the procedure at a very affordable rate. Maybe I'm just destined to be bald since this wasn't my first failed HT. He does have great result photos on his website, so maybe it's just me. Just wanted to share my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hsrp10 Posted June 23, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 23, 2014 sorry to hear that, any pre-op and post-op pics as well as current situation? 6 months is still on the early side for growth, and some are even slow growers was it FUT or FUE btw? go dense or go home Unbiased advice and opinions based on 25 plus years of researching and actual experience with hair loss, hair restoration via both FUT & FUE, SMP, scalp issues including scalp eczema & seborrheic dermatitis and many others HSRP10's favorite FUT surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr Hasson, Dr. Rahal HSRP10's favorite FUE surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Couto (*indicates actual experience with doctor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Blake Bloxham Posted June 23, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 23, 2014 Hi Jay, Have you touched base with Dr. Vories? Like HSRP said, 6 months is still very early. You are only roughly 40% matured, and obviously still have a lot of potential for further growth and maturation. Can you share some images? Perhaps this will help us better analyze the growing results and offer more helpful feedback. "Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc" Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Jay6 Posted June 24, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 24, 2014 Hey guys. Thanks for your input. No, I haven't contacted Dr. Vories. I didn't think 6 months was too early. Reading through threads on here, 6 months seems like the point where posters say you won't see much improvement going forward. Here are some pics from before the HT and 9 days post-op. I haven't taken any recent pics just because my hair looks funny with it grown out for more than a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Blake Bloxham Posted June 24, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 24, 2014 Jay, While the 6 month mark may give you some idea of "where you're headed," it is far from the final result. In fact, it is roughly 6 months and 60% from the final result. And though the pre-operative and 9 day post-operative images are helpful, it would really be better to share a recent image. Can you take one soon and share it? I would also be more than happy to contact Dr. Vories and ask him to review the thread if you'd like. Look forward to your reply. "Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc" Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Jay6 Posted June 24, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 24, 2014 Jay, While the 6 month mark may give you some idea of "where you're headed," it is far from the final result. In fact, it is roughly 6 months and 60% from the final result. And though the pre-operative and 9 day post-operative images are helpful, it would really be better to share a recent image. Can you take one soon and share it? I would also be more than happy to contact Dr. Vories and ask him to review the thread if you'd like. Look forward to your reply. Future_HT_Doc: I can take a pic soon, but like I said I keep my hair buzzed just because of how it looks now. I can let it grow out and post pics on Friday. Would love to hear your input on where you think I'm currently at and if I still have ways to go. I wouldn't mind Dr. Vories chiming in either. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Blake Bloxham Posted June 24, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 24, 2014 Hey Jay, Not a problem! I'm here to help : ) Look forward to the images. I'll let Dr. Vories know to. As you know, he's very dedicated and I have no doubt he will review the thread and leave a helpful reply. "Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc" Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Michael Vories, MD Posted June 24, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted June 24, 2014 Jay- 6 months is far from a finished product, although I am concerned about the next few months. There should be substantial growth between months 6 and 9 if this is a case of delayed growth. Part of the procedure is to have both a 6 month and 12 month follow-up with me. Please arrange to keep these appointments, and keep in mind we do have a 85% graft survival rate guarantee at the one year mark. This is there so you will have some measure of comfort for the final result. Thanks! Dr. Mike Vories is recommended on the Hair Transplant Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Cant decide Posted June 25, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 25, 2014 Jay- 6 months is far from a finished product, although I am concerned about the next few months. There should be substantial growth between months 6 and 9 if this is a case of delayed growth. Part of the procedure is to have both a 6 month and 12 month follow-up with me. Please arrange to keep these appointments, and keep in mind we do have a 85% graft survival rate guarantee at the one year mark. This is there so you will have some measure of comfort for the final result. Thanks! Doc-With all due respect, an 85% growth guarentee is weak considering top docs should be able to hit 95+ survival rate on a routine basis; Especially with FUT. My Hairloss Web Site - Procedure #1: 5229 Grafts with Dr. Rahal Oct, 2010 Procedure #2: 2642 Grafts with Dr. Rahal Aug, 2013 7871 Grafts http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2452 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member losingmyhair123 Posted June 25, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 25, 2014 i believe he is strictly FUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aWidowsPeek Posted June 25, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 25, 2014 Vories only does FUE. A hair transplant doctor with any guarantee is amazing in my book i mean come on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Cant decide Posted June 25, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted June 25, 2014 My bad. If he is only doing FUE, 85% makes more sense. My Hairloss Web Site - Procedure #1: 5229 Grafts with Dr. Rahal Oct, 2010 Procedure #2: 2642 Grafts with Dr. Rahal Aug, 2013 7871 Grafts http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2452 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Jay6 Posted June 27, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 27, 2014 Here are the pics I've promised after buzzing it 5 days ago. This is 6+ months after my HT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aWidowsPeek Posted July 10, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted July 10, 2014 Doesn't look too great does it : / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairweare Posted July 11, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted July 11, 2014 I would assume that the risk for transection during extraction would be greater in an Afro-American patient which may have been the reason for the poor growth in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Jay6 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 2, 2014 Hi Jay, Have you touched base with Dr. Vories? Like HSRP said, 6 months is still very early. You are only roughly 40% matured, and obviously still have a lot of potential for further growth and maturation. Can you share some images? Perhaps this will help us better analyze the growing results and offer more helpful feedback. Any feedback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Blake Bloxham Posted August 2, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted August 2, 2014 Hi Jay, Feedback on what? "Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc" Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Jay6 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 2, 2014 Hi Jay, Feedback on what? Hi Future_HT_Doc: On the first page of this thread you said, "Can you share some images? Perhaps this will help us better analyze the growing results and offer more helpful feedback." After sharing the images, I thought you would offer more helpful feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member TygerD Posted August 8, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted August 8, 2014 I am an African male and I had a procedure with this Vories back in summer 2012. The result was also poor. I talked to a recommended Doctor from the west coast on here afterwards who has a great track record with African Americans and he explained to me how and why the neograft transects coarse African American hairs. Out my grafts, about 45% grew. On the bright side, the clinic did live up to their refund policy. I was at the 8 month mark when it became quite evident that my result was very unsatisfactory and wasn't going to dramatically change. I hate to be a bearer of bad news but looking at your photos it doesn't look promising going forward. If you're considering a second procedure, Dr Cooley whose also in North Carolina does great work with African American males and his prices are reasonable. Good luck bro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Jay6 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 8, 2014 I am an African male and I had a procedure with this Vories back in summer 2012. The result was also poor. I talked to a recommended Doctor from the west coast on here afterwards who has a great track record with African Americans and he explained to me how and why the neograft transects coarse African American hairs. Out my grafts, about 45% grew. On the bright side, the clinic did live up to their refund policy. I was at the 8 month mark when it became quite evident that my result was very unsatisfactory and wasn't going to dramatically change. I hate to be a bearer of bad news but looking at your photos it doesn't look promising going forward. If you're considering a second procedure, Dr Cooley whose also in North Carolina does great work with African American males and his prices are reasonable. Good luck bro! Thanks for the info. I recently read your thread discussing your results and desire for a refund. I wish I found it before I did my HT but figured I made the right choice since he was a recommended doctor. I'd like to ask you a question. Please check your messages. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Cryingoutloud Posted August 22, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted August 22, 2014 As I was reading through this thread, I found myself thinking about TygerD's experience with the same surgeon and then, as if by magic, he appears in the thread. Jay6, I feel for you. I don't give a toss what the doctor says; the "slow grower" line is pure BS. After 6 months you should be able to see a damn sight more growth than that. You DO NOT want to be given the brush off with "give it 12 or 18 months". The surgeon didn't deliver; that's it, plain and simple! Why prolong the disappointment - get it dealt with ASAP. You've lost 6 months already; don't make it a year Ask for a refund and get yourself to a surgeon who's actually competent with African hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Jay6 Posted August 22, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 22, 2014 As I was reading through this thread, I found myself thinking about TygerD's experience with the same surgeon and then, as if by magic, he appears in the thread. Jay6, I feel for you. I don't give a toss what the doctor says; the "slow grower" line is pure BS. After 6 months you should be able to see a damn sight more growth than that. You DO NOT want to be given the brush off with "give it 12 or 18 months". The surgeon didn't deliver; that's it, plain and simple! Why prolong the disappointment - get it dealt with ASAP. You've lost 6 months already; don't make it a year Ask for a refund and get yourself to a surgeon who's actually competent with African hair. You're right. I plan on asking for a refund. I'm actually approaching the 9 month mark on Sept. 9th. I saw what TygerD went through to get his refund, and I'm guessing I'll go through the same. Sucks because it looked so promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member stinger99 Posted August 22, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted August 22, 2014 Does dr goriest still use neograft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member stinger99 Posted August 22, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted August 22, 2014 dr vories, damn iPad spell check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member TygerD Posted August 23, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted August 23, 2014 Does dr goriest still use neograft? That's a Freudian slip if I ever seen one! How apropos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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