eac194 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Hi everyone. Posted this in the wrong subforum earlier. I had my procedure about 7.5 months ago. It was 1600 grafts to my frontal area. I'm getting quite worried about my donor scar area. It seems to be quite "bald" and a little pink still. I just got a haircut a couple days ago, and decided to return to my normal shorter length on the sides and back of head (about a 2). Big mistake. I took some pictures, and I was disappointed in the look of my scar. I've attached some pictures. In picture 001, it doesn't look so bad; looks like it could get better with time. But in 012 - 015 the scar is quite nasty-looking, probably also somewhat due to my head being turned down. 018 is a close up. Can you guys (and gals) tell me if this progress is normal for nearly 8 months post-op. Is is possible there is still some shock loss that needs to grow back yet? Anyone have a similar experience that actually turned out for the better? Thanks for your time in responding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member StaggerLee123 Posted June 4, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 4, 2013 The redness will eventually subside. Your scar looks to have stretched a bit there in that one pic for sure and at 8 months I think that any shockloss would have grown back. The good news is that if you let your hair grow out just a little bit no one will be the wiser. Use a little concealer and nobody will notice for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member alix Posted June 4, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 4, 2013 your scar looks a bit stretched,but it's not fully healed and takes at least a year to fully heal and for redness to fade.it's best if you give it more time. also with a strip ht,number 2 cut is not a good idea and I think any scar will become apparent.with fut you need to keep your hair a little longer regardless of width of the scar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eac194 Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 The redness will eventually subside. Your scar looks to have stretched a bit there in that one pic for sure and at 8 months I think that any shockloss would have grown back. The good news is that if you let your hair grow out just a little bit no one will be the wiser. Use a little concealer and nobody will notice for now. True, longer hair can cover the scar better, but I look better with short hair. And I'm stubborn because longer hair on the sides makes me look weird. Still disappointed with scar area. I'll just hope that things improve over the next months. If not, scar revision time. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mickey85 Posted June 4, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 4, 2013 Grade 2 with strip is very hard to pull off. The general consensus is a grade 3. I hope things get better for you but at 8 months i dont think it is still shockloss The only 2 threads you will ever need: Revamped Advantages/Disadvantages of FUE. Myths dispelled. Educate yourself Everything FUE. Manual, motorized, ARTAS, NeoGraft, physician details and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member tacolinowest Posted June 4, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 4, 2013 maybe after a year if its still bad you can try smp be4 going threw with the revision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MAGNUMpi Posted June 4, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 4, 2013 Hope the scar gets better with time! It's a shame that the HT procedure is still producing scars like this on people. Just seems so backwards. Hope in the next few years this will be completely outdated by solid FUE with high yield. Sorry to say you might have to look into revision. But wait until 12 months. It still might smooth out a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eac194 Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 maybe after a year if its still bad you can try smp be4 going threw with the revision what is smp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member tacolinowest Posted June 4, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 4, 2013 Smp is a temporary "tattoo" lasts about 2 years, they use diff ink and a diff needle,, basically they tattoo wat looks like stubble into your scar, research it i think you will like what you see, I'm gonna do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member greatjob Posted June 5, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'm curious if your doctor told you pre-op that you would be able to shave down to a 2 guard, or if it was discussed at all. In all the cases I have seen I think there have been maybe 2 or 3 strip patients that have been able to shave down to a 2 guard. Typically a 4 guard is as low as most strip patients are able to go without the scar showing, some aren't even able to go that low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Nick153452 Posted June 5, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 5, 2013 I really really really really really really fear anything to happen to my scar. This is making me nervous. My Hair Loss Website Surgical Treatments: Hair transplant 5-22-2013 with Dr. Paul Shapiro at Shapiro Medical Group Total grafts transplanted: 3222 *536 singles *1651 doubles * 961 triples, *74 quadruples. Total hairs transplanted: 7017 Non-Surgical Treatments: *1.25 mg finasteride daily *Generic minoxidil foam 2x daily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mickey85 Posted June 5, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'm curious if your doctor told you pre-op that you would be able to shave down to a 2 guard, or if it was discussed at all. In all the cases I have seen I think there have been maybe 2 or 3 strip patients that have been able to shave down to a 2 guard. Typically a 4 guard is as low as most strip patients are able to go without the scar showing, some aren't even able to go that low. I had a doctor tell me a grade 2 or 3 would be possible... naturally he was trying to sell me strip over fue... The only 2 threads you will ever need: Revamped Advantages/Disadvantages of FUE. Myths dispelled. Educate yourself Everything FUE. Manual, motorized, ARTAS, NeoGraft, physician details and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member greatjob Posted June 5, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 5, 2013 I had a doctor tell me a grade 2 or 3 would be possible... naturally he was trying to sell me strip over fue... Well technically shaving to a 2 or 3 is possible, but not probable. There is a fine line in this industry between selling yourself and creating unreasonable expectations that will inevitably end in disappointment. Often the clinics roll as an educator is overlooked, and I think it ultimately hurts the clinic. If doctors don't spend enough time making sure the patient is fully informed about the reality and all possible outcomes of the procedure they are only creating problems for themselves when inflated expectations are not met. The response to how close the donor area can be cut post op should be somewhere between a 2 guard and a 6 guard depending on many factors that occur during the healing process. Not being able to go below a 6 guard is probably not the norm, but neither is being able to shave to a 2 guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sparky Posted June 6, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2013 how many mm long is it? looks longer than a number 2. My Hairloss Website http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mickey85 Posted June 6, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2013 Well technically shaving to a 2 or 3 is possible, but not probable. There is a fine line in this industry between selling yourself and creating unreasonable expectations that will inevitably end in disappointment. Often the clinics roll as an educator is overlooked, and I think it ultimately hurts the clinic. If doctors don't spend enough time making sure the patient is fully informed about the reality and all possible outcomes of the procedure they are only creating problems for themselves when inflated expectations are not met. The response to how close the donor area can be cut post op should be somewhere between a 2 guard and a 6 guard depending on many factors that occur during the healing process. Not being able to go below a 6 guard is probably not the norm, but neither is being able to shave to a 2 guard. Very rare that i have seen a strip undetected at grade 2(if ever). I just feel it was unethical for the doc to say 'dont worry about the strip scar, my patients get away undetected with a grade 2 or 3'. It was a doc i consulted with before i went with someone else but the notion stayed with me The only 2 threads you will ever need: Revamped Advantages/Disadvantages of FUE. Myths dispelled. Educate yourself Everything FUE. Manual, motorized, ARTAS, NeoGraft, physician details and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Cant decide Posted June 6, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2013 I think on average, a grade 4 should be planned on assuming an average healing patient and a good doc. My Hairloss Web Site - Procedure #1: 5229 Grafts with Dr. Rahal Oct, 2010 Procedure #2: 2642 Grafts with Dr. Rahal Aug, 2013 7871 Grafts http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2452 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TakingThePlunge Posted June 6, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2013 I will sometimes go down to a three. At that length, the scar itself is not visible but there is an obvious indented line in the hair that appears at "hat head". This is due to the direction of growth of the hair in and around the scar line. I don't really mind it and it grows out pretty quick anyway. At a 4, my scar line is a non-issue. David - Former Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant I am not a medical professional. All opinions are my own and my advice should not constitute as medical advice. View my Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member greatjob Posted June 6, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2013 I am pretty sure I have seen 2 maybe 3 cases where someone was able to shave down to a 2 guard, I can't remember which cases (when I don't have as much work as I do now I will try and find them), but yeah i would never tell anyone they could shave down to a 2. Like can't decide said and takingtheplunge I think a 4 guard is realistic but there is always a chance it will be better or worse. I myself am about 5 months from my last op and I didn't have the doc remove all of my first scar and I have lower donor density and I can pull off a 4 guard right now. I do however scar really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MAGNUMpi Posted June 6, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2013 Silly question guys but what equals a 1 guard (or grade)? Is each grade/guard a Centimeter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sparky Posted June 6, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2013 grade 4 = half an inch or 12mm grade 3 = 3/8 of an inch or 9mm grade 2 = 1/4 of an inch or 6mm grade 1 = 1/8 of an inch or 3mm My Hairloss Website http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MAGNUMpi Posted June 6, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2013 grade 4 = half an inch or 12mm grade 3 = 3/8 of an inch or 9mm grade 2 = 1/4 of an inch or 6mm grade 1 = 1/8 of an inch or 3mm Thanks Sparky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sparky Posted June 6, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2013 np My Hairloss Website http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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