HairMetal Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I am a NW7 and I suppose I must have around 12,000 - 18,000 grafts remaining. I want to restore my hair to NW2 or NW2.5. Now since from head hair I may only get 5000 grafts are so, I was thinking of throwing in some beard hair as well. So lets say I have 2500 grafts from beard, In total I would have 7500 grafts. We can always leave the crown empty as that is not important. That would be enough grafts to have a density of 40 grafts/cm2 near hairline and little less behind it. Do you think its a good idea. My second concern was that if indeed I use beard hair, will I be able to dye it with normal hair dye, because I have read that beard hair is more difficult to dye. Lastly, as my hair has started to gray now, can you tell me if gray hair is thicker or thinner than colored hair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member 1978matt Posted March 10, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted March 10, 2013 I am a NW7 and I suppose I must have around 12,000 - 18,000 grafts remaining. I want to restore my hair to NW2 or NW2.5. Now since from head hair I may only get 5000 grafts are so, I was thinking of throwing in some beard hair as well. So lets say I have 2500 grafts from beard, In total I would have 7500 grafts. We can always leave the crown empty as that is not important. That would be enough grafts to have a density of 40 grafts/cm2 near hairline and little less behind it. Do you think its a good idea. My second concern was that if indeed I use beard hair, will I be able to dye it with normal hair dye, because I have read that beard hair is more difficult to dye. Lastly, as my hair has started to gray now, can you tell me if gray hair is thicker or thinner than colored hair? I'm no expert but 2500 beard hair seems a bit optimistic. With a stretchy scalp you could get a decent result with 5000 grafts even for a NW7. Depends on hair type, skin tone etc. 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairMetal Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 I'm no expert but 2500 beard hair seems a bit optimistic. With a stretchy scalp you could get a decent result with 5000 grafts even for a NW7. Depends on hair type, skin tone etc. I don't think 2500 beard hair is that optimistic, considering the fact that a man with a dense beard like me can have as much as 40,000 hair in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member james84 Posted March 10, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted March 10, 2013 Mate he is only giving you an opinion and advice, which is what you asked for! Have you spoken to any Docs? Reps? Do you know what your donor is like? nothing wrong with being optimistic but it is still surgery at the end of the day, and using beard hair is not always successful especially with the wrong doc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mickey85 Posted March 10, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted March 10, 2013 40,000 beard hairs is probably hyperbole lol. even someone with a very dense beard probably only has 20,000 max but i could be very wrong. i think you could get respectable results as you arent aiming for a nw0 or 1 hairline. only a few select doctors are good at bodyhair fue though. The only 2 threads you will ever need: Revamped Advantages/Disadvantages of FUE. Myths dispelled. Educate yourself Everything FUE. Manual, motorized, ARTAS, NeoGraft, physician details and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member 1978matt Posted March 10, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted March 10, 2013 I don't think 2500 beard hair is that optimistic, considering the fact that a man with a dense beard like me can have as much as 40,000 hair in it! All I can say is contact Drs Bisanga and Umar. Good luck! 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Glenn Charles Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Would you plan on letting the beard grow in after extracting the 2500 grafts? If not, the area could have a altered appearence that is noticeable to others. Dr. Glenn Charles is a member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Atticus Posted March 11, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted March 11, 2013 I am a NW7 and I suppose I must have around 12,000 - 18,000 grafts remaining. I want to restore my hair to NW2 or NW2.5. Now since from head hair I may only get 5000 grafts are so, I was thinking of throwing in some beard hair as well. So lets say I have 2500 grafts from beard, In total I would have 7500 grafts. We can always leave the crown empty as that is not important. That would be enough grafts to have a density of 40 grafts/cm2 near hairline and little less behind it. Do you think its a good idea. My second concern was that if indeed I use beard hair, will I be able to dye it with normal hair dye, because I have read that beard hair is more difficult to dye. Lastly, as my hair has started to gray now, can you tell me if gray hair is thicker or thinner than colored hair? Send Umar do an online consultation with Dr. Umar. Atticus 600 FUE - 12/07 - Performed by Dr. Umar of Redondo Beach, CA *****300 leg hair FUE implanted 7/12 to the eyebrows - 150 each eyebrow. Performed by Dr. Umar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Garageland Posted March 11, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted March 11, 2013 HairMetal, what you are suggesting is reasonable in terms, that you would be happy with a moderate density to the front and lower density into the mid section and leaving the crown empty. With Norwood 7's though it really depends as to how much you sides have dropped and what your donor like. 5000 head grafts may sound possible but many guys with low donor density it is not achievable. I would take some very clear photos of your situation including pics of your donor and do some online consultations or preferably some in house ones. Research will be the key to seeing what is possible as you may find you just don't have enough grafts to cover your loss and a transplant is just not going to be for you. --- Former patient and representative for Hasson & Wong. Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong are esteemed members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. My opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Hasson & Wong. My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Hasson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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