Dr. John Diep's Impressive FUE Work

[Bill - Seemiller]

I appreciate everyone's input on Dr. Diep's work as presented in these videos. As for the follicular unit extraction video that Mickey presented, there are a few things to consider.

 

For starters, some patients bleed more than others and can't be controlled by the physician. Also, manual FUE tends to look more "brutal" than motorized FUE because there's no choice but to manually score and punch through the skin and tissue that surrounds each follicular unit.

 

Furthermore, this video was presented back in 2008 (4 years ago).

 

As for follicular transection, I don't think we can conclude that this is a concern by watching this video. Many surgeons still perform manual FUE similar to this with minimal transection.

 

That said, I'm still in the process of learning more about his current technique and will be able to share more details with the community as I discuss this further with him.

 

Thanks again for your input.

 

Best wishes,

 

Bill

[Mickey85]

No worries Bill. I'm no expert. I admit that bleeding cannot be controlled by the physician. However I have viewed other physicians perform manual FUE and they do not look anything like this. Most other physicians use a twisting motion(similar to the motorized method) and the skin hardly warps. There is another video uploaded October 30 that shows a similar approach at the 2008 video at 1.20, I'm comparing his manual method here, not the motorized:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8SajMwCwuI

 

Again, I'm no expert. Just making some observations to his technique that I find unorthodox or unconventional. It will ultimately be up to you if you decide whether or not to induct him into this forum.

[hair1978]

I don't understand the bashing on Dr Diep about the bleeding and his techniques.

I can't speak for his work in 2008, but I had no problem when I did FUE with Dr Diep about a year ago. The procedure itself went better than I expected. I had no pain nor any trauma in my donor region. My donor healed up nicely in about a week. And even when I cut my hair very short, there is no visible scars.

 

But like 1978Matt says, it's all about the results at the end of the day.

[Blake Bloxham]

I don't personally think the extractions look overly traumatic.

 

Granted, the patient is bleeding, but this could be due to specific physiology or the very recent injection of the local anesthetic (especially if the anesthetic agent was laced with epinephrine).

[Mickey85]

Just my opinion guys, not gospel I have no personal vendetta or agenda toward or against Dr Diep, just making some observations. He seems like a pretty down to earth Doctor.

[hair70]

My observations:

 

Dr Diep openly shares and shows millions of people on youtube his personal work and results. He has nothing to hide!

 

Who here hasn't learned something from watching his youtube videos?

 

Which other FUE specialists show live / uncut / raw videos of their actual techinques?. . .not professional video productions with beautiful lighting, music, angles, etc. . .

 

How do you compare extraction techniques / bleeding / etc between one doc to the next when only one doctor (dr Diep) has the guts to show you how bloody these things get sometimes?

 

Like others have insinuated. . .THE RESULTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES!!

 

In the end, I feel he doesn't have to show anyone his extractions techniques or how he gets his results. . .they are his very own secrets he has learned and tools he has designed from doing countless precedures during training with one of the best FUE docs and countless more procedures in private practice.

 

Why should he have to share his techniques? Can the lay person really understand or compare or appreciate the complexity of how to extract a healthy follicle and care for it? Punch size, depth of punch, angle of attack, type of anaesthetics and additives used in it, etc. . .and his technicians have years of experience in caring for and cleaning of the follicles also. . .don't forget about that!

 

Dr Diep IS down to earth, highly invested in HT, and choses to show and educate the public and is not afraid to do soo and I am appreciative of that.

 

If he just posted all his pictures his before and after shots or made a beautiful video with flowery music, etc. . .I would guess one could care less what he uses to take out the ones follicles or how much bleeding one had during the procedure, etc. ONE WOULD JUST TRUST HIM and HIS RESULTS and TAKE THE PLUNGE!

 

Sorry for the long post. . .

[Blake Bloxham]

Hair,

 

Very passionate post!

 

However, altogether, I agree with the crux of your argument: Dr. Diep is passionately dedicated to his work.

 

I think his dedication, innovation, and very transparent nature (something crucial in all good science/medicine) make him an excellent addition to our community, and I look forward to all he will contribute to our network in the future.

[scar5]

Dr. Diep's money will be appreciated no doubt, and it helps make the forum a bigger and stronger place and yet, we need the tension and pressure from the other side too.

 

Things can change, too. I remember HLH and a certain doc who got bagged by the moderator. Now it seems he happily accepts the money.

 

Hair70, I don't understand why you are gushing so much? Did you see my post of the dual blade job and Mickey's comments? Does it mean anything?

 

Anyway, I do like seeing the raw results.

 

Small complaint; I do not like reading time and again on his YouTube posts - "why don't you show before and after together?" Only to be told, "try typing in bla bla bla"...and when you do, you get snowed over, confused and give up, because all the results are mixed up. A link to exact job could be easily shown.

 

But you can't have it all. I like hearing Dr. Diep talk and look forward to his contributions.

Edited December 5, 2012 by scar5
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[Bill - Seemiller]

scar5,

 

I assume Hair70 is "gushing so much" for the same reason you are criticizing so much :-).

 

Given your long time involvement on our community, you should know by now that recommending physicians on this community is not about money. In fact, we've turned far more physicians down for potential recommendation privately than we've ever added all because we felt that these surgeons did not meet our high standards.

 

We certainly don't have a problem with constructive criticism and we understand that not everyone will agree with our decision on every physician. However, this community is big on standards and we will only approve surgeons for recommendation who we genuinely believe are performing state of the art hair transplantation.

 

Best wishes,

 

Bill

[Mickey85]

My observations:

 

Dr Diep openly shares and shows millions of people on youtube his personal work and results. He has nothing to hide!

 

Who here hasn't learned something from watching his youtube videos?

 

Which other FUE specialists show live / uncut / raw videos of their actual techinques?. . .not professional video productions with beautiful lighting, music, angles, etc. . .

 

How do you compare extraction techniques / bleeding / etc between one doc to the next when only one doctor (dr Diep) has the guts to show you how bloody these things get sometimes?

 

Like others have insinuated. . .THE RESULTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES!!

 

In the end, I feel he doesn't have to show anyone his extractions techniques or how he gets his results. . .they are his very own secrets he has learned and tools he has designed from doing countless precedures during training with one of the best FUE docs and countless more procedures in private practice.

 

Why should he have to share his techniques? Can the lay person really understand or compare or appreciate the complexity of how to extract a healthy follicle and care for it? Punch size, depth of punch, angle of attack, type of anaesthetics and additives used in it, etc. . .and his technicians have years of experience in caring for and cleaning of the follicles also. . .don't forget about that!

 

Dr Diep IS down to earth, highly invested in HT, and choses to show and educate the public and is not afraid to do soo and I am appreciative of that.

 

If he just posted all his pictures his before and after shots or made a beautiful video with flowery music, etc. . .I would guess one could care less what he uses to take out the ones follicles or how much bleeding one had during the procedure, etc. ONE WOULD JUST TRUST HIM and HIS RESULTS and TAKE THE PLUNGE!

 

Sorry for the long post. . .

 

Many other doctors have shown footage of extraction via fue and fut other than Diep. Dr lorenzo has clear footage(without lighting, angles or music) of him extracting using a manual punch just like Diep although lorenzo doesnt shove to punch into the patients scalp with brute force. I compare both their techniques and the difference is massive.

 

Even the strip extraction using the dual blade.. ok so Diep says it was an isolated incident because he wanted to make a quick video(wonder if the was informed his procedure was going to be rushed). The way the strip was handled was very bad. I do not think h&W would extract a strip in that fashion. Jotronic says it takes them over an hour to extract the strip. Diep did it in about 5, maybe 15 if he used a single blade...

 

Just my opinion anyway.

[hair1978]

Most patients on this forum can be somewhat bias with their own surgeon. So it's natural for patients like me to say good things about Dr Diep. But it would be nice to hear if anyone out there who had a bad experience from Dr Diep.

 

Former bad patients (if any) are the more valid negative responses, not to those here who are nitpicking what they see on the YouTube videos. Unfortunately, most patients with bad results are afraid to speak out.

 

As far as trying to find his before and after results on Youtube, just go to his YouTube page, there are tons of results there. But it would be nice if that page can organize all his videos by certain topics.

[scar5]

But it would be nice to hear if anyone out there who had a bad experience from Dr Diep....Unfortunately, most patients with bad results are afraid to speak out.

 

Indeed, they are hair. And you can see why. It is always changing too. You can't take it for granted.

 

See how daft I am for even mentioning something like the dual blade.

 

Negativity is an ugly thing. Constructive criticism is what we want, as Bill points out. I got ganged up on and thrown off Hair Loss Help forum about three years or four years ago. I am not proud of it, It does me no good to mention in either - but simply I was being honest, but certain Umar shills (boy that is a wolf's lair) and the moderator deemed me as...I dunno...not good for business. It is just soo tricky on the boards..

 

Good luck with you hair journey.

[hair70]

Appreciate all the good info exchange.

 

I am glad there are moderators on this forum moderating all this info and passion.

 

We could only make an educated guess as to what criteria our moderators use to set a doc in that highly recommended category?

 

It is nice it doesn't involve funding / money contributions and probably doesn't involve analysis of youtube videos or professional videos either.

 

Only carefull research and time will tell.

 

Keep up the good moderating and investigating people.

[MAGNUMpi]

 

I got ganged up on and thrown off Hair Loss Help forum about three years or four years ago. I am not proud of it, It does me no good to mention in either - but simply I was being honest, but certain Umar shills (boy that is a wolf's lair) and the moderator deemed me as...I dunno...not good for business. It is just soo tricky on the boards..

I hope that kind of thing doesn't happen here on this forum. I would hope that if I had a bad result I could talk about it freely, and if I ran into problems there would be people here to discuss with. I hope people wouldn't jump all over me if I said something negative if it was honest.

[Blake Bloxham]

I hope that kind of thing doesn't happen here on this forum. I would hope that if I had a bad result I could talk about it freely, and if I ran into problems there would be people here to discuss with. I hope people wouldn't jump all over me if I said something negative if it was honest.

 

We're as fair, open, and honest as possible here, and I guarantee you won't be chastised for legitimately discussing a unacceptable result. In fact, it's likely that myself or one of the other moderators will help you resolve this issue and move forward with quality hair transplant work!

[MAGNUMpi]

Thanks Blake.