Regular Member AnybodyKnowsMe Posted December 27, 2011 Regular Member Share Posted December 27, 2011 (edited) Surely, someone has experienced this since these clinics have been around for a while, at least, in Europe. Edited December 27, 2011 by AnybodyKnowsMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Blake Bloxham Posted December 27, 2011 Senior Member Share Posted December 27, 2011 Hi, Dr. Rassman does an excellent job addressing issues with the scalp micropigmentation (SMP) ink on his SMP site. Here's something he wrote specifically addressing the "blue/green fading" issue: Don’t tattoos or pigment look green or blue?- There is always a potential change int he color of pigment over time. The pigment used for SMP is chosen to match the color and tone of shaved hair underneath ones skin. Despite variation in hair color most patients have a grayish (and greenish) tint after the hair is shaved from the dark roots of the hair showing through the layers of the dermis and epidermis. Much like how blood vessels appear green under the skin, the increased absorption of the red spectrum of light gives rise to this phenomenon explained by the trichromatic theory of color vision (i.e. if you absorb red you will perceive green). The light propagation through human tissue has also been modeled to show the greater decrease of red spectrum remission. In short, there is NO TRUE perception of black when the pigment is deposited beneath the skin. The greater depth of pigment deposit, the greater the potential change in color perception. "Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc" Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member AnybodyKnowsMe Posted December 27, 2011 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 27, 2011 Thanks for the reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member youdontsay Posted August 18, 2012 Regular Member Share Posted August 18, 2012 He doesn't answer the question though. The question wasn't whether it will look blue or green after its done. Rather, the question was whether like every other form of tatttooing known to man the colors will change over time. In addition to this unanswered concern, what if you go grey a decade afterwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Youdontsay and Anybodyknowsme I share your concern and I too would like to hear from someone who's had SMP years ago. Fading and ink discoloration is one of my major concerns, especially for those who have their entire scalp done. Hopefully SMP consumers or SMP practitioners can chime in here. Best wishes, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Blake Bloxham Posted August 18, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted August 18, 2012 This is one of the reasons I feel more comfortable with temporary SMP. If the ink (as youdon'tsay stated) is destined to change color over time, it only seems advantageous to also have it "fade away" with the color changed and be replaced with crisp, new, dark ink (which I believe involves a cycle of anywhere from 6 to 24 months). "Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc" Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Dr. William Lindsey Posted September 13, 2012 Regular Member Share Posted September 13, 2012 I agree. In fact I think that is a huge advantage of what Dr. Feller, myself, and others will have with the placement of inks in the superficial dermis which would last on the order of 1.5-2.5 years. ADDITIONALLY, and I put that in caps as its an important advantage too, placement in the superfical dermis is at a depth of about 0.5-0.9mm, well above root balls of existing and or transplanted hair follicles, saving them from injury from aggressive pigment placing. Dr. Lindsey McLean VA William H. Lindsey, MD, FACS McLean, VA Dr. William Lindsey is a member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member snowman Posted September 19, 2012 Regular Member Share Posted September 19, 2012 so is it a treatment you offer dr lindsey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Dr. William Lindsey Posted September 19, 2012 Regular Member Share Posted September 19, 2012 We will be offering it starting in October almost certainly. Dr. Lindsey McLean VA William H. Lindsey, MD, FACS McLean, VA Dr. William Lindsey is a member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Blake Bloxham Posted September 20, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 20, 2012 We will be offering it starting in October almost certainly. Dr. Lindsey McLean VA Very interesting! Will you be performing the SMP yourself, or hiring a technician? I'm curious as to what the training process/time frame is like. Additionally, are you planning on utilizing temporary or permanent ink? "Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc" Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aaron1234 Posted September 20, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 20, 2012 We will be offering it starting in October almost certainly. Dr. Lindsey McLean VA Holy moly it's catching on! Dr. G: 1,000 grafts (FUT) 2008 Dr. Paul Shapiro: 2,348 grafts (FUT) 2009 ~ 1,999 grafts (FUT) 2011 ~ 300 grafts (Scar Reduction) 2013 Dr. Konior: 771 grafts (FUT) 2015 ~ 558 grafts (FUT) 2017 ~ 1,124 grafts (FUE) 2020 My Hair Transplant Journey with Shapiro Medical Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TakingThePlunge Posted September 20, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted September 20, 2012 Dr. Lindsey, This is very exciting news. I may be visiting you myself in the next year for a SMP consultation. David - Former Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant I am not a medical professional. All opinions are my own and my advice should not constitute as medical advice. View my Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member AnybodyKnowsMe Posted October 14, 2012 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 14, 2012 Dr. Lindsey, What is the current price for treating the full head with this new temporary SMP? Thanks, AKM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member snowman Posted October 14, 2012 Regular Member Share Posted October 14, 2012 i too would like to know what a price would be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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