Senior Member chrisdav Posted October 20, 2011 Senior Member Share Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) Hello everyone I am a newbie to the hair transplant forums but I have been discreetly browsing and reading various posts over a period of time, so I thought there is no better way to start my account with a post regarding my recent hair transplant repair surgery. I live in England and had been planning for a long while to get my hair repaired, due to two poor previous surgeries. The first one was FUT with Norton clinic and 2nd was FUE with Fueclinics with a certain Mr Isherwood being attached to both of these clinics. I cannot stress enough do not touch these clinics with a barge pole and due to being, young, naive and a little impatient at the time, left me with a large hole in my back pocket when I was earning very little money, poor scarring, negligible hair growth and wasted donor hair and even mental scarring as it leaves you questioning is this whole industry brutal and is it possible to achieve the desired result? However, I believed it was more beneficial to take my time to research, analyse and gain a broader understanding of what was required and also to remain positive and upbeat. I stumbled across Spex by chance and had a look at his site. My morale was boosted instantaneously as I had found it so difficult to find a valuable source of information, which after digesting, then led me to the forums. After studying the forums, I decided to check all the doctors listed and within a short period of time, I had condensed my choice down to around five doctors and conjectured that I would have to look further than the UK, mainly to the USA and Canada. Having discovered this valuable source of information, I thought it was imperative that I purchased Spex latest project ‘Maximum hair Minimum Loss’ and things began to be a lot clearer, with everything falling into place methodically after that. Soon after this, I embarked on a consultation in London to see Dr Lindsey and also have a quick chat with Spex. I was thoroughly impressed with the both of the above and in particular, Spex’s hair. I would have never guessed in a million years that he had had a hair transplant and his hair was awesome. After some more thinking and reflecting, I had whittled it down to Dr Feller and Hasson&Wong. The videos were very appealing for Hasson & Wong but due to a combination of rave reviews of patient’s feedback on the forums, visual before and after results and the fact Spex, being a young english man like myself, who had had his hair repaired by Dr Feller, I thought it was the right decision for me. I was originally quoted 1000 grafts for my repair but I decided to pay for 1250 grafts as I had an online consultation which is not the same as a face to face. Having never flown on a plane for longer than 3 hours, I was a little apprehensive at first but I obviously realised what I felt I needed to do. I flew with Virgin Atlantic and it was brilliant, service was impeccable and I had plenty to occupy myself with, watching 3 and half films and only managing to get to 16,000 on who wants to be a millionaire game. J I booked into the Ramada hotel which was ok and was only about 5 minutes from the clinic. On the day of the surgery, I got there early in the morning, about half an hour early to be pleasantly greeted by Dr Feller. After filling out a couple of forms, he looked over my hair and basically confirmed to me everything I actually wanted to hear, with myself feeling very happy with his analysis and reasoning with a definitive plan of action. Within 5 minutes, I was sat in the surgery chair. I had decided on fut as the density was the most important factor to me and this would generate a better yield. Dr Feller is very likeable guy, funny, extremely intelligent and I enjoyed talking to him. I felt welcome and at ease by him and his assistants, who were all very friendly, hardworking and extremely professional, which resulted with the whole operation going very smoothly with no pain. When I actually looked at what he had done properly, I was amazed and highly content. After I had eaten some lunch, he confirmed that he had actually put in 1900 grafts into my head, when in fact; I had only payed for 1250. I must have caught him on a good day or something but I was ever so pleased that I made the trip and cannot speak highly enough of him and his staff. I do owe a large amount of gratitude to Spex and I am forever grateful for his advice as he has always been honest, contactable and willing to help. I am extremely optimistic with the results and cannot wait for the gradual process to commence. If anyone would like to contact me, I am willing to share my experience, as I am just a normal genuine guy who wants to keep his hair. Edited February 21, 2012 by chrisdav 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chrisdav Posted October 22, 2011 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 22, 2011 more pics 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member orlhair1 Posted October 22, 2011 Senior Member Share Posted October 22, 2011 Glad you had such a positive experience......should be a huge improvement for you. Heal well and keep us posted! Surgery - Dr. Ron Shapiro FUT 6/14/11 - 3048 grafts Surgery - Dr. Ron Shapiro FUE 1/28/13 & 1/29/13 - 1513 grafts http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/orlhair1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member richie48 Posted October 23, 2011 Senior Member Share Posted October 23, 2011 Hi Chris Isherwood is a wanker , and the norton clinic has been prosecuted in the past , I'm sure I read on hear years ago about Isherwood changing his company name after being busted for negligence ! I'm glad you had the older shit repaired and you won't go wrong with Dr Feller , I had 2100 crown grafts with him in 2007 and I'm now going back to have the front tweaked . There is a guy at my work who had a ht done last year in the UK and its dolls hair plugs , I don't know where he had it done in the UK , but it just goes to highlight the fact that this type of shit work is still happening . After researching you came to the conclusion you would have to travel , it has always been my opinion that the best ht surgeons are in north america and canada . richie 2100 crown grafts Dr Feller nov 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chrisdav Posted October 23, 2011 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 23, 2011 The company is fueclinics and if you check the website, you will see the great man himself 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member bonkerstonker Posted October 24, 2011 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2011 Hi chris i think this op will change your life now Feller and Spexs are good guys as you know but i have a few questions if thats ok as i'm a Norton patient that seemed to get lucky compared to most others. For me i had fue with Norton which strangely grew reasonably well for the amount of grafts i had but theo left fue grafts under my scalp that he pushed too far into my head and one was even left stuck in my skull, he couldn't be bothered to remove them which resulted in ongoing infection spots. What is your Norton fut scar like? Why did you reuse fueclinics when it's pulled by the same strings as Norton was? Was it theo that did your fue op and did it grow better than your strip surgery? Bonkerstonker! http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=1977 Update I'm now on 12200 Grafts, hair loss has been a thing of my past for years. Also I don't use minoxidil anymore I lost no hair coming off it. Reduced propecia to 1mg every other day. My surgeons were Dr Hasson x 4, Dr Wong x 2 Norton x1 I started losing my hair at 19 in 1999 I started using propecia and minoxidil in 2000 Had 7 hair transplants over 12200 grafts by way of strip but 700 were Fue From Norton in uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chrisdav Posted October 24, 2011 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) Yes, of course, you can ask as many questions as you like. Norton Scar (fut) was short to medium length; however it was fatter and broader. It wasn't great, but I have seen a lot worse and should have a picture somewhere if you would like to see? My mum, who is a nurse, just had a look at my scar from my recent surgery with Dr Feller and said the surgeon has done a very good job, with the old scar now removed. I was young, naive and impatient, which sort of led me to making an irrational decision at the time, but everyone makes mistakes, its how you learn from them that is most important, and I have now. At the time, I didn't have any valid/reliable source of information. I didn't know about meds at the time, didn’t have anyone I could talk to in the UK. Hair surgery is more accepted in the USA, with the UK a bit behind the times with its approach to cosmetic surgery, more frowned upon in the UK. The reason I used it again at the time was because when I went back to them to tell them I was hugely disappointed with the result, Jeremy Isherwood and the other gentlemen (Thomas something who was struck off) never stuck me on medication and his argument was that not being on medication had had also contributed to the final outcome. I went on Proscar, which has stabilised the loss but still needed my hair repairing. Enrolling in college, and retraining, made it difficult for me to obtain enough money for the above, resulting in a delayed second surgery. Then I was shown this revolutionary, new pioneering fue treatment, new surgeon’s bla bla bla and that led to the fue repair of my head by fueclinics An Italian surgeon done my fut, then I had Theo do my fue and both surgeries generated very poor yield and next to nothing growth, which again I can show. If I could turn back time, I would have changed my approach, but fortunately, becoming a bit older, wiser and doing more research has broadened my understanding, improving my decision making. I am fortunate in respect that I still have a considerable amount of native hair left with a good donor supply, which needs to be managed by a considerate, caring and expert surgeon as it is finite. It still does amaze me that the UK is way behind regarding hair restoration in comparison to our cousins in the USA, Canada and maybe Belgium. Edited February 19, 2012 by chrisdav 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member bonkerstonker Posted October 24, 2011 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) Sounds like a nightmare pal. Oh well you're on the home straight now happy days. The other surgeon is Tom Norton the owner of Norton obviously him and Jeremy haven't been in business together for a year or two, fueclinics is Jeremys own company so he must of poached your business from Norton but I would of thought he'd of told you he was separate and blamed norton for your first surgery that's what most patients say they were told. Sometimes I think to my self how lucky I must have been and it was very lucky for norton as I wouldn't of seeked payback in a legal way!! Edited October 24, 2011 by bonkerstonker Bonkerstonker! http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=1977 Update I'm now on 12200 Grafts, hair loss has been a thing of my past for years. Also I don't use minoxidil anymore I lost no hair coming off it. Reduced propecia to 1mg every other day. My surgeons were Dr Hasson x 4, Dr Wong x 2 Norton x1 I started losing my hair at 19 in 1999 I started using propecia and minoxidil in 2000 Had 7 hair transplants over 12200 grafts by way of strip but 700 were Fue From Norton in uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chrisdav Posted October 24, 2011 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2011 It wasn't great but i am sure from the pictures you can see, there are a lot more unfortunate people then myself. I guess you got off lightly, but how come you had 800 then 5300? Bit of a difference there. Is Norton still solvent or they still churning out horror shows? Love to hear from any positive Norton or FUE clients? 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member bonkerstonker Posted October 25, 2011 Senior Member Share Posted October 25, 2011 Tom Norton is still going but doesn't operate him self last i heard. I had diffuse thinning throughout but my crown was completely bald so just had my crown done with 800 and regrew with meds elsewhere and got a clever haircut. With regards to my latest surgery i thought if i'm gonna have a scar i may as well get a big one. Bonkerstonker! http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=1977 Update I'm now on 12200 Grafts, hair loss has been a thing of my past for years. Also I don't use minoxidil anymore I lost no hair coming off it. Reduced propecia to 1mg every other day. My surgeons were Dr Hasson x 4, Dr Wong x 2 Norton x1 I started losing my hair at 19 in 1999 I started using propecia and minoxidil in 2000 Had 7 hair transplants over 12200 grafts by way of strip but 700 were Fue From Norton in uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chrisdav Posted October 25, 2011 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 25, 2011 When did you have your recent surgery with hasson&wong? I was going to shave my hair down soon as i am 10 days post on thursday, what is the minimum grade i could have on the sides to disquise the scar fut scar? 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member bonkerstonker Posted October 25, 2011 Senior Member Share Posted October 25, 2011 Hard to say it depends on shockloss but in a year you can have a 4 maybe 3 if lucky. I shaved full head pre surgery and used a hat to hide scar for 4 months. I'm 7 months post op. Bonkerstonker! http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=1977 Update I'm now on 12200 Grafts, hair loss has been a thing of my past for years. Also I don't use minoxidil anymore I lost no hair coming off it. Reduced propecia to 1mg every other day. My surgeons were Dr Hasson x 4, Dr Wong x 2 Norton x1 I started losing my hair at 19 in 1999 I started using propecia and minoxidil in 2000 Had 7 hair transplants over 12200 grafts by way of strip but 700 were Fue From Norton in uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chrisdav Posted October 28, 2011 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 28, 2011 Before i shaved my hair off, my younger sister took some pictures. I can honestly say though i have never worn hair clips in my hair until yesterday 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member orlhair1 Posted October 28, 2011 Senior Member Share Posted October 28, 2011 Looks really good......that is going to make a huge difference for you! Surgery - Dr. Ron Shapiro FUT 6/14/11 - 3048 grafts Surgery - Dr. Ron Shapiro FUE 1/28/13 & 1/29/13 - 1513 grafts http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/orlhair1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chrisdav Posted October 28, 2011 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 28, 2011 Thanks. Really happy with the outcome and current progess. 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chrisdav Posted October 28, 2011 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 28, 2011 Spex- yeah, the old Norton scar was removed inside the new strip of donor hair taken, then closed up using the trichophytic closure method i believe. Looks much better already, even as early as 10 days. 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Julius Posted November 5, 2011 Senior Member Share Posted November 5, 2011 Maybe Belgium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessie1 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 ChrisDav, Do you just have one strip scar or two? I appreciate that one was removed but that will still leave a small scar. Can't work it out on the pics prob cos I'm using an iPhone at the minute and difficult to see. The work looks clean and your hair looks really healthy in in great shape. The area worked on does appear fairly large. Would be interested to know the size of the area, density and graft breakdown when Dr Feller posts the details to you after the weekend All the best Mate, I can sense your excitement for sure! Jessie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chrisdav Posted November 5, 2011 Author Senior Member Share Posted November 5, 2011 Yes, there is some very good surgeons in belgium but less than the USA and Canada,smaller country. 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chrisdav Posted November 5, 2011 Author Senior Member Share Posted November 5, 2011 I had previously had a strip scar and an fue before, which were bad. All hair transplant surgery leaves scarring, but it can be very minimal if done correctly. It appears larger as my hair line was also brought forward slightly as well, making the area covered look larger and also transplanted within frontal tuft. I don't have the density/grafts breakdown but i can ask. Have a look on the computer screen if you get chance. 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chrisdav Posted December 9, 2011 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) These are my pictures taken from 7 and half weeks post op, taken today. All the early paranoia and worry slowly drained away and looking forward to the 12 week point in a months time. Scar looks fine, better centrally and on the right hand side than left hand side. I don't think i did myself any favours starting weights again around week 6 and after a couple of sessions, i refrained, so may have caused it to be stretched slightly. I think have some shock loss from native hair and previous transplanted hair in some areas, which may or may not return but i have to wait and see in the next few months. It has been a long while since i had my hair this short but open to comments and questions. And as you may see, I am not afraid to reveal the ugly mug J Edited December 9, 2011 by chrisdav 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member orlhair1 Posted December 9, 2011 Senior Member Share Posted December 9, 2011 All looks good. Just a little more growth and your scar will be hidden. It is great to get past that early worry phase.....you will be at 3 months before you know it. Thanks for the update. Surgery - Dr. Ron Shapiro FUT 6/14/11 - 3048 grafts Surgery - Dr. Ron Shapiro FUE 1/28/13 & 1/29/13 - 1513 grafts http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/orlhair1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chrisdav Posted December 9, 2011 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 9, 2011 Thanks for the comments guys. 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NEWHAIRPLEASE Posted December 9, 2011 Senior Member Share Posted December 9, 2011 Looks great Chris! Newhairplease!! Dr Rahal in January 19, 2012:) 4808 FUT grafts- 941 singles, 2809 doubles, 1031 triples, 27 quads My Hairloss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chrisdav Posted January 13, 2012 Author Senior Member Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) Just updating my current situation to the forum. It's a couple of days past 3 months and decided to take some pictures in broad day light as if your hair looks good in bad light, it will look good in any light. I have been keeping my hair short and have been shaving it myself,so it might not be completely even but hopefully when hair starts to grow, i will grow it back longer again. Redness has improved significantly with it only slightly evident now. The scar looks fine to me and becomes less noticable as my hair grows longer, shaved my head bald 3 weeks ago. It will mature as future months elapse. Bit worried about frontal forelock as it was an area which i had native hair but was transplanted into further strengthen. As it stands it is not all there, so it would appear i have shockloss there, in which hopefully it comes back, but if it was on it's way out, there is not much i can do. I was also a bit worried to find that the point where the back of my forelock meets midscalp is a little thinner. It looks as though hairs are there, but they haven't been growing and i noticed this when i shaved my surrounding native hair at day 11. My hair has been long for years now, so i would have never noticed. Some of the transplanted hairs have stayed anchored and are growing and i have noticed new shoots coming in the last couple of days but it is not noticable by these pictures. Open to any comments but don't be too harsh as i am extremely sensitive But i think it will be a long slog and hopefully, i will have a big mop of hair ready to hit the beach in the summer Edited January 13, 2012 by chrisdav 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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