jessie1

Forum members, I know that I said that I wouldn't pipe up again but I'm really not comfortable with Bill's perceived verdict with regards to my conduct on this forum. It is not only assuming, but damaging to my reputation if I was to leave it unchallenged. Now I know that Bill apparently likes me and finds me sincere and genuine and all, but I feel that his attempt NOT to be seen as being over protective of Dr Feller, has done just that I regret to say. I am not comfortable with how its been framed. It's like a closing speech to the jury before they make their verdict. The issue of being properly informed: I communicated with Spex prior to my procedure. Much significance has been put on this and so it should.**Is this the crux of Dr Feller's libel case? I personally think things have been seriously misconstrued, but that's what happens when the normal Doctor/ patient method of communication fails. Ok, I have been entirely consistent on both threads highlighted**by Bill. The most recent being when I was directly asked by a dedicated follower of Dr Feller whether I was calling him a liar. I won't get into the specifics, but I merely deferred the matter to Spex given there are fairly significant differences between their accounts on a certain matter. Again, I am not going to get drawn into the fire fight again. Was there any issue with communication in all this? I think most of us would agree with that. That's why speaking with the Doc personally is which more sensible than speaking with a third party, Spex in this case. The follow up meeting with Spex is an issue which has largely remained unresolved. That's something for Dr Feller and I to discuss. The issue of extortion. I support Bill's comments. This indeed is a very serious matter. Being accused of extortion without merit is just as serious as the criminal act in itself in my opinion. I appeal to those members you are able to see things objectively and impartially. Read my posts if you wish. Do I really come across as a person out to extort somebody? Many of my comments have been complimentary of Dr Feller you will find. I could elaborate, but my defence of this claim may be best served for another day. Perhaps Dr Feller and I can talk this one through constructively. Its all I have ever wanted, as would most others if they found themselves in the same situation as me. Reference to withdrawing my negative comments. Does that make me guilty? Guilty of what? How can such a ridiculous inference be drawn from that. I posted an honest experience, against the odds might I add. It's not difficult to see what I'm talking about when I have been misrepresented so badly just there, even if it's pure speculation. Combine that with the moderators failing to address Dr Feller's outrageous comments towards me and then be effectively ridiculed when stating how violated I felt about them, only to be told that I was 'grossly exaggerating', it's no wonder why there is a strong feeling among forum members of a slightly uneven playing surface. I fully respect that Dr Feller has a right to defend himself but these far reaching comments did intimidate me. Period. Emotional? Yes, but intimidating all the same. There are many reasons why I wished to withdraw my comments, among them: FEAR. I am on unfamiliar ground here and who knows what I could be subjected to if the past is anything to go by.**I have suffered enough and won't be going through the ringer again at the behest of this industry. I have endured a difficult year which extends well beyond the realms of this forum. To compound it, I am 5 days out of a HT and 3500 miles from home in a hotel room with no support. My head is a shed and then I am hit with the prospect of a law suit. Nice one! I haven't been able to reach Dr Feller for months, despite trying. As a knock on effect, any decisions taken by me, however they may perceived,**were taken with the wishes of my partner at the very forefront of my mind this time. I have side lined her for too long, allowing my experiences with the industry to consume me. I take no shame in saying that 'I' is now 'we' . She is in complete bits. Try reassuring your partner about legal retoric and the potential misery and anxiety associated with it and get the go ahead the crack on and fight it all the way. She just wants to see me smiling again.**Am I really that off the wall by prioritising what matters most to me? I will not delete my comments despite my obvious hightened emotion. I concede that it was premature but done in good faith to all parties concerned. If I thought for one minute that the managing publisher would have rationalised this as a possible guilty plea then I would have stuck to my guns. Cowardly? Yes I see the merit in that to a certain extent but I have given you an insight on a take it or leave it basis. I have made contact with Dr Feller and his attorney and they have not been in touch. I am willing to iron this out but we can not change the past can we. I still feel like i was not afforded a completed service despite our discrepancies. I will not water down my experience with Dr Feller but there may be some common ground to work with. So I extend my offer again to Dr Feller to end this circus and put this matter to bed. It should have been dealt with ages ago. What should then follow is a closing statement which is fair and impartial to all parties involved. I think the members of this forum also deserve that bearing in mind much of this had been brought into this domain. It would also save a whole lot of speculation. Jessie

Dr Feller is proposing to sue me for comments posted on the HTN. This is my final address to this forum in compliance with legal demands placed on me. Ladies and Gentlemen of this forum, I am a former patient of Dr Feller, Feller Medical, New York, USA having underwent a 1000 graft FUE procedure to my hairline in September 2010. Yesterday I was sent a letter by Dr Feller's attorney proposing legal action against me in respect of alleged libellous comments that I apparently made against Dr Feller when I shared my experience with Feller Medical some time ago. The thread concerned turned into a free for all in which tempers flared on all sides before it was eventually closed by Bill, the managing publisher. It is not necessary to publish the whole letter as the content is straight forward. Here is a brief quotation, 'The remarks that you published and disseminated pertaining to Dr. Feller were libelous per se.' The letter goes onto say that if I do not ' immediately cease and desist from making such false and defamatory publications' and 'retract' the false comments that I allegedly made on this very forum, in a 'meaning and significant manner', legal action will be taken against me as a result of the damages suffered by Dr Feller. Legal action will commence in the New York Courts and under their jurisdiction despite my residency in the UK. I will receive no further notice from Dr Feller's legal team therefore I only get one shot to get this sorted. I am currently in a hotel in Canada, recovering from my 4th hairline repair procedure and only have iPhone access and unable to send private messages. I am not prepared to leave this matter unaddressed until I arrive back in the UK because by then it may be too late. I also think that a prompt response will show Dr Feller and his legal team how serious I am taking this matter. I am not a foolish man and do not welcome law suits or relish the thought of a legal wrangle. To the contrary, I feel very frightened and vulnerable right now, yet resolute and determined to deal with this for the sake of my family and myself. All I did was post an honest account of my experience. There was never any intention to defame Dr Feller or trash his good character. To the best of my knowledge, I have been restrained and respectful towards Dr Feller and Spex throughout, conducting myself appropriately even when I was subjected to some outrageous defamatory attacks on my character which I had little choice but to defend. Dr Feller accused me of criminal behaviour which I am not guilty of and I simply had to refute this order to protect and honour my own good character, something which I feel has suffered on this forum as a consequence of some of the comments made by a person of such a high standing in the medical profession and society. Being a humble ' Average Joe', the hurtful comments have not lessened the blow and I can not help but feel violated. I am not attributing this solely to Dr Feller, who should enjoy the same freedom of expression privileges as everyone else. I have always acted in the full belief that any comments in respect of my experience with Dr Feller were true and honest and in accorandance with the terms of service on this site. I have never received formal warnings from Bill or the other moderators about my behaviour. I have simply shared my experience, offering something back to this forum which prides itself on the free flow of information. What follows is a brief public statement, without benefit of legal advice might I add, to comply with Dr Feller's attorney and hopefully put an end to this so I can put this chapter in my life firmly behind me. I make this statement of my own free will and have not been coerced or subdued into making it by Dr Feller or anybody else. I fully retract any negative statement made by myself in respect of my experience with Dr Feller. I never intended to malign his reputation or business. I also wish to go further than this and extend this to Spex also who has a business interest with Dr Feller. Not only should any negative statements be retracted, they should be simply removed from public view. Editing them would misrepresent my views and would draw my questions than answers, which would prolong this ordeal for Dr Feller, something which neither of us want. I give the forum administrators my blessing to go ahead and do this. Although I admit no legal liability by making these comments, I have carefully considered my response overnight and feel that my actions are in full compliance with what has been asked of me. I apologise if I have offended any forum member or brought this forum into disrepute by reporting my experience. The comments that I post regularly in support of Dr Feller's work can stand with his permission. These comments are testament to the fact that I have never set out to deter anybody from using Dr Feller's services and that I remain impartial, objective and respectful of his talents, despite our obvious disparities. Finally, as a means of ensuring continued compliance, and going further than what has been asked of me I feel, I would like to voluntarily deactivate my membership of this forum. This would provide Dr Feller with reassurance that he can go about his business unhindered, whilst relinquishing my fears about any future legal action from Dr Feller. These comments are made with sincerity and meaningfulness and should not be misconstrued otherwise. I would only respectfully ask for 3 things. I will abide by any decision taken by Bill, the managing publisher of this forum. Firstly, to allow my website to stand. I plan to improve this and use it to report my progress on my last HT with coalition doctor,**Dr Rahal. The HT which many forum members have expressed their well wishes regardless of their views on my experience with Dr Feller. Secondly, that due to my absence on the forum and thereby not being in a position to defend myself, that no defamatory remarks are levelled at me. I welcome free discussion but I will object to unwarranted and unjustified attacks on my character. Finally, Bill, that you continue to help me obtain a copy of my legal disclaimer that I have been requesting from Feller Medical for 2 months, with your help. This is something that, ironically, is essential that I have in my possession for legal reasons. You have already reported back to me on this and informed me that I have a legal right to possess this and that Dr Feller has now found it. I would also like to take my final opportunity to invite Dr Feller and Spex to respond to this statement with the added assurance that I will not respond. They will therefore have the final say. I would only respectfully ask that nothing defamatory or untrue is written. Take care everybody and I wish you all every success in your personal endeavours in the future. God Bless, Jessie.

Yes there has been some growth but respectfully speaking, I really wouldn't be happy if I was in your position. I think you have had consistent responses too so far. I hope things get resolved for you. What is your doctor doing NOW to reassure you? All the best, Jessie

Yes I understand, the doc should be aware of the product. I am right in thinking that they offer the product and financing was discussed. No amount of words are going to change what's happened regardless of blame. The fact that you are not going out on a huge blame attack is a credit to you All the best for the future. Jessie

Mate, You must be in turmoil, I can not imagine the emotional rollercoaster ride that you have been on here. Others may disagree, but from the eyes of a lay person/ average Joe, it's not your fault. The doc should have disclosed his conditions to the finance deal well before the day of surgery. There is a lesson to be learned here. Doctors hit you with a double figure disclaimer on the day of your surgery as a matter if course, and even more small print if opting to go with finance. All this should be sorted well in advance. The finance is just as important. Seems like there was plenty if time for the doc to explain their finance terms well in advance but failed to do it. I would be just as distraught as you. You have lost transport fees. Did you have to forfeit a deposit? The doc will also have lost out here and all for 15 %? What was the cost of your surgery and what was the intended plan. Gutted for you...... Jessie

ChrisDav, Do you just have one strip scar or two? I appreciate that one was removed but that will still leave a small scar. Can't work it out on the pics prob cos I'm using an iPhone at the minute and difficult to see. The work looks clean and your hair looks really healthy in in great shape. The area worked on does appear fairly large. Would be interested to know the size of the area, density and graft breakdown when Dr Feller posts the details to you after the weekend All the best Mate, I can sense your excitement for sure! Jessie

Guys, This is well off the wall I know but I wanted to throw this one out there.... Could a facial toner be an innovative way off helping out with post op recovery and growth. This is my experience: My girlfriend uses a facial toning device which cost her about ?150 ($ 235). It sends out electric impulses and can be adjusted to different intensities. The device claims not only to tone muscles within the face, neck and forehead, but also enhance the flow of blood supply to the specific area being treated. I'm not going to get too deep into the science because I don't want to be seen as endorsing it. I used this device after by last op with Feller and experienced some good early growth. I simply put the device on a low setting and worked it around the top of my forehead and temples. I could definitely feel an increase in blood supply and it's quite a relaxing and comfortable device to use. Anyway, will be using it this time around for the exact same reason having seen what I believe to be benefits of doing so last time around. Good early growth through scar tissue? Hmmm....... I appreciate there is no scientific rationale behind this other than increasing blood supply to the recipient area, which of course may be beneficial, before anybody bites my head off! I wil make reference to this technique in my post op review and progress which I will sort shortly. Jessie

Definite improvement and a consideration later down the line. Thanks for bringing the case to the forum. Steve at BHR is excellent and im sure he helped you out with support and advice. Jessie

Sean, It's looking great mate. You have the added reassurance of knowing that Rahal and his team will look after you and address concerns. Im definitely going to have to factor in shockloss this time too: larger procedure, scar tissue, 4 HTs in four years and planting between native hair. GULP! The support is there mate every step of the way. Just a quick tip: Sean you are extra meticulous and thorough, excellent qualities to possess, but I would try not to overthink it at this point mate. Not easy advice to take on board but the journey in itself isn't an easy one. All the best Jessie

Do Doctors endorse the use of minox following a HT. It's never formed part of my debrief or follow up. Is it seen as complimentary to post op recovery (past the 2 week period or whatever) Jessie

Bisanga in Europe is the best choice near to home if travel is a factor. I have consulted personally with him and was impressed. Also seen an example of his work in the flesh which was very impressive. In terms of the rest of the world: Rahal. He is the top of the profession at the minute with either FUE or FUT. There is also a discount for overseas patients. Presume nothing, question everything! Don't assume that the most spoken about or popular Doctors on this site are necessarily the best. Bisanga is not a coalition Doc yet his work is outstanding. The UK has no close competitors bar Farjo but according to my research there are definitely better. Another factor you need to carefully consider. What is the Doctor's reputation like when the chips are down. I'm talking about aftercare. It's a quality that should be judged along side skill and expertise. Again, don't just look at the positive results, search for negative experiences and be intrusive. Post your pics and get more forum support. Your personal situation is very much part of choosing the right doc. Some Docs specialise in certain areas ie. Repair, hairline, conservative- aggressive approaches. Whatever your needs, your short list would be extremely short without Bisanga or Rahal on it. Good luck Dr Feller Sept 2010: 1000 FUE 2 UK strips: 2007 and 2009

Theonebart, I will credit you with a sensible answer bearing in mind the lengths you have gone to. If ya muckin me about I will come looking for a young looking dude with a great healthy head oh hair! Just in case that doesn't answer your question, you look in good shape. I do not detect anything of concern. Photos don't always show the real deal though so if you are that concerned keep your eye on it and address any change by having it diagnosed. Hope that helps, Jessie

Whatever it is it looked good.... But if this is purporting to be a HT then it doesn't cut it. It could be a HT with clever products and extra helpings of concealer but it's not an unaided result in my opinion. The sad fact is, there's many pics posted like this within the industry which give the unsuspecting patient unrealistic expectations. Certain showcase patients on websites should be looked at with an open mind too. Jessie

Spanker, I think my meds endeavour has just been as hap hazard as my approach to HTs. I am a NW 2 and like you, thinning in the first 2 cms, 3 if I'm being hyper critical (but realistic). I started on kirkland minox about 3.5 years ago on my hairline only. I found it annoying and clumsy to apply. I stuck with it for 6 months and saw no improvement and no major shedding but I would say that if I was to get off the fence and give you it straight, my hairline appeared slightly thinner. Was that down to the meds or its ineffectiveness and the gradual erosion of the hairline continuing, probably the latter. Two and a half years ago I went to the Belgravia Centre in London where I received some advice from a lady who could barely string a sentence together in English let alone ply me with her expert knowledge. But out of desperation I started on propecia and their special patented potion of minox: extra strength 12.5 %. After giving the minox a whirl for 6 months I binned it. Was this too soon to make an informed judgement? Not sure. However my scalp was dry, the hair appeared dry in the hairline and seemed to erode, but this time quite aggressively. But I stayed with the fin and take it to this day. 2.5 years on and I feel that it is over rated. I stay on it out of fear of the potential consequences from withdrawal. But in-between all that I had 2 bad UK hairline HTs. I'm also in a highly demanding and stressful job. If you can work all that out then you are a genius mate. Like I say, too many variables to give an accurate appraisal. My advice to you and anybody out there would be to start on a steady regimen and keep things consistent. Adding, chopping and changing just creates confusion and anxiety. I am yet to see anybody showcasing good minox results to the hairline. I'm not criticising it or anybody that uses it. Indeed, after my last HT which I am just days out of, I may explore minox and other drugs again more closely in the hope of finding a life long manageable routine. Biotin will feature on my list as it prob does nat all to retain or replenish but may improve quality, the next best substitute! Are you confused, well I tried mate! Jessie

Orangehair, Nice early growth. I love the way T & D present their work: very professional. Or is that down to you, makes no odds... Do you have any pre op prior to planting? Any donor scar pics? I know I'm low on the NW scale but I wish I had this thick whispy type hair opposed to coarse flat hair, it makes for a better result in my opinion. Really pleased for this guy, still got another year on the clock to mature through: excellent. Jessie