Seanessy Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 I've been losing my hair for many years now. Especially in the crown area and have particularly worried about the problem. After searching on Google I discovered the DHI Medical Group in Greece. Early this year I took a vacation in Greece and Athens, so that I could meet Mr. Giotis. Mr. Giotis is the self proclaimed godfather of hair restoration. Naturally any individual working within this field for over 30 years should be more than competent and overly qualified to review my lowly crown and thinning region. I was received and reviewed by a member of the DHI staff who diagnosed my situation (I would need 1500 hairs). After several consultations, and finally payment the procedure began. Whilst the procedure itself was not uncomfortable and the doctor removed the precise number of hairs that was agreed with DHI Medical and myself, and placed these within the thinning area. The procedure itself was time consuming. When the procedure was finished, Mr. Giotis appeared and told me that I had to go back in and receive even more hairs. "He needs at least 1000 more" said Giotis. The doctor was uncertain and said that our agreement was for 1500. "No", said Giotis, "he needs at least another 1000 hairs there". So the doctor did as he was told and had to remove more hairs and transplant more hairs into the thinning crown. I was really disappointed as this meant more anaesthesia and more hair removal and more anaesthesia and more hair transplantation. The doctor was concerned that my scalp would not hold and retain such a large transplant in such a small region but was obliged to do as Giotis said. It's now been 10 months. Only little hairs have grown through in the region. The official diagnosis is that there's not enough oxygen and blood flow to the hairs because there are too many hair transplanted in such a small so all have failed. I have paid my fees. And also had to pay for the additional 1000 hairs which DHI Medical and Mr. Giotis said were needed. I feel I have been totally fooled and that DHI Medical has exploited my situation and Mr. Giotis did so by telling the doctor that I needed an additional 1000 hair transplants. All I can do is inform people of my own experiences with DHI Medical and all I can advise people to do is never trust Mr. Giotis advice, as it is quite clearly not in the interests of the patient but of his wallet. If anyone else has a similar experience with DHI Medical then please do share this. I fear that I am not the only person out there who has been cheated by DHI Medical. And regarding my payments, I've still not received any in return or refund in part or whole despite my many calls, letters, and mails to DHI. It seems DHI Medical are very concerned about maximizing the amount of money from a patient but strangely unconcerned about patient's, happiness, or returning their fees despite the guarantees made upon the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chucky Posted December 15, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted December 15, 2007 hi seanessy i feel your pain and dissapointment with dhi. i too went there 3 years ago and got 1043 fue hairs apparantly,i would say i was lucky if 100 grew. the day after my ht they rushed me to the bank to verify my travellers cheques then shipped myself to the airport 6 hours early to get rid of me. i never received any photos from them as they said the camera broke and when i questioned my ht they blocked my emails and when i rang them they hung up once they knew it was me. they are a bunch of crooks and lorraine lambert is a total shill.they read these boards and post under an alias(shabba on here and shln who i exposed). this is to dhi ,i will be in london on a regular basis shortly and i am personally going to gatecrash one of your seminars/sales pitches and truly expose you for the unethical,money grabing crooks you are. 2 x strip ht`s with Norton,very poor results 1 x fue ht with DHI,very poor result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest josh - b Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 seannessy, sorry to hear about your bad experience. First of all you say they initally put in 1500 hairs. Are you sure it wasn't 1500 grafts? Also, this mr giotis coming in at the end of a procedure ordering the doctor to remove a further 1000 hairs(grafts?) sounds very unusual. Did he take the sutures or staples out and cut out another strip? Can u post before and after pictures which would help us evaluate your situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chucky Posted December 15, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted December 15, 2007 josh they only do fue now,no strip and they charge by the hair so if a single hair follicle costs say 5 euro`s,you pay 5 euro`s for that hair. if a follicle contains 4 hairs you pay 20 euro`s for that follicle to be placed. so 1500 hairs could be 900 grafts bunch of robbing crooks 2 x strip ht`s with Norton,very poor results 1 x fue ht with DHI,very poor result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Seanessy, Welcome to our forum community. I am really sorry to hear about your experience with DHI. In my opinion, it would be a good idea to contact the clinic to attempt to resolve this issue. But there is good news. Being that you only had one surgery with probably about 2500 hairs (as opposed to follicular unit grafts), you should still have a good amount of donor hair left for another hair transplant with a quality hair restoration physician. If there is anything I can do for you personally, don't hesitate to send me a private message. Best wishes, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chucky Posted December 16, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted December 16, 2007 hi Bill mr giotis is the founder of dhi and as far as i`m aware is not a dr but i may be wrong. he is also a member of the ishrs which doesn`t really stand for much in my opinion. seanessy has contacted dhi like i did numerous times and you are met with lies and deceipt from them as once they`ve got your money patient care goes out the window. sorry for ranting on about this place but they are criminals in my opinion who mess peoples lives up. take a peek at their website,its full of how fantastic they are,world leaders,dogs bollocks but in reality its all bulls**t. seanessy i do hope you still have plenty of donor hair left and now you`ve found this forum you can make a well educated choice for your next surgery if this is the way you want to go. take care 2 x strip ht`s with Norton,very poor results 1 x fue ht with DHI,very poor result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member wylie Posted December 16, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted December 16, 2007 Sheesh, maybe there should be a sub forum for "Clinics pretending to be reputable and talented", you could start with this guy. Sorry to hear about your experience, now you begin your journey trying to fix your previous work, you will find this forum a good resource for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanessy Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 Hi guys. Firstly, thank you for all your feedback and support. I must admit that I do feel low. Bill, many thanks for being so supportive. I will certainly be looking for another doctor to see if it is possible to do something with my remainin donor hair. And chucky...many thanks my friend. Now we are at least 2 who have been cheated by this Giotis. You are right chucky, Giotis is not a doctor. Either in the qualified, or in the real sense of the term. He's is simply a self proclaimed guru in the field of FUE techniques, but it's clear that what is spoken is not true. The benefits of FUE over grafts seem so obvious to me. No scaring, now healing time etc., But it seems I really met an individual who's sole intention is to pray on the insecurities of people like me who are now so sensitive to my thinning crown that in all honesty I am more or less willing to try anything. And of course when you meet a man like Giotis who tells you his track record, who overrules his doctors, you get a true sense that you are being given a true personal treatment by the god father of FUE. Only to realize that it seems and of course I'm also thinking about your experience as well chucky, that DHI Medical is really nothing more than a cover for money grabbing scheme. I paid over 80.000 dollars for my treatment, and I know that it might not seem alot but it is alot to me. In the first meetings everyone was so friendly. So helpful and it seemed sympathetic with my situation, but just as you chucky, the first port of call for Mr. Giotis after I agreed to the procedure was money. I feel so stupid now. I've never really been so deliberately "taken in" as I have been with Mr. Giotis, and DHI Medical. But I will follow your advice Bill, I'm not ready to give up and just surrender to my condition and I'll report back after I've consulted a physician. Thanks again guys for all your support. I have been so down these past months, and now I now I am not alone in this which means so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member maxzor Posted December 17, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted December 17, 2007 Hi Seanessy, I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience. I hope you mean 8000 dollars instead of 80.000!? Anyway I am assuming that you are from Europe. In the US there are far more surgeons with a proven track record of producing great results. However there are also a few surgeons from europe that are recommended on this site. I am from Europe and had surgery in Turkey, Istanbul at the Transmed clinic. I am 4 months post op now and have already had a lot of positive comments and feedback on my HT. In such a short time I have gained a lot of self confidence. This site can help you educate yourself and there a lot of guys who can give you valuable advice. I hope in this way you can make the best choice for your hairloss situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chucky Posted December 17, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted December 17, 2007 hi seanessy there are numerous guys on various forums who`ve had the misfortune to go to dhi, i`m glad your feeling a bit better now and looking forward.i too am looking forward to a more positive future but the feeling of being done over never really goes away especially when i hear repeat experiences like yours. hi wylie the problem with these are they are good at marketing and all the extras like members of this and that organisation which fool you into thinking it stands for something. hi maxzor i hope your results are great but i couldn`t find any pictures.i haven`t done any research on transmed,just a look at their website which looks good.grow well. 2 x strip ht`s with Norton,very poor results 1 x fue ht with DHI,very poor result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Seanessy, Did you say you paid over $80,000 for your procedure? If that is correct, you paid $32 per hair if you received 2500 "hairs". Let me tell you though...you should NOT feel stupid. Many others have been in your shoes and it's not your fault. You are among friends here. Take your time and research all your options before jumping in to take the plunge for a second procedure. Best wishes, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member wylie Posted December 17, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted December 17, 2007 Originally posted by chucky:hi wylie the problem with these are they are good at marketing and all the extras like members of this and that organisation which fool you into thinking it stands for something. All the more reason to me to start a "red flag" forum of hacks with scissors who call themselves surgeons. Really these guys should not be in business. As long as more than ONE person says so (and this thread has that!) then I wouldnt think twice of steering clear of the place. (And hindsight is always 20/20) I mean, I hate to hear these stories at the end of 2007 when it dont have to happen to anyone. As far as Greece is concerned, it sounds like the entire country does not have a physician capable of doing this kind of surgery competently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chucky Posted December 18, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted December 18, 2007 hi wylie the problem with starting a red flag forum is that not everyone is going to agree certain drs or clinics should be in there. someone gets a bad result say 1 year ago,posts his dissatisfaction but the dr gets better at hts and patient who has transplant 6 months ago posts a positive experience. i think you wuold have to limit it to the ones who are consistently producing bad results and maybe have coalition docs posting there repair cases in there and naming drs. 2 x strip ht`s with Norton,very poor results 1 x fue ht with DHI,very poor result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andylondon26 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Hi there, I had a 15072 grafts with DHI last June and i was more than happy with my procedure. Yeah i was shit scared before i went, but i was put at ease throughout, stayed in a lovely hotel and met with Lorraine and Mr Giotis, who came in and shook my hand and introduced me - something i thought very personable considering he has a company to run. My results are still coming through however the results are great. I never went out there thinking i was going to achieve a full head of hair like when i was 18, i had realistic expectations. Even after 8 months - the results are great - ive gone from looking in the mirror on a daily basis and worrying - to just getting on with life - and not to have it hanging over me. I am going to post my pics on here shortly to show you the results. Its a shame you feel like this Seanessy as i have the complete opposite views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andylondon26 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 opps... Spot the mistake! just realised an error... i never had 15072 [now that would take a long time!] i actually had 1572 done. Funny how you remember how many to the last number you have done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member balody Posted February 6, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted February 6, 2008 welcome andy, i think we all realised the mistake . im glad you had a good experience with dhi and i for one look forward to seeing the work performed by this clinic. forgive me ,but is mr giotis the surgeon or the owner of the clinic?and if so did he perform the surgery? 2381 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2201 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2000+ fut Dr Bessam Farjo My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Bessam Farjo challenge the unchallenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest josh - b Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 andylondon, Congratulations as u are the first person i have seen here that is happy with their dhi result. I can't wait to see those pictures. Actually, can u post them now as sometimes people come on here giving a glowing reference to a sub par clinic, promising pics to follow and are never heard from again. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 andy, Congratulations on your recent hair transplant surgery with DHI. I'm pleased to hear that you have had a positive experience. I hope you will take the time to share your surgical experience and post photos. Happy growing! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andylondon26 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Bill, i recently posted my message re dhi and my experience of which i am more than pleased. I had 1572 hairs into the temples, my only regret is that i never had more done! another 1500 and i will be more than happy with my overcoming my hairloss. pls have a look at the pics. andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andylondon26 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 8 months after procedure at DHI. i cannot upload more than 1 pic at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andylondon26 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Face and Hair image - Feb 08. More than happy with my results! 1572 - DHI Greece, 1st procedure: Jun 07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andylondon26 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Feb 08 - hair and face shot. 8 months post procedure - 1572 with DHI in Greece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member balody Posted February 20, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted February 20, 2008 hi andy,congratulations on your result! have you any better detailed pics ie top down,befores and afters?i only say this as dhi have a bad rep on here and the pics you posted are not going to cut it with most of the members. 2381 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2201 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2000+ fut Dr Bessam Farjo My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Bessam Farjo challenge the unchallenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chucky Posted February 20, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted February 20, 2008 Originally posted by andylondon26:Bill, i recently posted my message re dhi and my experience of which i am more than pleased. I had 1572 hairs into the temples, my only regret is that i never had more done! another 1500 and i will be more than happy with my overcoming my hairloss. pls have a look at the pics. andy Hi Andy You cant really judge much by your photos especially the last two. You say you had 1572 hairs.Was this hairs or grafts as stated in your first post. As you also say you could have done with another 1500,why did you not get more,was this due to your finances. Did they explain to you what level of density/cover you would get with that many hairs/grafts. You also say Its a shame you feel like this Seanessy as i have the complete opposite views. Why would he say anything different after having his poor experience with dhi Anyway i`m glad you are happy with your results so far. 2 x strip ht`s with Norton,very poor results 1 x fue ht with DHI,very poor result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 andy, I am glad that you are happy with your experience. The hairline picture does seem to show an overall improvement. If you have additional pictures of the top of the head or at a 45% angle, this would also be helpful. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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