Senior Member Neptune Posted October 21, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted October 21, 2007 Don't get me wrong. No complaints about any of the new hair I have. Just a question. In much of my new growth, I have a bunch of curly whiter hairs that don't straighten no matter how much "defrizzer" or straightening gel I put on. I knew to expect this but am curious from those who have experienced something similar: When should these hairs start to straighten out? I'm 7 months out and you can see my photos in the photo album section. Any advice you guys have would be greatly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted October 21, 2007 Moderators Share Posted October 21, 2007 It's normal for transplanted hair to grow in somewhat frizzy. I don't know if that happens to everyone though. As it grows out and you get a few hair cuts it will slowly soften up. I'd say in the 12 to 18 month range is where I used to see the frizzyness go away. Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NervousNelly Posted October 21, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted October 21, 2007 As you stated this is unfortunately normal. Not sure about why they are whiter with you unless you mean when they first come in? You might have to wait upwards of 18 months in some cases but more than likely things will start to calm down at about the 1 year timeframe. I would recommend keeping the hair on the shorter side until you get to the point where the frizziness is diminishing. NN NN Dr.Cole,1989. ??graftcount Dr. Ron Shapiro. Aug., 2007 Total graft count 2862 Total hairs 5495 1hairs--916 2hairs--1349 3hairs--507 4hairs--90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted October 21, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted October 21, 2007 Yup, The hairs grow in a bit coarse which can sometimes make the HT seem a bit un natural but don't lose hope. It will blend in nicely as the hair grows in..Yes, it can take about 10 months or so. JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Time to do something Posted November 1, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 1, 2007 Wow! Great question. My hair is just starting to grow in from my HT in July and they seem to be coming in somewhat curly which I thought was very odd considering my hair is really straight. Now I know this is a temporary thing. NW5 Dr. Epstein July 4, 2007 2520 grafts 471 one hair grafts 1540 two hair grafts 505 three hair grafts 5070 Total hair count Dr. Epstein August 4, 2008 2384 grafts 870 one hair grafts 1150 two hair grafts 364 three and four hair grafts 4262 Total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro November 18, 2009 1896 grafts 760 one hair grafts 852 two hair grafts 288 three hair grafts 46 four hair grafts 3362 total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro July 1, 2011 1191 grafts 447 one hair grafts 580 two hair grafts 150 three hair grafts 14 four hair grafts 2113 total hair count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member pushing 40 Posted November 4, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 4, 2007 Exact same thing here; I am at 7 months and it came in kind of kinky / frizzy. I also have VERY straight hair so there is a line where the old straight hair and new kinky hair comes together. Annoying but oh well. I'll give it time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Abbie Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Research has shown that frizzy transplanted hair relates back to the technicians who may have over manipulated the grafts while placing. The reason that it takes up to 18 months to settle down is the transplanted hair needs to go through a full growth cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member scooping around Posted November 6, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 6, 2007 Abbie, you might be right. I've noticed that when the grafts first shed few days after the HT, the hair come out straight with a slight bent of angle on the ends grafted into the scalp. Maybe that's what you meant by "over manipulating" the grafts while they're placed at the angle to match the native hair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Abbie Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I meant that when the technicians were putting the grafts in...they were either grasping the graft by the follicle, thereby crushing the follicle, smashing the graft into the site with a less than gentle touch and/or re-adjusting the graft into the site several times due to popping and bleeding. All of these scenarios or even one could be the reason for a frizzy result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Anonymous Posted November 18, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 18, 2007 I'm at 10 months, and my hair almost feels the same as my natural hair. I'm sure there's more thickening and softening to come but the frizziness look and feel of it is almost gone. Regimen: 5% Minoxidil twice a day (morning and night) on front hairline, Proscar (broken into 5 pieces) one piece every night. MSM 1000 Mg, Zinc 30 Mg, Vitamin E, Multi-Vitamin. Baby Shampoo for showering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted November 18, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 18, 2007 10 -14 all of the hair is gernerally normal again. at 14 months my hair was really full and healthy JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dr. Ricardo Mejia Posted November 18, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 18, 2007 Post Hair transplantation frizziness and kinkiness is rare. Usually it is only a few grafts that are seen but generally not a significant portion of the hair. As was posted, careful handling of the grafts to avoid crushing the follicle is essential to avoiding this problem. YOu may notice some improvement. However, there are a few grafts that will persist with some kinkiness. Ricardo Mejia MD Ricardo Mejia MD, FAAD Jupiter FL Hair Transplant Network recommended physician; photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Dr. Mejia, It's obvious you are a physician and therefore have the credentials to know your stuff however, from my experience in speaking to countless patients over the years, it is not rare and cannot be avoided by the careful handling of the grafts. Careful handling of the grafts IS essential for growth yield. But because transplanted hair starts growing as thin fine hairs and take up to 18 months to mature, they can often be of a different texture especially between 4-9 months which causes frizziness/kinkiness. As the hair matures it will soften and end up just as the texture of natural hair. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nobuzz4me Posted November 19, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 19, 2007 I agree with Bill, I think the frizziness is more common than rare. It is a scary thought to think techs are crushing grafts while handling them. Maybe this is a thought for another thread but: Just before my last HT, I asked my Doc if it was OK to "tip" the techs. He said it was not neccesary but my feeling was that they would give those grafts of mine extra care!! Top clinics have top techs I am sure. I submit that there are top techs out there who should be recognized somehow. Perhaps each Doctor in the coalition could nominate one from each office. Might be good motivation for all techs to step up their game. What do you all think?? NoBuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dr. Ricardo Mejia Posted November 19, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 19, 2007 Bill: I am referring more to hairs that develop into a curly q or cork screw appearance rather than the the frizziness. Nice job moderating! Kudos! Ricardo Mejia MD, FAAD Jupiter FL Hair Transplant Network recommended physician; photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Dr. Mejia, Thank you for the clarification. That makes sense. I would agree that would be rare - in fact, I am not sure I've ever heard about a case like that - which is a good thing . Since you are a hair restoration physician, I am surprised that I haven't seen any of your work posted. Feel free to post some of your before, immediately post op, after pictures and hair transplant technical details in the photo section of our community if you are willing. Thanks for the props! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dr. Ricardo Mejia Posted November 19, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 19, 2007 Bill: I unfortunately have not dedicated the time to the marketing and posting. Pat has been telling me that for months and invited me to be more of an active participant in the forums. I am trying to follow-up with his suggestion. I do invite you down to Jupiter to visit our clinic and see for yourself the high quality of work we do here. I will try to have some photos for you. Ricardo Mejia MD, FAAD Jupiter FL Hair Transplant Network recommended physician; photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Dr. Mejia, We are pleased to have you become more involved in our network. At this time, I personally would probably not be able to come down to visit you due to my involvement here and my other current full time job - however, perhaps in the future. Have you invited Pat to your clinic? I do also hope you or someone in your office will find the time to display some of your work for our forum members. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dr. Ricardo Mejia Posted November 21, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 21, 2007 Bill: YOur welcome. I have invited PAt and hopefully he will be coming soon. I will try to have someone post more photos. There are a few on my physicians profile on this site and more on my website www.skinandhairdoc.com. I am in the process of updateing my website as well as it has not been updated for almost 4 years. HOpefully some of my patientss will come out of the woodwork and post themselves. Glad I can help with your forums. Ricardo Mejia MD, FAAD Jupiter FL Hair Transplant Network recommended physician; photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Salt-N-Peppa Posted November 21, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 21, 2007 My experience is the corkscrew effect lasted quite strongly for 9 months and has gradually lessened the effect over the next 10 months but it is still present. I can get rid of it after a shower and grooming but it comes back if I brush out the gel and exercise hard. ( ie lots of sweat and head/hair movement). All things considered, I'll take this nuisance vs. being bald. FWIW, cheers all, S-n-P HT#1 4944FU 23May06-Hasson HT#2 1960FU 16Jan07- Hasson 6904 Total FU, 13160 Hairs 2184-1's, 3184-2's, 1536-3's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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