Capt'N Mop!!!

Lorenzo, thank you for rejoining the discussion. I have been reviewing the transcripts, and I think the official position on lasers is "on the fence". There simply isn't enough evidence yet to make a conclusive decision. Right now, I *believe* were left to our own subjective judgments. If my review of the transcripts was wrong, then I stand corrected. But, that was my interpretation.

Farjo is just a little bit better than Hasson and the sacrificeth of goats are just a little bit better than the sacrificeth chickens; unfortunately there currently isn't enough data on lasers to make a conclusive decision, so like the great powers that be I will keep an open mind and wait for more evidence to make a decision. I stand corrected. PS it was your cunning wit that persuaded me. "captain CLOWN"... *you* ARE good! and the "think about THAT" comment that made me realize what pure intellectual sophistication & sheer complexity I was dealing with; indeed, it made me realize your revelation was akin to unlocking the mysteries of the Da Vinci code; I'm dealing w/an individual who has a wealth of refined knowledge stored up from the great abyss of the Coalition. Then you hit me w/this bad boy ' ' and I knew I was done. game set match...you win.

I guess, if the consultants removed their disclosures from their signatures -AND- all of their patient PHOTO gallery's -AND- merely gave a description of the results asking blind faith in their results, your analogy would hold it's ground; but barring that, it doesn't. I wonder why Dr. M is exempt from the HTN requirements Dr. Feller posted. BTW, I've read your case and I *genuinely* feel for you but TBH it seems your not approaching this discussion w/a rational, sensible, objective attitude.

personally, I think if your open to new ideas and willing to take a chance then more power to ya! And if you personally see a result (difference) than I for one am happy for you. I wish you continued success Indian balding and am happy to be happy w.you. On another note, while I know this isn't possible in the U.S., have there been any controlled clinical studies regarding the chicken and goat sacrificeth Dr. Mohamand brought up in the other thread? He said 1/100 might experience some sort of benefit from "woo doo" is this data taken directly from a small or large sample size of chicken and/or goat sacrifices? In your experience which produce a greater potential yield, chicken or goat?

Of course you need to research, how else did I find your ht web log Bill; you went from Brad Pitt hair to bald to back to Brad Pitt hair again, just like you said in your web log; how many girls told you that anyway? Its an inspiration and the very catalyst of my own personal (graft) journey. If you go to a Coalition doctor you can expect the very same Ultra Refined Results. Perhaps in my great gratitude to the Coalition and the very community which has served as a bastion of hope to many a balding heads, the tongue has tipped in a moment of passion, to not allow others to reach the end of their own hair journey experience and conclude the same as I. perhaps. Dewayne, your not a rhino feeding off the blubber of the land constantly typing superfluous material in your current regimen. Your a severely, balding man seeking to reach the end of the shiny barren road. Were all brethren in the barren road. I just hope to see you at the end my friend; whether jogging, lifting weights or using androgel, I hope to see you there brother! Have a safe and refined journey friends.

if you had your way, there would be a goat in the COALITION: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKkwaqZf4i4 SHAMELESS...

agree 100%

So, wait--- are you NOT sure how many of your reccomended surgeons offer this practice that Dr. Feller (one of the Coalition members) says is bogus? If your not sure *who* does, then why do you keep referring to them as "ethical physicians"? If you don't know who they are, how do you know their ethical? I can't trust ALL of the methods a coalition dr utilizes and sells are reviewed and ULTRA REFINED? Some of them might try and sell me snake oil non-scientific products like that guy who said he can predict how many hairs someone will lose in a day, year, etc etc?... do you agree w/that docs premise, that one can asses how many hairs patient 'x' is losing in a day, a month, and project it into 3 years?...seems contrary to everything I've read on here. So basically don't buy anything other than grafts from a Coalition dr (?)... is that right?

Are you saying you don't know what all members of the COALITION are offering as forms of services to their patients? As far as the two COALITION members you are aware of offering this practice goes: if your still undecided and not fully convinced of the efficacy of laser therapy, how do you support and reccomend those doctors who practice it for a monetary exchange? I don't mean to be so blunt, but I hate to see patients being treated as guine pigs. If your not convinced, then why support and reccomend them? Either way, thank you for the response; much appreciated as this discussion has me quite concerned as I'm a patient advocate and am very adverse to seeing those already suffering from hair loss being squandered of money for snake-oil type products and ponze schemes. Thank You Kindly Sir, look forward to hearing more on this stimulating discussion.

this is weak and fallacious at *best*. premise: patient loses 'x' # of hairs per day and is projected to lose 'x' # of hairs in 3 years. NO ONE in their right mind will tell you that hair loss is predictable in ANY patient; let alone calculating a formula to know precisely how many hairs they will lose per day, per year, and how many hairs left at the end of three years. Conclusion: "it means that the hair loss was contained due to *that* product...I call this that product is working"... so the fact that the patient has lost slightly less hair than your voodoo equation calculated somehow proves *that* product is working?... I think Feller should be insulted you use the word "Colleagues"...

So who precisely are the "reputable" and "ethical" doctor's that prescribe laser therapy to their patients? never got an answer (?)... Bill, do you have a doctorate degree in any of the sciences, or are you speaking merely from a balding blog moderator point of view? Im still on the fence as to which side to choose and am currently evaluating both camps credentials. Respect to all, very interesting discussion.

Out of curiosity what doctor's, w/in the Coalition, suggest laser therapy? Anyone, anyone? Also, there's seemingly a fundamental difference between a "point of view" and a science, no? A point of view would be akin to the interpretation of art, whereas a science is based on hard empirical data which establishes a strong, sound relationship between it's premises and conclusion('s). Either empirical data supports the claims of LLLT proponents or it does not (?).

your missing the most fundamental aspects of these issues: -all members of the COALITION use Ultra Refined methods and as a direct result produce equal quality work. -there's really no need to quote me when my post is directly above yours. -most of your regimen is superfluous to hair loss (whether it's automatically posted or not). -what the hell is androgel? Current regimen: prune juice: M-W-F tap dancing lessons w/Pablo: 7x week erotic adult puppet show for homeless (18+ only): 4x week visual representation of Bethovans 5th for the hearing impaired (this involves various movements which I personally feel most accurately reflect the notes, tone, and general mood of his hit song, sometimes involving the lower hamstring muscles (i.e. hammy's) and to a certain degree the glutimas maximus, but not on prune juice days...learned from my mistake ) : 1x week

this news is going to put the entire ht industry out of business. Bill, this is financial suicide, your nuts! You better take this down before pat sees it...

well, I guess your right they weren't "created" equal; it was only through their own hard work and personal ambitions that they were able to achieve ultra refined results and become members of the Coalition. now that they are, they *are* ALL creating EQUALLY Ultra Refined results. They are all equals now. All of them. And you can expect the same equal results from any of them. thanks for the clarification B spot, I over looked that aspect!

just like Charlie Sheen and the 9/11 consperacy theorists their will always be nay sayers and those who do not believe... laser therapy is typically costly,but fortunately I have a special offer. I have just posted a used Laser Tag gun on E-bay, which has been duck taped to a traditional black comb, if anyones interested and can't afford "traditional" laser therapy. It won't be up long, so if your interested hit me up. (two double A batteries REQUIRED & not included)...

fortunately I don't need to, in case you weren't aware it's already been done for us. everything has been done for us. we don't have to do anything. ANYTHING! maybe when your finished typing your 'current regimen' at the bottom of your signature you can click a few links on this site and see how much work pat has done for us; don't be an ungrateful hippo, sitting around blubbering the fat of the land and please stop w/your "top five" propaganda that serves merely to demean MANY of the members of the COALITION...Like any union, their all EQUAL. You don't see a TOP FIVE states in the US do you? Were all equal! ELITIST! WORLD PEACE, give it a chance angry hippo! ... PS---what the hell is androGEL? (lubricant?)

very very nice! you look 10 years younger! congrats!

hi, currently the coalition doesn't extend to Hyderabad. see enclosed coalition map & graph for details: http://www.hairlosslearningcenter.org/content/restorati...s/our_physicians.asp

all members of THE coalition are created equal; we need to come together & end this nonsensical discriminatory behavior of "top five;" ultra refined is ultra refined. Im sorry but if your not a member of THE coalition than that's where I draw the line, but if you are then your the top of the top, the cream of the crop, the captain & director of all mops. it's THE coalition for me or you might as well be going to bosley. the state of the hair union is strong. to demean THE coalition to a "top" category is tantamount to muddying the waters...

Im confused. can you please show me some results that parallel these w/respect to not only ultra refined results but clear transparent documentation: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/showthread.php?t=145754 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/showthread.php?t=151636 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/showthread.php?t=152956 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/showthread.php?t=143484 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/showthread.php?t=153532 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/showthread.php?t=147129

Jeezus----that thing doesn't even look human. looks like some prehistoric beast you would find in the wild; or perhaps gene *experiment* created by dr. evil a 1960's Bond would be found wrestling at the bottom of the ocean---MoPtO Pussy. how dare you tout your mopto-pussy shamelessly amongst the feeble headed balded men of this NATION. I am insulted by the excess of hair you tout, as each of it's curly wild tentacles reaches out from your mopto-pussy to entangle my balded woes and worries in your hair. I for one will not be entangled by your mopto pussy tentacles as my hair falls to the bottom of dr evils ocean. I will only help those in need, not those w/excess who gluttenously seek to fill some evil desire. sick!

no other clinic has consistently transplanted as many grafts as H&W in a single session...hands down, period. people used to claim that H&W were jeopordizing the grafts and over all result by such large single, stand alone sessions, but time has proven the nay sayers wrong...

the imagery the description in your post evokes is so rich & robust, I had to stop my dinner and worship the hair gods... I always thought there was some causal relationship between body hair and balding {i.e. testosterone production (?)} as well; but this has most assuradly been proven incorrect. The fact that you have a $hit load of a$$ hair is in no way a pre curser, or causal factor, for hair loss. However, if body hair transplant ever becomes standard (perfected) - AND - you find a *willing* doc, you are in good shape my friend.