NervousNelly

Thanks guys for the feedback. Ofcourse because I was a moron 16 years ago and did essentially no research and just wanted hair, I don't have too many facts from HT. I estimate that the largest are 6-10 hairs and I think that in person you would see them better even though they are not terrible. I was fortunate. As stated earlier, I do still have some native hair and this helps. I want 2nd HT before more native hair is shed and the plugs are more visible.

Posted more photos in photo album area under Nervousnelly. Thanks

The mellon of Nervous Nelly. I will have to change my name at some point because I am now educated and not so nervous. The biggest issue for me is the nervousness of the time off and if people will notice when I go back to work. An issue we all face though...

Some of you may have read my previous threads. I had an HT 16 years ago and it is not the greatest job but not too bad considering the technology then. I do still have some native hair which helps conceal things. My journey to find a doc starts next week. I am seeing Dr. Tessler and then having consults with HW, and Shapiro. I will e-mail the previous 2 my pics to do an online consult to start with but do want to meet them in person 1st. Just want some feedback from all of you guys as to what your thoughts are? Please comment on: 1. What you think of previous HT. (I know its "pluggy" but re: hairline high enough?, etc. 2. Does it look like the plugs will have to be removed? 3. Donor site ok? 4. How many FU for hairline and mid? This is my priority? 5. How many for Crown? 6. Any other comments/considerations welcome. I am 38 and have been losing hair since 19 so slow progression. Family history of thin and receeding hair but not 6+. BE NICE in comments thanks.(I know that my hairstyle has a hint of combover but it hides plugs. I know you are not docs but many of you are almost as knowledgeable. BTW the red on scalp is scab from minoxidol--causes bad itching in winter. Pics may be seperate threads if we can't send all together.

Nobuzz, I had an HT 16 years ago and have an appt. with Dr. Tessler next week. I am hoping that I do not have to undergo removal of plugs first. I definitely have a pluggish look but still also have native hair. I would estimate that my grafts are 1/2 the size of repair guys and the initial hairline is high enough I think.(the lowest point is 8 cm above eybrow) My thought is that donor area is good assuming 1st doc didn't screw up donor area-I don't think though. I will find out more with consult. I do plan on also talking to Shapiro and HW. I"ll let you know.

When I go for my next session can I ask for "The Pat". Looks awesome. I would love results like yours.

Good luck with everything. It takes a lot of courage to post such a heartfelt thread. We are all rooting for some awesome results so that you can have your life back again. It'll all work out.

Much appreciated responses. My previous HT does have a few "wanderers" as well and therefore will have to consider this with the next surgery. Does more density typically get achieved wih hair straight back or with a side part?

The primary goal of the HT is to establish an artistic and natural hairline and then once this is achieved other considerations can be addressed. My question that I would like to pose is: With a quality and technically sound HT performed in the frontal area, can any hairstyle be attempted or is this something that has to be previously thought out? I'm not naive and do understand that there are several factors to consider, however, are you usually "stuck" with a certain hairstyle? With a quality job and assuming there is enough density you should be able to have most options isn't that correct? Is it just me or do you tend to see a pattern with the choice of hairline that certain surgeons tend to favour. I feel like I can look at certain HT and tell you who performed the job. The doctors I am speaking of do perform awesome work and by know means am I meaning anything derogatory, just curious. I guess that if you have perfected something why not stick with it.

The primary goal of the HT is to establish an artistic and natural hairline and then once this is achieved other considerations can be addressed. My question that I would like to pose is: With a quality and technically sound HT performed in the frontal area, can any hairstyle be attempted or is this something that has to be previously thought out? I'm not naive and do understand that there are several factors to consider, however, are you usually "stuck" with a certain hairstyle? With a quality job and assuming there is enough density you should be able to have most options isn't that correct? Is it just me or do you tend to see a pattern with the choice of hairline that certain surgeons tend to favour. I feel like I can look at certain HT and tell you who performed the job. The doctors I am speaking of do perform awesome work and by know means am I meaning anything derogatory, just curious. I guess that if you have perfected something why not stick with it.

Pat, Thanks so much for responding. I feel more confident knowing that Dr. Tessler comes with a solid reference such as yourself. I am heading in to see him next week. I have decided to document everything because I think that if he is that talented others need to know. He is the 1st consult in my journey.

Ofcourse it was my post about the need for doctors to showcase their work that started the discussion of a blacklist. As stated, in a perfect world it might be a good thing but unfortunately nothing is black and white. I'm quite certain that several of the coalition doctors that have been performing HT for several years have done some poor jobs. This ofcourse would not necessarily be do to lack of skill or moral integrity, but there are such drastic advancements in technology in the past few years. The "grey area" such as when was the surgery done is a huge factor in the outcome. I applaud the POSITIVE attitudes and sincerity that I've witnessed on this site and I would hate to change that. By the way, my journey begins. I have my consult with Dr. Tessler next week. I'll keep everyone posted.

Shorty, I think that the key is that every surgery should be looked upon as your last(because a butcher might limit ability for another surgery) and therefore you need to choose one of the best. I have done a lot of research and will be visiting Shapiro, and HW because of all the deserved hype about them. I too would love to have my next surgery close to home for several obvious reasons, but don't let it be a big part of your decision. Good luck

I appreciate your feedback. I am in total aggreement with you and I guess I didn't explain myself well. An unsolicited individual that is on this forum and displays several pictures of their HT is definitely the best form of advertising for a coalition doctor. My point though is that why do we have to search or wait to see individuals that have the gumption or technical know how to send in their photos. If these doctors are actually producing consistent and technically sound artistic hairlines and sutures why are THEY not demonstrating it on a regular basis. How awesome would it be if on their own merit they regularly posted a couple new patients weekly. If they posted on their websites quality photos (close ups included) in ideal lighting from several different angles and desribe the scenario behind each case, it would raise the bar for coalition doctors. Those not capable of producing the same work would be more readily weeded out. Remember, there are limited numbers that actually do send in their photos to this site, but it is the doctors that have the "access" to the patients getting the HT and if it became standardized where all the work was documented with photos that could be viewed by everyone, then there would be absolutely no debate who deserves to be recognized as an outstanding surgeon and praised by us on forums. Ofcourse there is nothing better that viewing the work in person, but sometimes this limits you to only a few individuals the clinics provide or those willing to display on the forums.

I'm sure that the question has been brought up before but could'nt find the topic posted. Obviously there are several important criteria that a HT doctor must reach and maintain in order to be considered for the coalition membership. Has it ever been discussed as to certain criteria that they must meet for their ways of marketing themselves. For example, I think that it would be extremely valuable if they had to post x-number of photos, different stages of the HT, certain lighting, several angles. There should always be a description of the # of fu and any other relavant info. They should have to add new photos every 6 months or so, etc. Obvioulsly the criteria have to be reasonable so that they don't have outragious expenses, drastic time constraints, etc., but I think that it would be great. I understand what some have said like Bill, that you don't want to base decisions on pictures alone, but lets face it we all love photos. It also will weed out the docs that post pics of 20 yr. olds with 300 Fu to increase there already wolfman hairline.

I'm sure that the question has been brought up before but could'nt find the topic posted. Obviously there are several important criteria that a HT doctor must reach and maintain in order to be considered for the coalition membership. Has it ever been discussed as to certain criteria that they must meet for their ways of marketing themselves. For example, I think that it would be extremely valuable if they had to post x-number of photos, different stages of the HT, certain lighting, several angles. There should always be a description of the # of fu and any other relavant info. They should have to add new photos every 6 months or so, etc. Obvioulsly the criteria have to be reasonable so that they don't have outragious expenses, drastic time constraints, etc., but I think that it would be great. I understand what some have said like Bill, that you don't want to base decisions on pictures alone, but lets face it we all love photos. It also will weed out the docs that post pics of 20 yr. olds with 300 Fu to increase there already wolfman hairline.

If you are comfortable with that option than by all means that is a good option for you. It is an awesome thing that it became "vogue" to shave your head. Try it and see what you think. This forum is a helpful place and I think that you will find that for most of us the key is that an individual is happy and content in their own skin. All options should be considered--valid point. Take care.

Looks great. Best of luck.

Laughter is great medicine. I agree with you whole heartedly. I think that sometime we take things too seriously. I know that this decision is a challenge but life is full of them and we continue to move on. I am so grateful that there is so much advancement in HT that allows us an opportunity to do something about what we are uncomfortable with. Thanks

Bill, Once again thanks. You're right about the photos, but I guess it is used as a starting point along with what you hear in forums. Trust me, it is going to be one hell of a deal for me to just to walk into the clinic for a consult. Heck, it's challenging for me just to pick up the propecia prescription. Crazy but I'm not the only one I'm sure. It's like being in high school again and getting the condoms for the weekend. I won't waste any more of your time. I just have to schedule the consult and go from there. I figure that I will talk to Tessler and I know that I am well armed with enough knowledge to discuss my situation with him. I will ofcourse make my decision after talking to Shapiro, HW and Rose. If I can be comfortable that I can get the quality results close to home then why not right? Take care. Thanks for the link.

Thanks for the quick response guys. As you both know, this whole process is quite the challenging one on your nerves and it is awesome to know that there are others in a similar position. Does anyone know why Pat only has positive things to say about all clinics he visits--and relatively generic comments? No offense to Pat who has done such an awesome thing for all of us. Also, with modern technology and the kinds of $$ some of the coalition doctors make, why don't they provide more and better photos/video on their web sites? Patients don't have to show faces if they don't want. By the way Bill--things look awesome for you.

I am very new to this forum but I have been researching for quite a long time. I had a transplant 16 years ago in Toronto by Dr. Cole. It is certainly not the best job I have ever seen but I understand that it was several years ago and he was very limited as to what he was capable of performing. Due to the fact that I still had a decent amount of my own native hair, it has giving me several years of increased confidence through my 20's and early 30's(surgery done when 22). I guess now I am not as vain as I was and would be more comfortable with letting nature take its course, but I am forced into getting another procedure now as the natural aging process is happening and I am seeing a slightly pluggish look appearing. I have been putting off the inevitable because of being super nervous about going through the procedure again. Not that the 1st was that terrible or anything,but I am a doctor and in the public eye and have been concerned with the time off and who will notice.--like most of us I guess. What is a "safe" amount of time to take off work so that things will heal enough. I see some posts that look scarey for about a week and others that you can hardly tell after a couple of days. I am guessing but think that I will need about 1500-2000 fu's. I am confused about choosing doctor. I have narrowed down to scheduling with Shapiro, HW,Rose, and Tessler. I live close to the Detroit area and have chosen to set up an appt with Tessler because of convenience.(I told myself before that this is a lifelong decision that I will NOT base on convenience alone) I have not heard much on forums about him so it scares me a little. I realize that Pat has visited his clinic and says good things, but that scares me too because I havent seen Pat post anything negative about his onsite visits. Are they legit?? Tesslers website pictures are not the best either and there are few postings. Can he provide a quality and artistic hairline for a younger patient? Ofcourse I would want to see some of his patients in person. As I said, I am not going to decide based on convenience, but if a quality doctor is nearby, why not? If these guys want to demonstrate their skills, why do they not post more photos for us to view and good photos at that? That recent video of a HW patient was sweet. When I decide to proceed to the next surgery I will post several before, during, and after photos so that I can help to inform all of you guys. I truly appreciate this site and especially all of the very well informed/educated regulars. I look forward to responses. Thanks.

I am very new to this forum but I have been researching for quite a long time. I had a transplant 16 years ago in Toronto by Dr. Cole. It is certainly not the best job I have ever seen but I understand that it was several years ago and he was very limited as to what he was capable of performing. Due to the fact that I still had a decent amount of my own native hair, it has giving me several years of increased confidence through my 20's and early 30's(surgery done when 22). I guess now I am not as vain as I was and would be more comfortable with letting nature take its course, but I am forced into getting another procedure now as the natural aging process is happening and I am seeing a slightly pluggish look appearing. I have been putting off the inevitable because of being super nervous about going through the procedure again. Not that the 1st was that terrible or anything,but I am a doctor and in the public eye and have been concerned with the time off and who will notice.--like most of us I guess. What is a "safe" amount of time to take off work so that things will heal enough. I see some posts that look scarey for about a week and others that you can hardly tell after a couple of days. I am guessing but think that I will need about 1500-2000 fu's. I am confused about choosing doctor. I have narrowed down to scheduling with Shapiro, HW,Rose, and Tessler. I live close to the Detroit area and have chosen to set up an appt with Tessler because of convenience.(I told myself before that this is a lifelong decision that I will NOT base on convenience alone) I have not heard much on forums about him so it scares me a little. I realize that Pat has visited his clinic and says good things, but that scares me too because I havent seen Pat post anything negative about his onsite visits. Are they legit?? Tesslers website pictures are not the best either and there are few postings. Can he provide a quality and artistic hairline for a younger patient? Ofcourse I would want to see some of his patients in person. As I said, I am not going to decide based on convenience, but if a quality doctor is nearby, why not? If these guys want to demonstrate their skills, why do they not post more photos for us to view and good photos at that? That recent video of a HW patient was sweet. When I decide to proceed to the next surgery I will post several before, during, and after photos so that I can help to inform all of you guys. I truly appreciate this site and especially all of the very well informed/educated regulars. I look forward to responses. Thanks.