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it depends on how short you wear your hair. I usually wear my hair short and at the 9 weeks post op mark and starting to see some thin hair sprouting too. I just get it buzzed down to a #4-5 every month or so, so that the new hair will eventually catch up in length to the existing hair. If you look carefully at the new hair, most of them come out really thin with almost no pigments and will continue to grow longer and thicker, so it'll be simply a matter of time before the new hair match up with existing hair in length and thickness.

i guess everyone is different, the hair on my body just don't grow as long as the hair on my head. never really heard of anyone having to trim the hair on their body because it just don't grow, not to mention that it's not the same texture as the hair on the head. hair from the body are more curly. guess you could get 6-7 hts, but why not do it all at once, if you need that large of a transplant, to save yourself the waiting time.

are you referring to a recent transplant where the new hair that sprouted are like baby hair and you are a blonde? If so, I'm assuming that it'd take a bit longer than someone with darker hair for the newly sprouted hair to be noticeble. I have black hair and my transplant was about 2.5 months ago and I have my hairline has a bunch of small barely visible hair that I can only see within a few inches. So blone hair would take even longer because it has less pigments than black hair, so I'd say at least 3-4 months after surgery, but most people will tell you to be patient and don't bother looking at it too much until 6 months post op. Most babies' hair are thin until they pass one year old mark. My cousin's baby has black hair also, and she's about 13 months old, and most of her hair are black now, but still very thin. Looks like someone that has diffuse thinning.

what the? you used your email as the topic?

the second picture shows the density much better, and you're right, there appears to be a lot of spacing between the grafts. now that you've done the research, you should know by now that $4.40 per graft is not that great of a deal, some of the top surgeons recommended on this site don't even charge that much, but hey look on the bright side, if you ever want to get some fill-in work by the top docs here, it'll be cheaper than Bosely. Regardless, I think the results will still look better than how you looked originally because you lowered your existing hairline and everything back looks fairly thick, so the results may look pretty natural, but it's definitly not dense.

that looks about right, not sure why you feel as if you didn't get what you paid for? Did you feel as if the placements aren't dense enough? In my opinion, if the hair line is packed too dense, it might have a artificial look to it, especially if you're thinning in other areas. Which doctor did you go with, seeing that you're from AZ, did you go with Dr. Keene? If so, that was the doctor of my choice as well, and she does great work. I'm sure others will tell you to not to judge the quality of work until at least 6-8 months later. It's just way too early to tell how the results will look. Hang in there man...best of luck.

I've had my HT 2 months ago and the donor area is still very visible with the scar. I have a few patches of hair that came off with the scar when I was peeling the dry skin off there. When does the hair grow back in there to cover up the scar typically? I understand that there can be some permanent shockloss, although rare because this is my first surgery. But if it does come back, when do they come back typically?

I've had my HT 2 months ago and the donor area is still very visible with the scar. I have a few patches of hair that came off with the scar when I was peeling the dry skin off there. When does the hair grow back in there to cover up the scar typically? I understand that there can be some permanent shockloss, although rare because this is my first surgery. But if it does come back, when do they come back typically?

I've had my surgery a little bit over a month and a half ago and the receipient area is still numb. I get slight itch in that area, but when I scratch it, I feel like I'm not quite scratching it, it's hard to explain. It feels like that area has a thicker layer of scalp, and I'm only sratching the surface, and the itch is below and I can't get to the itch. Also, near the temple area, I'm getting pimple looking bumps on only the left temple area, I use the hot towel compression every other day, but it doesn't really help much. Anyone else has this kind of experience? I'm thinking numbness at over 7 weeks after the surgery is a bit odd, no?

I've had my surgery a little bit over a month and a half ago and the receipient area is still numb. I get slight itch in that area, but when I scratch it, I feel like I'm not quite scratching it, it's hard to explain. It feels like that area has a thicker layer of scalp, and I'm only sratching the surface, and the itch is below and I can't get to the itch. Also, near the temple area, I'm getting pimple looking bumps on only the left temple area, I use the hot towel compression every other day, but it doesn't really help much. Anyone else has this kind of experience? I'm thinking numbness at over 7 weeks after the surgery is a bit odd, no?

yes, denial sure is something that can cause one to pin point something that may or may not be the cause of a problem. The thing is, no one else in my family has any balding issues on both my father's and mother's side. At worst, I've noticed that both of my grandpa's has a really high hairline at an old age, but no thinning as far as I can remember. It really makes me wonder why and what cause me to have MPB, especially starting at a younger age, when there's no similar patterns in either side of parents' family. Then it makes you look at your own diet and lifestyle at the time that MPB was showing its effect, and the only thing that I can really think of was the strenous exercise routine and supplements that I was going through towards my late-teens years. I was not on steroid, but takeing creatine on and off for an one year period. And looking back now, my hairloss seemed to have slowed down quite a bit ever since I've stopped working out religiously, so it makes it hard for me to not to put the blame on the creatine. Like I said before, creatine may not be the sole factor, but possibly the combination of creatine and heavy lifting that can cause ones testesterone that contributed to early MPB.

Looks great and very natural. Did Dr. Hasson lowered the hairline a bit, or was it all just packing behind the existing hairline and filling in the temples? That looks very natural, you have a naturally high hairline, and Dr. Hasson did a very good job blending it in as usual. Congrats..

Looks great Gary, that's very good results in the frontal 1/3 area with only 1500 grafts. You should start a thread in the photo album, it'll make it easier to post multiple pictures and put them in the right chronological order.

Personally, I find this thread kinda amusing like some kinda reality show..haha... Did you guys read what he said on the last post? "I don't want to get more specific because there probably some Bosley people on this forum" What do you say to something like that? His reason for not answering the questions is that, A: he thinks we are undercover Bosely employees B: he doesn't want to discredit Bosely for the sake other ex-Bosely patients... Come on guys, you guys have got to see the humor that I find in this. On one hand I feel bad for him, on the other hand, I want to tell him off. I mean so what if we really are Bosely employees? We are going send some muscle man to his address and physically force him to stop bad mouthing Bosely on this forum? If he felt that he's been screwed by Bosely, why is he even trying to protect Bosely or keeping his mouth shut... I don't get this...completly speechless...Is there a subscribe function on this forum? I know some other forums have it, I want to see where this ends...hahaha

why not give Dr. Keene a call, she's located in Tucson AZ, which is not too far from CA. I drove there from So Cal myself and had a pleasant experience there. I personally really enjoy long drives and road trips and going to places I've been before, so didn't mind the 6-7 hour drive to get there.

I have quite a few hair near the hairline area that still haven't shed yet, and don't think they will. Is it strange to be still a bit numb in the receipient area a month and a week post op?

yea, I still got some scabs left, and started washing and shampooing a bit more aggressively. funny how you sat in that same chair the day after me. I'm starting to get a bit of pimple looking things along the hairline and using hot towels to help them go away at 1 month and 1 week.

I started noticing my hair falling out a bit more, when I was really into lifting and was on creatine at the time. Not exactly sure which type of creatine it was, but it was the ones that you mixed with water in powder form. Can't really say that creatine had anything to do with my hair falling out, maybe the combination of creatine and heavy lifting raising the DHT level in my body contributed to the hair loss.

actionradar... I had my surgery done by Dr. Keene as well on June 14th. With my current progress it looks a lot like yours right now. If you look for my album, you'll see what I mean. Very similar hair loss pattern with dark hair on light skin. I'm also at the one month post op mark for 1st HT. It's good to compare my progress to yours. I still have quite a bit of scabs left, and recently have started shampooing a bit more aggressively. I'm not sure about using the Rogaine even though Dr. Keene's instructions suggested its usage for the first 3 months after the surgery. If I was to use it, I think I should use it for long term, not just 3 months. Here's the link to my album... http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/showthread.php?t=155098

hairdini I had my surgery with Dr. Keene also during mid June, and am currently 3 weeks post op, a few months behind you. I had the same experience and thought that my receipient area would be really red, but other than the slight swelling on my forehead and nose area for the first few days post op, there was no redness at all. It was really numb in the receipient area until about 3 weeks post op, I'm starting to feel a bit of itch here and there on the grafted areas.

summer2007 The procedure started at 8:30 in the morning and I walked out of her office at about 5:30 to 6PM, but really only felt like I was there for couple of hours, because I was knocked out by the medication the whole time. its752 Yes, I will be updating the photo album at least once a month. During my research during the surgery, I really appreciated the other members that updated the post op progress to help us newer ones understand the process better, and I will do the same to help others as well.

man, doctor keene sure has been busy lately. Finnari, I just got back from a surgery with Dr. Keene on the 14th, 2 weeks ahead of you. If you don't normally live in the AZ area, it would be nice to find a hotel near her office in Tucson. I thought I'd be ok to drive immediatly post op, but found out that I was too light-weight for those pain killers, I was just stumbling my way out of the office. Overall, she does a clean job, pain should be minimal. It's hot right now in AZ, so I'd keep myself out of the heat as much as possible for the first week after the surgery.

I'm sure there are doctors that would do it, you're over 18 the decision is yours. With that said, if you must have it done, please go with a recommended coalition doctor. As far as reasons why you shouldn't get it done, I think the other posters already gave the reasons to you. If those reasons were not enough to talk to you out of it... Put it this way, everybody's donor hair is very very limited, and we all wish we can have more of it regardless of Norwood level we are. If you go through a HT right now, and use some of the donor area to lower your hairline, you're happy and life is good... Fast forward to say, 10 years later, and you're 29. Now you're starting to see hair loss at the crown area, and hairline is starting to recede, don't think it would be better to have that amount of hair that you used to lower your hairline now? I'll let you weigh it out yourself, would you rather have a higher hairline or a few patches or bald spots on your head? I think most of us that have to deal with thinning or bald spots, we'd trade that anyday to have a full head of hair, but with a slightly higher hairline.

Gorpy, since we went to the same doctor, I can definitly see the similarities between our hairline even though I'm a "high contrast" with coarse straight hair. I noticed that most of my new hairline are hairs much finer and thinner than the hairs behind it, and I strongly believe that Dr. Keene did it on purpose, but I do not know how it was done because I was asleep. I do see Jotronic's point of view that softer hairline can look exceptionally natural on someone like yourself, but not so on someone like me. Like you mentioned in my other thread, it will be interesting to see how Dr. Keene's technique turns out with my hair characteristics.

Thanks for the comments guys...glad I finally got those pics up, took me over 10 days to do so. Gorpy...Yes I'm not only a high contrast type of guy, my hair is also straight as a ruler, with nearly no curls whatsoever, so any thinning will be really apparent. On top of the flash that my camera gave, the pictures does appear a lot worst than to the naked eye under normal light conditions. No, I haven't been following the soft vs. hard hairline debate, but I'm guessing that Dr. Keene took the "soft" approach being that it's not completly flat across with some irregularities or jagged hair line. She spent about a good 15 minutes drawing up my hairline with the little ruler that she had. She told me that even though a perfectly symmetric hairline does look good, but not as natural looking. Yes, there were quite a bit of grafts underneath the existing hair and about 200 towards the mid of the frontal 1/3 area. Bill... Dr. Keene was my doctor and I have been on Propecia for over an year prior to the surgery and will be continuing the same dosage for a long time. As the picture shows, the thinning is starting to creep back towards the crown area, which I did not notice until recently, so hopefully Propecia will do its magic more back there. folica... good memory...As of right now I'm very optimistic about the results that Dr. Keene did. If all the grafted hair grows, and I do see much existing hair shock-loss...this transplant should be good to tie me over for the next 5-10 years hopefully. I'm 27 right now, a bit young for the surgery, but there was no one else in both sides of my family that had MPB...