HairEnthusiast101

3 hours ago, NARMAK said:

So, I've decided to start this topic because i think just like every other human on this planet, those luscious locks of celebs are just as disposed to hair loss as we are and even with all those millions in the bank they still "only" have access to the same treatments as the rest of us mere mortals. 

So i wanted to show how important sometimes medication like Finasteride etc. can be to stave off those really seemingly horrible family genetics. Here's a picture of Andrew Garfield and his father as well as brother from an appearance on Colbert. 

Any other examples you guys want to share, discuss or chime in would be very welcome. 

Has Andrew done anything or just luck?

7 hours ago, Fue3361 said:

Good question.  I personally would want 6 months, which I fee like is a good time point where most of the grafts have sprouted.  I hate the idea of putting my body through heavy stress with unborn hairs still lingering haha!

 

 But the real answer is probably much sooner than that.

No thank you for response I was thinking about 6-8 months due to stress or going under anesthesia. I can easily wait a year too I just didn’t know if it was safe a year after. How long before HT could I do something like that?

How long after would it be safe to get another surgery like liposuction or other forms of plastic surgery after HT?

4 hours ago, gillenator said:

Yes the placement of grafts along with graft selection can make a difference with some of the best skilled surgeons yet IMHO, it comes down to the differences between the individuals’  optimal hair characteristics and how the visual illusion of coverage is impacted and ultimately attained.

Thank you for responding. Would you say placement is really benefiting or hurting the patient though if only dry hair looks somewhat thick but in a pool it isn’t going to hide the lack of density?

That illusion of density do you think goes hand in hand with surgeons who do more with less grafts? Some surgeons seem to really utilize grafts well but I cannot tell if it is hiding still recession through ways they video/take photos or they just utilitize grafts better. Dr Farjo is a great example many of his results use less grafts than most but look incredible. So didn’t know if an illusion of density happened there 

2 hours ago, Rahal Hair Transplant said:

Jodimaggio,

getting a perm won’t do anything to hurt your hair transplant.  As far as how long after a hair restoration procedure you can perm your hair, well… transplanted hair won’t be long enough to perm for at least six months after it starts growing.  Thus, by the time it’s long enough to perm, it surely going to be safe enough.

Wavy/curly hair can also assist with providing an illusion of density so if you like the wavy/curly look, it can benefit the overall appearance of density of your hair transplant in time.

best wishes,

Rahal Hair Transplant

Okay awesome. I just had no idea if perms were bad for hair(if you did it once) either before or after HT

Yes I agree with both of you. His high Norwood cases are up there with the best. 

2 minutes ago, Gatsby said:

No. A perm only affects the hair. Not the bulb below the scalp, DHT levels, etc.

Sweet I’m thinking of getting one to see But just curious if I ever get an HT how long one would have to wait

7 hours ago, Fue3361 said:

I can tell you more or less what the standards are in Brazil.  A cheap transplant probably runs around 2.2k USD.  You can get a pretty good one around the 5k USD mark.  Top end place like Pittella, Thiago Bianco, etc. probably start at the 8k USD mark + (depending on size of transplant).

I don't know his exact prices though. 

Sweet thank you. 

7 hours ago, Gatsby said:

Perming your hair is a good way to give the illusion of more coverage. I would wait a good six months personally but I would think (if you had enough hair grown out) that three months would be fine. I really think how long your hair is to perm dictates this one.

Does perm speed up balding at all?

How long after FUE can you get a perm? Also does perm cause hair loss long term? I’d probably only do it once just to see

1 minute ago, J.A.C said:

@Dr. Felipe PittellaMight be kind enough to comment here 🙂

Yes would be very curious because I’d love to consult with him. I think his work speaks for itself

4 hours ago, J.A.C said:

100% the opposite to a mill ! 

Good then. I say that not too offend but his results are insane and he has a big following so I had no clue. I really wonder what he charges per graft.

Just now, J.A.C said:

Fantastic work ! Quite a few results here on the forum 👍🏽

Is he trusted like it isn’t a mill correct? I’m just curious because his work on social media looks impeccable but I can’t tell if he should be trusted or not

Thoughts on Felipe Pittella out of Brazil? I’ve seen the name a couple times on here. I know it isn’t a recommended surgeon I was just curious what many though on his HTs?

Just now, J.A.C said:

About 18% 

Wow depending on total cost that can add up

Do you know what the tax is?

Two questions. The area you outlined for the transplant was it completely bald or just thinning hair there? Finally you have any photos of your donor area at all prior to treatment?

1 hour ago, Rahal Hair Transplant said:

Jo,

try not to think about FUE or FUT scoring as better or worse. Think of it as a type of scarring. Some FUT scars can be quite thin and w because of the trichophytic closure technique, individuals can often wear their hair quite short without showing any signs of scarring.  But no matter how thin it is, it’s still going to be a linear scar that extends pretty much from ear to ear that becomes more visible the shorter the hair gets.

On the other hand, FUE scarring produces tiny white dots which is barely noticeable ebej when wearing your hair quite short.  These scars are easier to conceal in most cases which is why it’s a more coveted procedure for many men.

Rahal Hair Transplant

 

Thank you. The area where fue scars go doesn’t ever bald correct so it is easier to seal those scars if you get old and thin out compared to fut being more noticeable as your hair shortens with age

2 hours ago, BeHappy said:

OK, so first there's a whole range of good and bad scars from both FUT and FUE, but I think you realize that, so for this lets assume you were to go to a top Dr and get good scars.  If you were to compare the best 20% of FUT scars with the best 20% of FUE scars if you shaved down then the FUT scar would be more noticeable because it's a long line all the way around the back of our head. Even if it is very fine and thin, if you are shaved down completely then you will notice it easily. The FUE scars are tiny dots scattered all over, so they don't stand out as much. With really good FUT scars you can get away with pretty short hair, but not totally shaved. If you keep your hair a bit longer it won't matter whether you had FUT or FUE because neither would be noticeable.

There is a way in some cases where FUT scars may be better and easier to hide then FUE scars. If you keep some length where the FUT scar is and fade it below that then you can fade to completely shaved down without revealing the scar. The trick is to do a low fade rather than far up the sides and back. In a case like that the lower portion of the FUE scar area may be noticeable if it was FUE, but the FUT scar would not be, so if you can style it a certain way FUT can turn out better scar wise.

However you never really know how well your scars will end up with FUT or FUE.

 

2 hours ago, AlexMeister21 said:

I think FUE scars will turn out better than FUT scars the majority of the time. I've had FUT procedures within the past year thinking it'd be alright, which it is still manageable, but if I could go back, I would do FUE instead. When my donor starts to thin with age, it's not going to be so easy hiding my scar back there. 

Thank you to both of you. Yes I was just curious because you hear so much about how top surgeons do 2mm fut strips and the scarring is very minimal. Fue of course is minimal for some but it does leave those little white dots all over your donor so I didn’t know if they were the same scar wise(if fut strip was small) and so fut would be smarter since it is just a strip compared to numerous dots. Again thank you

Many say so much about how fue leaves the little white dots but FUT leaves the big donor strip scar. Based off modern day FUT and how some clinics get 2-3mm or less strips for FUT does that change the degree of scar back there(hypertrophic/keloid) or does the scarring still always show worse than FUE scarring?

1 minute ago, NARMAK said:

No, Minoxidil isn't a must too imo. 

My personal opinion is that Finasteride is a must in any and all people that can handle it. 

Minoxodil actually works on less people imo when even taken topically which is why it's then recommended to switch to the oral form. 

If say for example Finasteride started to not work as well, you can switch to Dutasteride. With topcial Minoxodil you can't as easily switch to Oral Minoxodil imo. 

Finasteride and Minoxidil work synergistically for those who it works for very well, but Minoxidil should be used on a case by case basis and if you aren't using Finasteride for hair loss and just Minoxidil, you're masking the problem. Your hair loss eventually overtakes it. 

I usually recommend trying Finasteride for 12 months first. That way you have a good idea of seeing how much hair it helps preserve and then if you want to, add Minoxodil + Microneedling to bolster results where you want to go for regrowth. If you are quite far gone, then you should commit to both imo at the same time as long as you are willing to stay on both indefinitely. 

I do think Minoxidil can probably help you boost and thicken hair up much quicker than just Finasteride alone does. 

If I wanted to have kids one day and had to stop fin/Dut for that what could I do to still preserve transplanted/not transplanted hair?

On 4/20/2022 at 5:57 PM, NARMAK said:

Finasteride will help keep the donor area hair and generally the scalp hair healthier for longer by increasing the DHT blocking whilst you are on it. 

There's recently been a video Melvin did on his channel where top doctors talk about the importance of medication to help that hair quality to be there for longer. You can add in other things like PRP etc. but i think Finasteride is the main ingredient to help stave off hair thinning as you get older. 

You think minox is a must too long term or finasteride by itself is just as crucial as minox and fin?

1 minute ago, mtb said:

"send him photos him get a garage"? I don't know what that means but he won't agree to do surgery until he sees you in person, but you'll have to consult with him on that, I don't want to put words into his mouth. Hugo may have more insight on that. I think he said he had a quick turnaround from his consult to his surgery time. 

I meant could he decide if I am a good candidate through photo and then I come down for consult instead of me paying to come down just to be rejected 

9 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Here’s the thread 

 

Sweet thanks