jbond007

41 minutes ago, JoeMan said:

It is the weekend and with time difference I'm sure it will take longer than 14 hrs to gather this information. I'd give it a few days as I'm sure they'll have to find the pictures of these cases. Not saying for sure you're getting them but be a little more patient. 

You're right, I'm jumping the gun a bit. I'll wait for a few days and hope they send out the pictures. 

28 minutes ago, Egy said:

I think you are worrying too much, you are only 14 days after the transplant, not 14 weeks (which would still be a short time to judge) plus you went to one of the clinics that has been producing excellent results lately.

I get where you're coming from. But 2 months of research, picking the best clinic that I probably could and then getting a result which atleast initially seems to not look right becomes very disheartening. Especially because all it takes is one look in the mirror to remind me of it. I can't go out anywhere without putting a hat on because my transplanted hair sticks out so much. 
 

So yes I do agree that I could probably worry a bit less, but most of it is warranted given what I'm putting up with. 
 

Besides, isn't the 14-17 day mark considered the golden period? Where you get a preview of what your hair will look like 8-10 months later? Atleast that's what I remember hearing and reading everywhere. 

10 minutes ago, JC71 said:

Very true, after all we are looking at pics which appear to show the angles are off, lets see if actually are.. The OP was looking for reassurance and had the same concerns as a lot of people here and in other places. A explanation of why it appears this way and showing some other examples of previous hts which have gone on to be fine would really help. I hope the OP receives some as he requested. 
His concerns remain very valid.

She did send me a brief video explaining that some of my hair is sticking together and there has been some shock loss in the area.  But the general direction seems to be fine and I shouldn't worry. Also mentioned that my transplanted hair area is looking darker (more black) than my regular hair and that this could be due to the graft being thicker (since it was from back of my head) than my natural hair. I was confused by this explanation because my temple peaks seem to completely blend in and not stand out at all. 

I've asked the post surgery team how I can go about getting the post op pictures that were taken by eugenix. I'll share those here when I get them. 

As for some other similar examples, I doubt they'll ever send me those pictures. They would have 100% put me at ease as you said but like I said before, I asked Dr Arika to send me pictures 14+ hours ago at this point but haven't received anything. 

Edit - this is the picture I sent her last night with my hair wet. Which in my opinion clearly brought out the angle contrast between my natural and transplanted hair. I won't draw my transplanted area zone on this photo and I'm still sure almost all of you will be able to tell where the transplanted area begins. 

I'll share the name at this point because the clinic has repeatedly said that the angles are okay. I got my procedure done from Eugenix, specifically from Dr Arika Bansal. I took the package where she does crucial extraction, 100% of slit making and design of hairline and also the hairline implantation. 

I've been in touch with Dr Arika for couple days and yesterday she assured me for the second time that the angles are ok (after I sent images post using hair trimmer at number 1).  I was asked to not stress about this, and that lot of their patients have had a similar looking head 14 days post op and eventually everything turns out fine. I asked her to share pictures of such patients (with faces blurred ofcourse)  and what their outcome was like, but haven't received anything yet after 12+ hours. 

On my first call with Dr Arika about this issue couple days ago, I told her 10+ people on this forum told me that angles are incorrect, including @Melvin- Moderator (since I had specifically mentioned even the mod of the forum, who got his last procedure done from you, said it appears that angles were poorly placed). She asked me for my username and actually went through the entire thread. She asked me to not worry about forum folks and what they say. She mentioned some other patients of hers also received very negative comments about temple peak construction before on this forum but everything turned out fine. So I shouldn't worry too much about what people say on here. 

Tagging folks who were interested in knowing the clinic name - @JC71 @SadMan2021 @SD1984 @JoeMan @NARMAK @LaserCaps @Fue3361 @Melvin- Moderator

Given that the doctor and clinic is HIGHLY recommended on this forum, I'm curious to hear what folks think my next step should be. Now that you all know the name of the clinic, do you still think I should run for the hills? Should I still get a second consult? Or should I sit tight and see what happens in 6 months from now?

8 minutes ago, SadMan2021 said:

You can certainly seek out the advice of the operating clinic if you want, but they have no incentive to admit any errors on their end. 

Seek out the opinion of a 2nd HT doctor.

Fair enough. Would it be too early to get a second consult though? I figured since most places do free consult they're looking for a patient who's going to get a transplant rather than "potential repair patient 6-8 months from now". 

19 minutes ago, JoeMan said:

My Dr said to wait 5 months before using clippers. 

Yeah that seems to be the traditional wisdom. Although it seems like it's more to prevent infection of scalp on transplanted area than anything else. If the grafts are secure then I don't see why a clipper at 1 or 2 would be an issue. 

3 hours ago, JC71 said:

@jbond007Hope your ok ? Logged back in to see if there had been any update ? Have you spoken to or had a meeting with the clinic yet ? 

Appreciate you checking in. I did have a meeting with the clinic. They said that my transplanted hair has grown a bit so they want me to trim it down using a clipper to see a more uniform look and then determine if the angle still looks off. 

I asked them if using a clipper would be an issue this early, specially because the general guidance is to not get a haircut for three months. The doctor told me the grafts have been set by now so there is no issues with using a clipper. 

I tried using a clipper at number 2 yesterday and tbh it only caught a tiny sliver of my hair and didn't make much of a difference. Now they've asked me to use my clipper at number 1, which I again doubt will make a difference. 

24 minutes ago, BDK081522 said:

Ideally to get an accurate assessment of angles we would need to see pictures post scab removal but before shedding. I have a feeling that the original pictures show grafts that are about to shed. These hairs do usually go in random directions as they transition into from catagen to telogen. I wouldn't write off a good result just yet. Only time will tell but don't lose hope. 

I see. My scabs didn't come off until couple days ago. Was a 3-4 day long process to remove them with daily washes. Keeping that in mind, should I be expecting shedding so soon? Today marks the 14th day. And I feel like all the threads here have talked about shedding occurring in 3rd or 4th week. So are the hairs in original pictures really close to shedding or is it just bad angle placement? 
 

41 minutes ago, JoeMan said:

Some pictures 3-7 days after might be useful. 

Here are some pictures leading up to the day before the first headwash. Some of them might not be very clear but hopefully if you zoom in (especially towards the more filled area on left side) you should be able to see mini grafts and their angles. 

7 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Many recommend a variety of different clinics here, so let's see who it is, I do agree the angles look poorly angled in the photos. Though, I think some better immediate post-op pictures are necessary before saying for sure it's the angles. 

Happy to provide more pictures if it helps confirm mis-placed grafts. When you say immediate post op - is that referring to right after the procedure? Or 2-3 days after? 

1 hour ago, LaserCaps said:

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I do have a question.  How did you choose this clinic? Did you go there because they are close to you? Did you ask the doctor where he learned to do hair restoration? Did the doctor do the surgical part of the procedure? Or was it the techs? What method did they use?

I know there's lot of questions about which clinic etc and some of you might also probably be thinking that I got it done from a sketchy place.

All I will say right now is that it's a very well reputed clinic that's recommended a lot even on this forum. Which is why I'm VERY surprised that they could do something so basic so wrong. The doctor did the hairline design and slit making. The techs did the implantation. 

From what I read, it seems like the angle/direction of hair depends solely on the slits that were made. So I doubt that the techs did anything wrong here.

1 hour ago, Fue3361 said:

It might not end up particularly bad.  Really depends on your hair quality/texture/type.  If you have curly hair for example, it might look absolutely fine.

 

That said,  yeah, looks worrying.

Also, lots of people's hair looks weirdly angled after a while, but this is usually after a month+, at 2 weeks, I'd expect it to hold the same angles that doctor implanted them at. So I doubt those directions will be changing much.

I have very thin fine straight hair. So it won't easy for the weirdly pointed hair to blend in with existing hair. 

1 hour ago, NARMAK said:

The whole "wait till it grows in" phase is sometimes used as a distraction to claim "See, you can just style it like this, and it looks fine(!)" sort of rhetoric. 

This is exactly what I'm worried of. The thing is, even if the results look fine 6 months from now, they did botch up the procedure. And I shouldn't have to compromise with styling my hair because that is not what I signed up for. 

10 minutes ago, NARMAK said:

The angles and the graft placement in direction don't appear to be correct but it's done now and you have to wait a bit for the hair transplant to mature and see what you end up with and what might need to be done. 

Where was the clinic based? I know you don't want to name them yet but a location at least and how you came across them might help users in who might end up in a similar position if they were to have potentially researched in a similar way but come across this before their procedure potentially avoiding a similar fate. 

I'll disclose the clinic for sure very soon, but want to get a consult from them first before I start posting their name. Trust me i dont want anyone to ever go through this. 

On a different note, is there anything you guys suggest I should definitely ask from my doctor? From how I see it - It can only go two ways from here - either they accept responsibility that the grafts are mis-angled, or they try to fool me into believing that everything is as it should be. 

My major concern is that they'll tell me don't worry just wait for the hair to come in 6 months and everything will look fine. I honestly don't know how to respond to that. Have never seen anyone with fully grown hair who initially had bad direction. 

11 minutes ago, JC71 said:

A repair will usually involve a combination of redistribution/camouflaging and then also taking more FUE from the donor area. 

I see. Do you think this has a chance of looking remotely decent once the hair grows out in 5-6 months?

4 minutes ago, JC71 said:

Yes it’s possible for the grafts to be removed/redistributed at a much later date. Unfortunately the only thing you can do now is wait and see how it actually grows out. Some of the best repair guys are Dr Mwamba, Dr Bisanga, Dr Feriduni + @DrTBarghouthiwho may be kind enough to comment here. 

When you say removed - does that mean remove the grafts and get another FUE procedure to fill it in? 

And for redistributed, what does that mean?

1 minute ago, JC71 said:

I don’t think I will be the only one saying don’t go back to the same Dr who did this. Was it the Dr doing the incisions/channel opening step ? 

Yes, the doctor did the slit making. You're probably right, but even if I don't go back to this surgeon, is there a way to get this fixed by any surgeon?

Thanks all. I'll have to wait few hours before I can get a consult with the clinic. But in the meanwhile, is there anything that can be done to fix badly angled hair transplant by the surgeon who did it?

Just now, JC71 said:

From your pics I would have the exact same concerns yes. Please do let the community know the name of the clinic when you can, it’s important to let people know if their are any risks 👍🏽

Thanks! I've been told angles look off by some other folks too. Will share the name when I can, for now I'll share that they're one of the well known names on this forum. If the hair are confirmed to badly placed then I'm frankly surprised and also appalled at how they could get something so basic wrong. 

1 hour ago, JC71 said:

Thanks for posting, who was the clinic ? 

Waiting to get a consult with the clinic before I reveal their name. Do you think that the transplanted hair are badly placed? 

The angles seem very off to me. 

I'm 14 days post op from a 2200 graft procedure. Most of the scabs have fallen off but the resulting direction of hair has me very worried.

From most of the results I see here and on other sites, by 14th day the transplanted hair blends in with the rest of the hair but in my case, the transplanted area sticks out very prominently. 

Attaching some pictures. Would love to get some advice from knowledgeable folks here.