Davidf

Twenty two months later and I think things have turned out ok. Actually, I'm pretty happy with the results to be honest. This is me about six weeks ago Regarding the doc not being around on day three, I wouldn't worry too much, to be honest, as her part will be minimal by day two, as the extractions and implantations will be carried out by techs.

Look 🔍 at the side of your head in your photos! Loads of grey hair there! Embrace the grey, or dye!

Don't know about anyone else, but this review is always the first one I look for when I click on HRN's review page. Drama and comedy combined. Oh, and an excellent (not perfect, but what is?) outcome to boot. Please 🙏 keep those updates coming!

Donor looked fine two years ago, nine months after transplant. Maybe, as you say, you just need to keep it a little longer.

Some more pics may be necessary, but really, looking at the ones you've provided, it doesn't look bad at all. Yes, your hairline is a little high with some temple recession, but I'm guessing a lot of people on this forum would be happy to have what you've got.

Try Manual or OxfordOnlinePharmacy. If you can get a voucher or discount code it should be less than half your previous supply's cost.

I never shaved post HT, so can't offer any insight I'm afraid.

I don't think the technicians had any issues extracting my beard grafts. If they had, nothing was said to me.

No problem. They must have shortened the recommended time .... I'm sure I was told 7 days - I thought I was being a rebel shaving 6 days prior! All the best if you go ahead with your procedure.

If memory serves, I only grew mine for about 6 days before going to Eugenix last year.

I believe he's referring to his earlier (unsuccessful) result in Canada.

Ok. Update time. Last week (Sunday 3rd July) was 4 calendar months since my procedure with Eugenix in March. Overall I'm quite pleased with how things have progressed, especially in the last few weeks. It helps that having kept my hair pretty short for the first 3 months, I've recently refrained from cutting it, other than to tidy it up a little. Quite a few grey hairs have turned up on the scene, but that's hardly surprising as all the hair transplanted to the front of my head came from the sides where I was going grey anyway. Long way to go yet, but as I say I'm happy with how things are progressing for now. All the best 1st two pics are from July 6 (One day short of 18 weeks) Next two are June 6

Welcome back! Thought we'd lost you for a while. You've every right to be delighted with this outcome, and still 3+ months to go. 😁

Hi Rob, Looks like you've discovered the double-edged sword of having low contrast between your scalp and hair colouring. In a few months time this will doubtless be to your benefit, but for now it's probably not helping you appreciate any new hair growth. Hang on in there, my friend, and, before you know it....... Oh, and stay away from mirrors.

C'est magnifique! No other words suffice.

Thanks. I'm actually (relatively) relaxed about everything really. Whatever will be,will be etc. For now I'm happy to be approaching the end of week three without any issues like infections etc. Like yourself, I'll just be waiting it out, for as long as it takes. In your case, your hair characteristics, (blonde, curly) will undoubtedly help on the density front. Congrats on dodging a bullet re your first transplant with Dr Torgerson, by the way. That could have turned out sooo much worse.

I went with the Exclusive package @120 rupees plus 18% tax per graft. I did however ask if Dr Arika might do the design and incisions as she had only recently stopped doing these in this package. The result was a compromise, with her doing the incisions on the hairline only. All told, I received 2415 grafts in the frontal third, including temples. Not a bad number, though I would feel more confident with 4-500 more as I'd expected, in truth. Only time will tell.

Got my fingers crossed for all of us!

Yep. Total grafts: 4410 Crown: 1995 Frontal half inc temples: 2415 Hair count unknown

Ta very much! If I have anything like the progress you've had, my jaw's gonna ache from non-stop smiling!

Hi all @ HRN It's been over a week now since returning from my procedure at Eugenix in Delhi, and having fully recovered from a period of many near sleepless nights, it's now time to stop procrastinating and get on with the business of posting a thread of my experience. Before I start, I've got to say thanks to all those people who made this experience so much easier than it could have been, including, everyone at Eugenix, (many of whose names I didn't get, so I won't name names in case I leave anyone out) as well as all of you good people at HRN who have posted your own threads from which I have gleaned such valuable information. I thank you all. First, some background. I've been aware of my hair loss since I was 17, and judging from the variable rate of progression over the years, it seems reasonable to assume that I actually may have started losing it at least a couple of years prior. I'm now 56, so that's upwards of 40 years of hair loss in all. Way back then, the options available were extremely limited and information even more so. The little I knew of hair transplants sounded gruesome and so I settled for a few years of watching my precious hairs slip down the plughole while I moved my remaining hair around on top of my head to avoid the detection of others of my predicament. Approximately eight years later I became aware of minoxidil for the first time, tried it, didn't like it - it made my (by now) Norwood 2-3 hair feel greasy and generally icky. A few years later I heard of finasteride for the first time, but the potential side effects were less than appealing and there still wasn't much information, so I just accepted my fate. By now I was about 45 and grateful to only be a Norwood 3-4 as my dad and younger brother had all but lost all their hair by 21. Anyway, about 18 months ago my hair loss progression picked up speed again, and, armed with new information courtesy of Google and YouTube etc, I decided to investigate all possibilities and research began in earnest. By January of last year I had started finasteride (generic),also, dutasteride (again, generic) by late March, as well as ketoconazole and microneedling. By June, I had switched to Propecia when I found that my hair loss was still ongoing. After 14 months of using fin, I have yet to see any real benefit. Most people seem to see results, if any, within the first year, but some 'experts' suggest it may take up to 2 years for full results, so here's hoping. Took some pics (in April/May) and emailed them for assessment to, initially, Dr Bruno Ferreira. Never did get a response, other than that he was v busy. Tried others, with varying responses and no progress until a short time later I became aware of Eugenix and their apparent success with higher Norwoods and 'difficult' cases, which I considered myself to be, as I was aware that I had retrograde alopecia and donor that I thought to be mediocre. Again, I sent some photos for evaluation and Eugenix promptly quoted me a figure of 4700 grafts and informed me that I was a Norwood 4. I did suggest that I thought my graft requirements might be greater, (up to 6000) as I considered myself to be a Norwood 5 by now, but was told that the doctors felt that the number of grafts quoted was sufficient. Due to the ongoing issues with international travel (and particularly regarding India), as well as waiting on Eugenix's London consultations (that didn't happen in the end) I didn't get to book my procedure until early January, with dates set for March 1st and 2nd. Thanks to the feedback of Berba11 and others my dealings with the Indian Visa and Consular Application Centre could have been much worse. Only a two hour wait in the centre itself, several unanswered emails after they requested extra information a few days later, another trip back to the centre with aforementioned paperwork, and the very next day, a belated response to my emails, and my passport returned two days later. A mere sixteen days in all, but at least I had known what to expect. Finally, two weeks later I was in Delhi, staying at the Hilton, a fifteen minute walk from the Eugenix clinic. Had my blood tests done after breakfast on my first day after having slept for just a couple of hours that morning. This inability to sleep became a pattern for the week. Fortunately, adrenaline got me through this period, and I seem to have done nothing but sleep since my return home. Next day I reported for duty at 11am. Had all the expected things done, pre-op photos taken, blood taken for PRP etc, and met Dr Arika for the first time when she came in to do the hairline design. This last part was brief, as expected, when she basically drew two semi circular lines across my forehead, letting me choose which one I was happier with and said it was 7cm from glabella to hairline. I've since measured it myself and found it to be closer to 8cm, but, as someone who hasn't had a proper hairline in almost 20 years I was just glad to potentially have anything approaching 'normal'. She also asked me what my overall density aspirations were, to which I responded "good density at the front" and that I was less concerned with the crown. She agreed and suggested that I could be confident that I would obtain this from the procedure. And with that she was gone, returning again a little later to do the hairline slits. If memory serves, Eugenix could have had up to 3 other guys having their procedures done that morning, so I'm sure she was incredibly busy. At some point, (I forget exactly when) I realised that my temple points hadn't been included in the pre-op designs or been worked on at any time. I was told that this was because they considered that I still had reasonable temple points/peaks and they didn't plan on working on them. I disagreed as I could only see about 12 hairs on my right temple and fewer still on my left. Eventually, it was decided that I could have some grafts added to my TPs - over 200 to each one in the end. The bulk of the remaining slits were done by another doctor who introduced herself as Dr P (sorry, I didn't catch the name) and, if memory serves, everything was complete by about 6pm. Initially it was meant to be a two day procedure but it was suggested that doing everything over 3 days would make it a less strenuous experience. At first I had reservations, (losing a day's recovery at the hotel etc) but it turned out to be the right move as the next two days turned out to be eight and nine hours long respectively and obviously would have been longer still had the slits and the pre-ops not been done the previous day. Day two was all about extractions and implantations and was a much more painful affair. This I found surprising as so many people had said they had slept through parts of the procedure. It was only when I returned home that I was reminded of my skin's sensitivity to hot water when showering, razor burn when I shave, etc. The price of having pasty white skin I suppose. At the end of the day the front part of my head had been done and I couldn't wait to get back to the hotel to sleep. Again, that didn't really happen. I think I got about 3 and a half hours that night. When I got back to the hotel, one of the first things I did was to check everything looked alright in the mirror. For the most part it was, except for two pea sized spots in my hairline that looked like they had been missed. I was also aware that a strip of hair running from side to side in my midscalp had not been shaved down as much as most of the rest of my hair. Day three - again all extractions and implantations, but this time on the crown, behind the under shaven bit. I made a point of enquiring about these two worrisome elements of my previous day's procedure, to be told that the two spots left devoid of grafts were due to me having a mole in each spot and that the strip hadn't been shaved down because it was thought that there was enough hair remaining there, and that to implant nearby might cause shock loss. Fair enough, regarding the moles (I hadn't even noticed, despite having little to no hair there for so long), though I was disappointed regarding the strip as I didn't think that there was a lot of hair in that area to begin with and if the finasteride doesn't kick in asap there may soon be next to none there. Ok, I guess, though I wish someone had said something about these issues before I left the clinic, instead of me only finding out the next day. Back in the OR, things were somewhat more painful than I would have liked, with anaesthesia being reapplied several times. At least the beard extractions weren't so bad, probably because there were only 500 in all. Finally, by 6pm (9am start) it was over and I could return to the hotel and relax for a couple of days before returning home. I did of course go back to the clinic on those days for a headwash and to ask some questions, such as whether they really thought that I had enough grafts implanted in the front half of my head (2,415 including temples, 1,973 excluding) and was told that they thought I had. Not quite so confident myself as I've since seen other Eugenix patients have upwards of 2500 excluding temples and over smaller areas. Obviously everyone's different - different head sizes etc, so I guess I'll just have to wait it out. Anyway, that's it. Apologies for rambling on, especially as it was only meant to be a summary - and I didn't even mention meeting Dr Pradeep! Suffice to say, he's everything everyone says he is - his enthusiasm is quite infectious. All in all, they are a great team at Eugenix and I wouldn't discourage anyone from going there. Feel free to ask questions - I'm sure I've left something out, I frequently do. Pics are: 2 X pre procedure. 2 X day 1 1 X day 7 1x day 12

Lookin' good!

If it helps, I've just had my blood tests done by someone on behalf of Eugenix in the last half hour. In the DoubleTrees Hilton hotel down the road from the Eugenix clinic. Took 5 minutes, cost 3200 rupees. Of course, there's a risk that if there's a serious issue, you could go to a lot of effort and travel a long way for nothing.

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That's what I thought initially, but when the Eugenix rep asked me for my details for the medical visa application, he also asked me for the address of the Indian Consulate (a different building in London which doesn't, as far as I know, handle visa applications) and inserted it in the application letter.