Bandit90

For me I really wanted the  ability to wear a fade cut, therefore, a FUE/BHT combo was the only way forward for me.  This approach also felt more risk-adverse to me, as I went in the with mindset, it it failed I could just smp and shave (without fear of a linear scar). FUE/BHT  worked for me, but I had good beard to supplement. For someone who is comfortable with having there hair long on the back, there is no denying FUT is a great way to max scalp grafts. But I think FUT downfall in demand lies in that the majority of males in there 20s & 30s want the ability to have short hair on the back and sides.

I don't wish to get caught up in any semantics, nor add to any. But I just want to share my experience to @DeltaV regarding the lateral hump. I, too encountered a similar issue with the lateral hump on side after my first pass (I did document this during my final update before my second procedure - see first picture). I put this down to it just being far too many grafts required to completely fix everything in one pass. The positive news for me is that is was completely addressed during my second pass and does looks very good now. I don't want to spice anything up here, I just purely want to give you my take to a similar situation I found myself in. 

1 hour ago, Zoomster said:

Closing in nicely ..even in last couple of weeks 

24 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

This last picture shows some good blending. I expect as more scalp hair grows, it will blend even more. Very excited to see your transformation. 

Cheers Gents! Slowly but surely getting there. Hopefully have a crown like yours if all grows well 🙏

1 hour ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

John,

Your crown is growing in excellent. Im interested to see how it looks blow dried and combed back. I think this is gonna give you the most illusion of density. 

100% been doing this to be honest and does very good. The first photo is of the hair combed back at the time of doing the update above. 

1 hour ago, Xanadu said:

I wonder if Melvin's fade would further improve this? Maybe Melvin you can comment?

What I have been doing to be honest. Second picture was just after I had a hair cut last week to give you an idea. 

1 hour ago, hairman22 said:

you have great results overall.

but those dark hairs in the crown dont look fully natural yet.

if you had same color hairs in your scalp hair it would work better.

but if you get more scalp donor hair in your crown it will help i think or just use toppik & its good too

Was very much the case with the front that you could see the beard hair, but all has just seemed to blend in nicely after a while, expecting the same with the crown to be honest given it's is similar beard to scalp ratio.

On 4/18/2023 at 4:05 AM, aa1888 said:

Looks really great!, I kinda have the same type of hair loss and the flat top head shape. I've been lurking around in this forum to see if I have any hope and you have certainly ignited the light. 

I have started the big 3 (fin,min and derm roller). I already see progress especially mid scalp section. 

I wish you good luck 👍mate and i hope to follow suit soon inshallah 🙏. 

 

Will following your progress 👍. 

Fantastic to hear! Very wise to start on the medication and i'm sure should you have surgery in future taking medications like finasteride will really benefit your outcome! Good Luck with your journey! 

Your level of balding and hair characteristics are very similar to  @paddyirishman  who underwent a hair transplant a few years back at Eugenix. Worth checking out his thread for sure!    

Damm Adam - so much hair for only six months. Just imagine how good this is going to look in another six months. I called it 2023 HOF! 

I can see the density beginning to improve for sure! The next couple of months is where the magic will happen. Also I wouldn't focus too much on comparing to your pre-surgery pics (just yet!) , I say this because you had quite a bit of length then, whereas now it is comparably much shorter, as you buzzed down for surgery. I would say everything looks right on track, and is very much following the process typical of a typical Eugenix transplant. I will be following your case quite closely, as we have quite similar hair characteristics, plus I intend to do a density sitting in 12 months time, so nice to gauge expectations. Donor-wise don't stress too much. you are only at 3 months and need to give yourself at least six for it to recover (reading Karl's & Melvin threads will give you the reassurances needed). Cheers for update! 

Everything looks on track! Should be a fun summer for you watching all those grafts grow in! I'll be following this journey, happy growing! 

7 hours ago, MazAB said:

No credit necessary Karl😁. I'm just belated at the great results of yours and others that took their tours at Eugenix. My joy is truly seeing everyone else's, and if I had even a small positive impact it was all worth it my man!

Agreed Armen is the MAN! His suggestions always pay dividends! 

2 hours ago, Zoomster said:

John just for your own peace of mind ..all your grafts on the right side are in action and alive and well ..all that’s missing is the growth ,thickening,maturing and shingling effect that the crown area needs more than any other location on the scalp .

For perspective..if I buzzed my crown down to say a #1 I’d say it wouldn’t look much different to how your right side looks ..

The real beauty of all this is that deep down you know all this already ..

Its gonna be great to witness over the coming months ..

Cheers Karl Always reassuring to read, especially given you have been through the process! 

1 hour ago, Rafael Manelli said:

This site is quickly becoming dominated by Eugenix poster childs! (not in a bad way. Just so many huge success stories.) 

It is a fair observation, i've noticed it too. For higher norwoods Eugenix do seem to be able to consistently knock it out the park. I tend to notice that the bigger wow-factor results are generally from higher norwood restorations, so just by eugenix nature of doing higher norwood patients they are going have more poster boy/wow results. I guess they are a big fish in a small pond of clinics that have the capabilities to do giga-sessions. 

15 minutes ago, Gatsby said:

John that crown is closing in dramatically. For only six months I can’t wait to see it in another six months! 👏👏👏👏

Cheers Adrian bud! You,Melvin and Karl have certainly set my expectations high when it comes to the crown lol! 

Epic Karl, what dreams are made of!  This is the result, that just keeps giving!  The decision to do the widdows peak really was a masterstroke and along with the temples, really just put the icing on cake on what has been a fantastic journey. You really where the person that made all us high norwoods think the impossible is possible.. and you continue to keep doing so! 

13 Month/6 Month Crown Update 

Just posting an update on the crown given I’m at the six-month mark.  I feel like there has been a lot of growth occurring over the past month. But I am finding that the left side is growing and maturing quicker than the right side, hopefully, it will soon catch up. For the update, I combed the front forward to better show the crown, but in reality, I’m slicking this hair back, which is providing good coverage. I

11 hours ago, SLA said:

"very little detection of having a hair transplant"? How about no detection of having a hair transplant!

Simply remarkable, @Bandit90. Such an inspiration to so many and great to see this blossom.

In our 5 short months since we've met in India for our unforgettable trip, it is great to see how your affect has turned super bright as now the full coverage is beginning to emerge.

 

Cheers Adam! Hard to believe it was over five months since we where in India! I cant wait to see where you will be in seven months time, especially as your month five update is just mind blowing! You going to be in 2023 Hall of Fame that is for sure! 

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23 minutes ago, GeneralNorwood said:

Maybe don't worry so much about clinics, they will be fine, trust me 😂

Hair Restoration Social Network is forum "Created by and for patients". Maybe it's a slogan, but i like to belive in it. I know that some of you had great experience with particular clinics, everything was friendly, results are astonishing etc. But it doesn't mean that you have to defend clinics, they are not your friends, be sure of that. 

If you don't want to critique particular clinic's other patient case, because you personally had great experience, perhaps a better choice is diplomatic silence instead of being overdefensive. That doesn't mean that nobody can provide argument in favor of clinic, feel free to do so if you have solid point 

But some posts in my topic, like yours, seem to me overdefensive in favor of clinic and this posts are going in wrong direction. Because why do you care so much if Dr Pradeep, Dr Bisanga or any other doctor will be pleased? I personally can better identify with other patients then clinics, because i know what fighting with hairloss looks like. 

Yes, i am genuinely seeking a good looking natural end result. I started my story here on hairrastoration and on polish forum too. I have to be transparent with other patients, so they can benefit from my experience and i can benefit too, upon reading advices from other members.

Care more about the patients, less about the clinics. 

I'm not worrying bro. 

Think you're preaching to the wrong guy bud! I've helped my fair share of dudes this past twelve months, my HRN inbox and Instagram page are full of people i've helped and even been thanked on several  HRN threads for doing so.

Anyways, good luck with your journey

2 minutes ago, GeneralNorwood said:

This is true that Dr Das said that she has hope of further improving with finasteride, but i was already more then 1 year on finasteride and i was like "this is as good as it gets. So there was no such hope in me, personally. 

I am on dut 0.5 mg daily since september 2022, so half year. 

During today's videoconference, Dr Das emphasized some hopes for further use of dutasteride. And again, i can't connect with this hopes, because i am already 2 years on DHT blockers and it is what it is. There are some studies that show that dutasteride has better effect on hair then finasteride, but it is only around 10% more effective. We can't expect that this miniaturised, thin, light colored hair will become terminal hair. 

 

To give you full perspective, when i came to conference room in Hotel Marriott, Dr Bisanga was sitting in front of the computer. I shook hands with him and started filling some form from BHR. Then Dr Bisanga asked me "what is my goal here today?". Keep in mind that i was facing him, so he saw only front of the hair, so at that time maybe my goal wasn't obvious. 

I told that i want him to evaluate my HT. He was like "Our job is not to evaluate other's clinic work, son". But then he stood up and started to look at my scalp. He noticed what's going on and asked if i give the permission to record, because he is teaching young doctors about HT and he wants to show this case to them. 

That was free consultation and it lasted around 30 minutes, we had to finish because other oeople were waiting. Later i was waiting for friend from polish forum, who also had consultation with Dr Bisanga. His consultation lasted only 5 minutes. His case was kind of botched job from turkish clinic with depleted donor and wrong shape of harline. But apparently,  Dr Bisanga didn't think it is worth recording. 

I don't think it's "tactic" to compete with Eugenix. You know only about this consultation because of me. Even if Dr Bisanga decides to publish this video online, i am sure he won't be disclosing clinic's name. Dr Sethi also publishes videos when he points out mistakes in hairtransplant. Furthermore, Dr Bisanga, Dr Sethi and Dr Arika, they know each other and from what i know, they are in good relationship. 

Yeah, the thing is that i like wearing my beard, so first of all i don't want to overharvest it. 2500 is much and i think your beard is more dense. 

Me personally think another pass at Eugenix you would have looked great. But I look forward in seeing how Dr Bisanga takes this case forward. Docs might have a good professional relationship, but Hair Restoration is a business, and you saying that one clinic was filming vids (whether for educational purposes not) about another clinic with strong criticisms is never going to down well on both sides. I can't imagine Dr Pradeep will be best pleased about it nor will Dr Bisanga be pleased your outing his criticisms on a public domain viewed by other docs, which where likely said in confidence between you both during a private consult. I'm not having a dig at you here btw, I know you are genuinely seeking a good looking natural end result. 

Looking back at your thread, I do feel at your first sitting there was possibly a bit of hope that the meds would rescue the tonne of miniaturised hair you have. I can see the doctors logic by not wanting to implant in area where there is lots of miniaturised hair and risk permanent shock loss. I don't think it looks as bad as you think. Now that you have given yourself a year on dut and there has been no improvement to the miniaturised hair, I think now you can now formulate a solid plan and work on the basis it wont recover. 

Though I have a huge respect for Dr Bisanga, I personally don't agree with some his sentiments i.e about your temple looking unnatural (I think it looks really natural). Also him wanting to do a video on you titled "how not to make  HT in Caucasian male".  To me there feels an air of trying to do one over a competitor clinic here, a very extreme/unnecessary tactic, when in reality your result is only at pass one out of two passes . 

Looking at your hair characteristics they are close to mine, beard included. I honest think that adding your remaining scalp grafts with 2500 beard you will honestly look great. I know you didn't factor in a two stage plan (or was led to believe you would need one), but I think you goals will be met. 

Very impressive! Like how he has replicated the offset crown whirl so well!

1 hour ago, Rafael Manelli said:

It looks like the crown is just beginning to fill in. Almost 5 months right?

Speaking about whether to lower the hairline or fill in weak spots, I don’t even know if you will have any weak spots after 6 more months. Certainly it’s possible to get a widows peak as you say.

Your lateral humps now look like the thickest part of your scalp. They are untouched. I guess that’s dr Pradeep’s donor management since those humps are the most vulnerable area to thinning compared to the deeper parts of the donor. Still, I wonder if he’d consider using them in the future if they seem stable.

but there is no rush. If you get yourself into a position you’re happy with, you don’t have to use those grafts preemptively. You can just wait and see how it goes and react accordingly. You might even remain stable for good now.

Anyway, looks like a proper flagship result for Eugenix.

Many Thanks Rafael, yes just short of five months with the crown! They did actually take from below the lateral humps area on my first sitting (they utilised most of my donor area), so reassuring to see how thick it is looking now, also a good sign that the finasterisde is working to keep the area stable. Be interesting to assess where I am in six months and understand if third sitting is necessary, or just pure greed. 

1 hour ago, Berba11 said:

Such an insane result John!

Personally I wouldn’t touch your hairline. It’s absolutely spot on where it is and I’d you do have some extra grafts in the bank, I’d be adding density to any weaker spots once you’ve seen the full results in the crown. But that’s just me!

Cheers Ryan bud! You're probably right tbh, a third pass to focus on the density will most probably be what i'll do (should I need). 

Month 12 Update.

So it’s been exactly a year since I had my Hair Transplant at Eugenix in March 2022. It’s quite hard to put into words how I feel, but it has just been a pleasure to see my hair grow back. There are often moments where I just stand in front of the mirror shaking my head with amazement, and questioning if this is all a dream. I didn’t realise how much impact baldness had on many areas of my life until I reflect and compare it. But I have certainly gained more confidence now from looking at my age.   

I want to offer my highest thanks to Dr Sethi and the Eugenix team, when I first contacted the clinic in late 2020, I had come off from a bruising from a good few forum recommended Doctors, who told me that I was not a candidate for a hair transplant and destined me to a life of baldness. But credit to Eugenix they just don’t find problems and gave me the reassurance I could achieve a good result. So I hope my results go a long way for gents who have been denied a shot a surgery, that it is possible in the hands of a capable clinic.

Results-wise, the front and mid-scalp have reached their peak. But the decision by Dr Sethi to put grafts behind the temples and above the humps in the second sitting is paying off. It allows me to pull off a parting style, which was always the style I wanted to do. The crown is starting to fill in and each month, I’m seeing less and less scalp. The donor just continues to blow my mind, being an NW7 my biggest fear was a patchy-looking donor, but 5.8K scalp grafts later I’m getting my hair cut with 1 guard with very little detection of a transplant.

Going forward, I’ll probably use this as my last update for the front and mid-scalp, as you can see there isn’t a whole lot of change happening now. Given the success so far I do keep flirting with the idea of slightly lowering the hairline and maybe getting a widow's peak, so a third sitting next year could well be on the cards, but need to give the crown 12 months before pulling the trigger.  

4 hours ago, aaalan said:

I hear you and can relate!! 
inclusion and diversity come in many forms… gender race color gets the limelight and appreciation… but there a subtle form of exclusion here that remains under appreciated.

100% The Simspons nail this quite well on the episode titled 'Simpson and Delilah'. Portrays all the clichés of being a bald man who goes on to get hair. Even more hilarious that they call the hair loss medicine 'Dimoxinil'. A well worth watch if you haven't already!