TheGreatPretender

I believe most consensus is that after a week grafts should be fully safe and anchored. The 3/4 day period as per my understanding can be the fibrin keeping the follicles "glued" to the scalp itself but the vascularization might not be fully complete. Personally I feel that around day 5 I was fully healed and stopped requiring painkillers to alleviate my post operative headaches but I kept being careful until day 9 which was when I got all my scabs off.

Don't worry. You haven't lost anything. I popped in a pimple aswell way earlier then you and no hairs fell as a result. The ones nearby staid for a week after the incident and started growing a month later. Follicles should be safe starting day 8.

As I said earlier might be worth checking with the airlines if they are able to acomodate you with assistance. This will help you bypass checkpoints while having someone carrying you via wheelchair if needed. I knew the day post surgery would be a pain in the but especially moving around a big airport so I asked them to provide me and it helped me alot especially in the Amsterdam airport that is massive as hell. I really thought about it out of the box and minimized every possible risk post surgery and it payed off every single way.

There's not much difference between brands IMO. Just go with the cheapest and you're set unless you're alergic to any ingredients within the package which is highly unlikely. When I was taking Finasteride I used both Accord and Milpharm brands from Simple Online Pharmacy, both worked just as good.

Its looking better and better by the day. Perhaps you won't really need a second go with the amount you got back, absolutely stunning result.

Month 5 currently (no haven't posted it since I want to take this privately for now) got all crusts off around the end of day 9. I blew a pimple around day 11 and panicked a little but saw no hairs falling fortunately. 2 months later I just sent a picture of it to my clinic and they told me there was 0 need to worry since the grafts are 100% safe around day 8. I probably had some encysted hairs (as the clinic mentioned these are the cause of pimples) but the grafts underneath were fully safe.

After 7 days you're pretty much on the clear. The fibrin that is underneath your scalp should have already "glued" the folicles to your head around day 3 or 4 and the vascularization proccess should be complete after the 7th. There's no way to dislodge a graft around that time mate, you're fine.

Since I decided the journey to be private it was best to keep it for myself on the time being so I ended up not creating a topic.

Man this is amazing! Congratulations man, you finally beat the disease.🏆 I am not halfway yeat but I think Im on my way out of it too, hopefully things can get even better at month 6 for myself.

Looks natural, congrats. Its been quite a while indeed.🙂

Well if you rather be lost in ignorance using broscience then fine. Do like your buddy Jay does and keep fearmongering people into a lifetime of bald misery and depression. The only true part of that statement is the first half which its fair to acknowledge as being true. The second part howeaver lacks evidence and any basic reasoning. And NO YOU CAN'T 100% assume it was Finasteride since the drug is washed out of the system if we are talking about years after cessation. And once again you completly ignore the fact that lots of people get all these symptoms without taking the pill, how sure you are that the person wouldn't have gotten that same "side effects" without even taking the drug in the first place? As per the last part, I am not thinking anything merely suggesting possible causes that may not have been ruled out and dont worry about the religious part since i'm an atheist so no gods came into equasion when building my logic. Merely two factors, one is science and the other one is reality.

I am looking at a medication that is meant to block the 5AR enzyme, therefore my focus will be the enzyme levels and not anything else that the medication will touch on. But sure, lets go with "SEE! LOOK! It returned to normal, BUT LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER THOUSANDS OF HORMONES, SURELY IT HAD AN IMPACT, TRUST ME BRO!" level of literacy just like our pal Jay. I hope you're not trying to claim his place as the most literate individual around the entire world and perhaps just maybe the universe itself. Next time I have a problem I might as well consult with him instead of going to a hair loss surgeon or dermatologist. That way I may get bald earlier and get all the wonderfull signs of depression and ED the PFS network loves to talk about. Perhaps one good study that could potencialy be done in order for the fearmongers to fully prove their point could be comparing two large groups of the so called "PFS patients" with healthy control group so in a way you could compare someone who took Finasteride and ended up with Sexual Disfunction AND/OR depression comparing with someone who already got these symptoms without having taken a pill. Is the suicidal tendency different between those two groups? Are the hormonal levels different in any way such as the famous "neurosteroids" that people love to talk about? If the above questions would be "Yes" then maybe there could be a basis. MAYBE. Some of the questions that could further elaborate if this "alledged" condition has any bearing in reality when reality itself points out being as real as conspiracy theory. But we know all damm well that most results will end up returning the same as the drug is washed out of the person's system. And as such all doctors if not most will resort to the correlation not equaling causation.

Any abnormal hormonal changes that would be permanent due to Finasteride would support their claims but then again you just slipped into one of the reasons why I don't believe on it since it is well known that the majority of people have their 5-AR enzyme return to baseline levels after discontinuating.

Enough trials with a large amount of subjects that alegedly suffer from the condition with proper blood test results. The same subjects would also have to be tested against any other possible conditions which they could have. But that is me, perhaps a PHD level doctor would provide you a better answer or maybe our iliterate specialist that is allegedly more knowledfull then the overwealming majority of doctors that studied upon the subject.

And yet decades after the aproval of Finasteride for Hair Loss no definitive evidence has been found for Post Finasteride Syndrome. You can use as many alegories as you'd like, fact still stands.

For you maybe. But it doesn't really take away the fact that evidence directly marking the drug as the causing agent is scarce and not scientifically acknowledged by the overwealming majority of doctors. Regardless of the reason why you think this happens that remains the only fact and you can do with it as you will. And I say this once again many times when we get health issues we aren't really predicting these very things to happen to us and they still do. If you are taking a pill while they happen its easier to blame on it then on anything else. Some fearmongers from propeciahelp even say that something as light as Saw Palmetto gave them Post Finasteride Symdrome. Anyone can say watheaver they want on the internet, that doesn't still make it true. There are people literally claiming to have PFS after taking a single pill of Finasteride which sounds even more ridiculous.

If the person gets persistent symptoms after discontinuing the treatment it likely means they would have gotten the very same symptoms without having used the drug, period. People can get health issues out of no where independently of starting or stopping a drug and nocebo is also a factor take into account. If you believe you will get permanent side effects you most likely will, especially if you start believing in people who got them due to the drug itself. What I mean is for example Finasteride induced ED ends after the drug discontinuation but that doesn't mean the person is free from not getting it due to other factors such as poor diet, schedule, lack of sleep or any other health related issues. Also bear in mind some issues can also be mental via nocebo. Finasteride may exacerbate the symptom itself if the person is sensitive to the side effects but upon discontinuation that factor pretty much disappears and the hormone levels return to baseline. If the side effects continue then you very likely have other issues that have been undiagnosed. You do understand that normal people can also get symptoms (similar to Finasteride related side effects) without ever taking the drug right?

If they continued after cessation? Yes absolutely, even more so if the individual had been on the drug for a number of years. As said before, correlation doesn't always mean causation.

In my opinion the existence of PFS isn't scientifically proven and as such not enough evidence supports it's existence according to the overwhelming majority of doctors, as such I don't believe it exists, simple as that. People who experience side effects years after getting off the drug are likely to have other health issues that may have led to them blaming on Fin or may have fallen into nocebo. It's hard to categorize all of them into one spectrum but I am 100% skeptical regarding permanent side effects on Finasteride.

What is criminal is people that are way stupid such as yourself to understand the simple fact that they have zero arguments to prove something which is fictitious and a conspiracy theory that is ultimately non existent based off science. You are at the pinnacle of illiteracy to place yourself in such a high pedestal to decide wether the data is good or not. Why in the hell didn't we heard about post Finasteride syndrom in the 90s? Care to explain? What I find it hilarious is that you contradicted yourself once again by agreeing with me regarding clinical evidence on PFS but then you quickly rushed and once again went for the "oh but wait! There's thousands of people claiming that it happened to them!" Anyone can go and say anything they want on the internet. I can also claim the earth is flat, in fact millions of people still do and that wouldn't make it true so that statement is also invalid and illiterate. Mental illness is a possibility and as the study pointed circunstancial evidence exists for alleged PFS sufferers. And once again I tell you that correlation doesn't always equal causation and factors such as other conditions have to be considered rather then blaming it all on the drug which doesn't necessarily have to be mental as it can be anything. It's way too easy to blame everything on the pill when in reality you could have the said condition without even taking it on the first place. But sure, let's go with doctors are r**, PFS exists and you should be the PHD doctor with years of research into the field instead since you're the most literate person on the planet. Because of people like you anyone coming to this thread wanting to start medication will feel paralysed and afraid to even give himself the chance of saving their hair and run the risk of having a lifetime full of isolation and depression.

I started 3 days after the transplant.

Honestly to me De Freitas is the superior choice which is why I went with him but both are good doctors as far as I know. You should make your own evaluation and see which one suits your needs since everyone is different. I would still avoid Turkey overall and consider Europe aswell, especially if you got the budget for it.

Condescending? More like ignorant, most of all without any basis in reality or as you'd say "braindead". Its also funny how much lack of respect you show to the rest of the forum by calling us "iliterates" pretending that knowledge lies solely with anyone bearing your opinions. I gave the food example merely as a metaphor since there are people around the world that also claim that things like Fluoride gave them side effects and are against taking Colgate, yes this is real check this: https://fluoridealert.org/issues/health/ But in truth there's people who died for eating peanutbutter for being alergic to the ingredient, should everyone stop eating it just because few had negative reactions while eating it? Finasteride as far as we know didn't really cause any deaths directly to any patient as far as we know. You want the opinion of PHD doctors regarding studies here you have it and I quote: And I will say this once more, no drug in the world comes without the risk of side effects, thats a fact. Howeaver Finasteride and Dutasteride have been used by millions for an eternity and they have a very good safety profile already made with all subjects recovering from them upon cessation or letting the body adjust to it. I don't need to place the studies that have been approved from Merk which led to the FDA approval. And regarding the importance of DHT this one should actually lay everything to rest. You can talk everything you'd like but the scientific comunity hasn't really acknowledged much use of the hormone itself after the individual finishes puberty. But just because you have side effects it doesn't mean it is because of the lack of DHT, correlation doesn't always equal causation since its highly possible (and likely) your body converts T into Estrogen with the patient being more sensitive to the hormone itself. The studies Goli (no disrespect to him) placed are all unfinished and do not prove anything, I could also post one that links DHT to heart disease but I don't because the evidence is still scarce, same goes for the importance on the DHT. So in a nutshell there are four things we can conclude: Evidence for the existence of PFS is scarce and not scientificaly acknowledged as a whole. Evidence for the importance of DHT in adulthood is scarce and not scientifically acknowledged as a whole. Evidence for DHT causing Prostate Growth is high and acknowledged by the scientific community and several doctors and urologists. Evidence for DHT causing MPB are well acknowledged by the scientific community and several doctors and dermatologists. Do with it what you will but next time please don't come here fearmonger and insult other people's inteligence because you hold yourself in a higher pedestal. Other people aren't to blame over your iliteracy.

Some interesting names surficing in the last few years like doctor Manish or Reddy who worked on Harley Clinic. Others have been longer in the game like the doctor from Maitland Clinic (forgetting his name) and Farjo. To me though you're still better going in Europe as the general quality imo is lower even then the US that has Feller & Bloxham, Hasson & Wong etc. For price and efficacy Europe is still the place to go with Belgium, Portugal and Spain leading. I speak as a UK resident who reesearched it for ages and was even at one point thinking about having it here.

I don't think there is any chance you completely lost the follicle. They should be fully safe after 7 days more or less. The grafts after transplantation are held via fibrin in your scalp so you should be fine.