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Just now, Melvin- Moderator said:

Why are you bumping old threads? Definitely odd, and comes off like you have an agenda. You already have a thread to discuss your concerns.

What ? ?

You mean that we are not allowed to comment old threads even they are linked to our own topic ??? If yes, please tell us now.

Man, what kind of "good thinking" propaganda are you trying to put in place on the forum ? I thought that it was supposed to be a place of free speech where we can express different opinions.

I lived in China for many years, thus my user name, and your way to try to denigrate and accuse members who ask questions you dislike remember me of the CCP's online police ... It's ridiculous you "accuse" me of having an agenda. I'm just trying to gather as much info and make my own opinion about a specific surgeon and you are trying to block me from doing that it seems.

By behaving so irrationally, you are also ruining your credibility and that of the forum at the same time.

We are supposed to help each others here, not go against each others.

34 minutes ago, aaron1234 said:

I noticed you haven't looked at either @1978matt first two rounds or @Spanker, both have very dense hairline results.  I've seen Spanker in person a number of times and his hairline is nothing short of Hollywood.  Keep in mind the hairline density of each individual varies because we all bring unique hair characteristics and NW levels to the table.  As a NW5-6 I will not achieve the same hairline density as the aforementioned cases.  Adjust your expectations accordingly.

Thank you and indeed @1978matt 's resultts are great. For Spanker I remember I saw his case photos but cannot find them right now. Thanks to confirm that yu met him and that he had great results and i have no doubt that there are some many more.

Also thanks for reminding that indeed everyone's characteristics will give different results. So true !

17 minutes ago, makehairgreatagain said:

Here's my story for you to see, he also did my hairline but I didn't document it. 

 

Have you contacted his office for a consultation and to see more results? Who are you benchmarking him against?c

Thanks for sharing your case, and congratulations you have a nice hairline ! Although to be frank the result would be less spectacular if you had black hair.

I plan to contact Dr. K once I make up my mind in August / September. I don't plan to ask him for more results as his website and this forum already offer tons of them.

In my opinion, the 2 surgeons who have the best results are Konior ( despite all my questions ) and Bisanga. The sensitive point for me is the hairline, but it's really hard to find some specific surgeons' members cases which have constant great results.  

I'm not looking to have hair like when I was 14 of course. We all know that it is not possible. But a natural looking hairline with good density.

On 10/13/2020 at 4:28 AM, whattheFUE said:

I was referring to Couto's patient's posting their results on recuperarelpelo. I haven't bothered viewing his youtube videos because, well, they're posted by him.

We'll just have to have different opinions on Konior. I certainly think the Konior/Lorenzo area changed what we all thought was possible with hair transplantation. I am referring to the rarity of his patient posted results over the last few years when I search by date. The proof is in the pudding, and the only real pudding we have is from patient submissions.

I would be curious to hear the rankings of others.

I kind of agree with you. Although there are many Konior patients cases if you scroll back in the passed years, what intrigues me is the difference of hairline quality in the cases published by Dr. K's office and the cases published by members themselves.

I created a post listing quite many Dr. K patients cases, which don't impress me. Again, that's only my opinion : 

17 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

The pattern is clear as day, and I posted receipts. Genuine prospective patients do not behave like you, either you like the work or you don’t. There are several clinics to choose from and a way to question things without throwing digs at genuine patient reviews. There’s absolutely no need to post digs on patient threads, and yes they are digs and well-evidenced by your posting history above. 

Here’s an example, he didn’t go and start throwing digs at every Konior patients thread.

All in all, you bring no value to the community, quite the opposite in fact. Patients who are actually sharing their experience won’t want to come back and defend themselves. Saying your digs are of value is laughable. You don’t have to care about my warnings, but you do have to adhere to them or you’ll be gone. Posting is a privilege, not a right.

onwards and upwards,

I'm not sure why my  Post was published on this discussion...

Is it a problem to expose freely our opinion regarding some surgeons's cases by discussing concrete facts ?

I published 1 post and did 1 or 2 remarks regarding some Konior patients cases, and it seems I am being accused of "throwing digs at every Konior patients thread". That seems ridiculous and over reacted.

We all have different perception from the different cases and we all the right to express, in the respect of others, I believe without starting to point at others users.

On 7/14/2021 at 6:53 PM, Melvin- Moderator said:

I would say the opposite, his cases are often beyond successful on this site. A recent case @MagnificentAlcomes to mind. Also @Tao @aaron1234@makehairgreatagain there are too many to list. 

Please remember that I am only talking about the natural aspect and density of the hairline, not the crown or the other area.

I would do the following comments about the successful cases you mention :

@MagnificentAl Impressive resultats ! Althought he probably has thicker hair than average caucasians  

@Tao excellent longevity of the grafts over 10 years, but no pics of the hairline base

@aaron1234 Good result but Konior only helped refill the hairline created by Shapito it seems. Also, he is blond and photo of the hairline would deserve to be more clear

@makehairgreatagain Can't find his case. 

On my side I found the following cases for which I feel the hairline is not a success :

Good hairline structure but way too low density

Good hairline structure but not great density at 5 month

2 years. Low density

low density

low density

Also, there are quite some cases for which the photos don't allow to appreciate well the hairline quality. Even this is the most sensitive and valuable part in a HT :

can't see well the hairline

can't see well the hairline

photo not clear. Not caucasian

angle of hairline photo from up to down, not clear

Again, I'm not here to say bad things about Dr. Konior. I have actually no doubt that that he is a very experienced and a honest doctor. 

But I just want to have others member's reaction about what I perceive, which is that the quality of the hairline cases published by Dr. Konior on the forum and on his website are just outstanding but that there is quite a gap with the Member's cases published here.

Hey guys,

I am considering to go with Konior for a FUT someday even if the waiting list is long.

His results for hairline exposed on his website are just amazing. They look natural and very dense. He also posts the same cases on this forum. 

Nevertheless... the few cases of Konior patients who published independently their photos on this forum are far to be as much amazing I feel...

I would even say they are a bit disappointing regarding the quality and the density of the hairlines. I can still read some admiring messages from some users but I understand that some of them are just trying to be encouraging.

So am I the only one to see that and have this feeling, or is there really a big quality difference btw the cases published by the doctor and the independent patients cases...???

I'm not trying to be negative toward Dr. konior of course. I just want to understand.

Thanks !!!