BaldingEagle1

I think the reason why it’s taking a bit longer is no Fin. 
 

almost all of the results that the clinics posted are of patients taking fin. 
 

could the lurkers that posted their results on here, that went to Eugenix confirm this?

either way, from what I’ve been reading it seems the true results are form 8th month onward. I doubt you’ll see good growth on the 6 month mark. 
 

you can see the outline. So that is most definitely promising. 
 

patience my man, it’ll turn out good.

here’s to some more growth, OP!

What an amazing result. 
 

enjoy that beautiful hair 

7 minutes ago, California said:

Thank you for your way more balanced comments here. And I agree with everything that you said here. Under no circumstances should unbiased reviews be stopped or censored. Any threats and intimidation to the reviewers is totally and utterly unacceptable. Reps do represent the clinics and are expected to showcase and follow the protocols and policies that the Clinics have in place. These are all facts that no one can/should refute. But going back to my original example......after representing Dr. Bhatti for 9 years, if I decide to go rogue and do something really bad, what recourse would Dr. Bhatti have besides firing me? Can he come after me in the US courts? Can he get me prosecuted? (maybe, depending on the severity of my actions). Please, do keep in mind that Dr. Bhatti is based in India and fighting legal battles in foreign countries/courts is not that easy. I do not want to erode the gravity of the situation even for a second. You and I are in complete agreement there. What is wrong is wrong and justifying a wrong makes it even more wrong. 

I appreciate you calling a spade a spade. That is the way it should be and I respect that. I do want you to consider that if something happens one time in 20 years, that can only be considered as an anomaly (even a really bad one) and not a company policy. 

 

Thank you,

California

Cali, on Dr Bhatti’s response on another post, he said he is in charge of other things and his responsibilities were changed, thus stating the said rep was still hired. 
 

that’s what drove me to butt in and that ridiculousness. As long as we both agree that the said rep who does these types of behaviors get completely cut off, I’m good. If not, that’s where the problem lays.  

2 minutes ago, California said:

 

What is up with you representatives and the term “do you want the clinic shut down?” No I do not. I do not have any biased views. 
 

I know dr Bhatti has had many successful cases. Unfortunately this wasn’t one of them. 
 

that is not my concern. Why is this so hard for you to understand? The issue is the threats of blackmail. No rep, clinic, moderator should stop unbiased reviews on a forum. A patient will post their experience for others to read and they will decide upon reading a compilation of results and experiences from many members. 
 

also, whether you like it or not, the world doesn’t work that way. Reps that represent a dr or clinic actually do represent them. It doesn’t matter what you nor I think, as readers on here hold the same view point as I do, based on the replies you’ve been getting talking about the blackmail. I’m just trying to make you aware of the gravity of the situation. 
 

I call a spade a spade. I’m unbiased and I will gladly comment positive things when I see it, at the same time I’ll call negative things when I see it. anyways I said what I had to say. 

Sorry for the pain guys.. don’t lose hope though! Gotta be positive!!

Abhinay went from “I’ll bring her home at 7pm sharp” to “I’ll bring her after the weekend”

very nice results man. Congrats! I can feel the confidence oozing 

Looks really good!

are you taking any medication?

19 hours ago, California said:

Hi Abi28,

I just posted a detailed comment which I believe covers the question that you have raised. I am Dr. Bhatti's Rep for North America. If I commit a wrong, that makes it my fault....not Dr. Bhatti's. He would have the responsibility of severing relationship/ties with me if I did cross the line. The Clinic cannot be judged for the action of one employee/rep. No company (anywhere in the world) can function like that. 

I wish you all the best.

Best regards,

California

This is not how the world works and most states do not have those laws. 
 

might want to rethink that logic. 
 

Generally, an employer can fire you for having a personal website or blog that it deems inappropriate, with very limited exceptions. Even if you have a non-work related website that you don't access from your office, employers can fire you if they feel the content on your personal site or blog is offensive to them or to potential clients, or reflects badly on the company.

the least you could do is do research about a talk rather than blatantly throw ridiculous statements like “if I represent a clinic, and I mess up, Blame me, not the dr”

a doctor or clinic hires a representative to REPRESENT them. The good and bad. 
 

it’s funny how you don’t even know the definition of your “part time job”

since research isn’t your cliche, lemme google it for you:

“Company Representative means the person or persons at the time designated to act on behalf of the Company by written certificate furnished to the Issuer and the Trustee containing the signature of such person or persons and signed on behalf of the Company by its President or any Vice President.”

anyways I’m looking forward to your response where you will dodge my point and go on a nonsensical circle. Readers on here are smart so all you’re doing is giving us a good laugh. I’d advise Dr Bhatti to reconsider his tactic as many international patients like me use websites and forums like this to research and seeing these types of behaviors def turn us the other way.

”warm regards”,

internet user

Reading @California’s comments and trying my best not to laugh. 
 

Can any reader on here EVER think that if a representative that legit REPRESENTS a clinic/Dr does an illegal/unethical thing, that the said Representative should get blamed and the clinic/dr’s office doesn’t? Especially considering he’s still employed by this said clinic/dr? 

lol.. how old do you have to be to be this naive? As I said earlier, low level employees and high level executives have been fired for writing much less on their personal Facebook/social media pages because they REPRESENT the company even if it has NOTHING to do with the business. 
 

this is not only directly related to the business, so it only makes it much worse. 
 

I find it baffling, and you can tell the lack of professionalism based on this type of thinking. 
 

anyways, other readers on here can judge for themselves. I’m not calling for the doctor to be removed so let’s pause on that.. I’m calling for better protection from unbiased reviewers. 
 

suspending a username doesn’t protect as you don’t need a username to view posts on here. I’m happy to see @Melvin-Moderatoris making an effort and taking both sides into consideration as he should. 

Wow in just 3 months. Very nice progress so far. Only 25%~ish of the way there!

are you taking any medication?

Very nice result!

as others have said.. pretty brave if you to go to a random clinic.
 

Thank god they did a good job. 

rock it!

People have gotten fired for a lot less.. I mean in this day and age, people have gotten fired for just posting certain things on their personal social media accounts because they REPRESENT the company they work for..

im sorry if the truth hurts.. I call a spade a spade. 

again I’m not asking for the doctor to be removed I’m just expecting better protection to other forum users on here to post unbiased results. 

1 minute ago, Badresults said:

@Pyrat If this whole discussion is ONLY about the results of my surgery from @Dr Tejinder Bhatti then yes I agree, it's is not fair to ban the doctor from this forum. As he also had a decent results for other patients so it wouldn't justify banning the doctor for few bad results. I'm also aware and know that no doctors would give 100% success in all their procedure in every cosmetic procedure, not only hair transplants. 

HOWEVER, this is not only about the results of his procedure we are talking, but the way he handled, and what his medical representative did. Black mailing a patient, their employer is an unethical action. It shows the character of an individual and their organisation, because the patient is representing the clinic and he's not working alone. If this is brought out of this forum in a legal course, he's Hair transplant centre would have been banned for life to practice. It's a CRIMINAL act which was done!

Banning a username would not justify this whole action. Anyone can change a username, with a different name and come back becoming the patient rep. We all know how it works.

The blog should sends a loud message to everyone that it stands for the right of patients and it would not tolerate such behaviours and with this it would give more confidence to anyone out there who come here to seek support in future. 

 

Also.. you don’t need a username to view the forum.. so I’m not sure how banning a username helps this cause.. how in the world does that prevent this from happening again or to another patient?

im so confused. I don’t follow the logic. 

perhaps privating the forum and having a probationary period before full viewing privileges would help.. either way that just makes you think twice about using the forum if no action gets done..

1 hour ago, Pyrat said:

I am not saying it’s not the clinic’s responsibility. The clinic should absolutely be responsible for what it’s employees do or how they behave. I completely stand by the patient here and think he should do whatever he feels is within his rights to be compensated for what’s been done to him.

I’m not sure you get how forums work. It’s just a place where like minded individuals get together and discuss topics that interest them. It can be extremely valuable when used for the purposes that they were created for and serve. Unfortunately, there is nothing that they can do legally or punitively.
 

The doctors that are recommended here are mostly recommended based on their results. Dr Bhatti’s results are consistently good with some bad results here and there. Removing him from the list will be a disservice to all the patients who would’ve otherwise gone to him and gotten a good transplant. You’re hurting them more than the Doctor or the clinic was the point that I was trying to make.

 

And just to make it clear, I am not a former or future patient of Dr Bhatti. 

I’m not asking him to get removed. I’m just stating a suspension of an account doesn’t solve this issue at all.. and that perhaps something else should be done. 
 

maybe a sticking this forum or something.. I have no idea.. it just feels like a light tap on the wrist, especially when the crime potentially could’ve gotten him fired..

that’s just so unprofessional and pathetic. 

21 minutes ago, Pyrat said:

@Melvin-Moderator has already expelled Shera from the forum. I am not sure what more he can do here.

@Dr Tejinder Bhatti is a good doctor with mostly good results. While the way that this patient was treated is inexcusable, do you want to expel him from a list of recommended doctors and have others not be able to avail his services which are usually good results.

I believe that the fair thing to do here is to let the patient take his course of action and keep this thread as a reference so potential patients in the future are aware of this before they elect to go with the doctor. That way we are helping them make an informed decision for which they would then be responsible.

No. This is sole responsibility on the clinic. The rep doesn’t represent himself and thus action should be taken upon the clinic not against a username that is irrelevant as you don’t need to be a member on this forum to figure out who the patient is. 
 

what a ridiculous thing to think. 
 

the point is to discourage this type of behavior. You make an example of this so other clinics understand the gravity of the situation. 
 

On 5/13/2020 at 11:34 AM, Melvin-Moderator said:

Guys, 

I’m waiting for more information from OP. We take these concerns very seriously, I’m waiting for the email correspondence from the physician, to see what was said or offered. We will review the facts closely and make a decision based on facts. 

As previously mentioned, I will no longer tolerate behavior that undermines our credibility or integrity. I have not been silent or done nothing, but part of my job is making sure the appropriate actions are taken based on evidence. 

If there’s evidence that the surgeon was not standing by the patient or was aware of his rep contacting his employer, well have to remove him without a doubt. That said, we need to review everything before making a decision. 

Ok.. this is where I need clarification and something needs to be done about this. 
 

you said you are against refunds because NDA are attached to them. I agree with this. HOWEVER, the same logic applies to having a rep of a clinic reach out to a patients boss to hush them out. 
 

THIS CANNOT BE LET GO. 

I have no quarrel in this fight but ethically I can’t stand by and just lurk. 
 

please Melvin, take action as you stated on an earlier post you want to make it safe for patients posting their results without concern of backlash. 
 

this is your chance to prove it. 
 

it can’t be something light.. just suspending an account or expelling is not enough IMO.. as it doesn’t stop it from happening again. The patients have to be protected period. 
 

if Dr Bhatti doesn’t want to give a refund, fine. That’s not the problem here though. This is just unacceptable. 

Wow.. and Shera is still employed? This is not a small matter. This is a huge abuse of power. WOW.

Wow huge improvement.. and it’s only 4 months. 
 

you are going to have really good results. 
 

Can you update us on what you’re taking pills wise? And what Eugenix prescribed for you?

i paid my deposit with Eugenix, so just waiting on the India opening up, and then I can choose dates!

On 5/1/2020 at 8:50 AM, Nounours said:

So I have now been on oral finasteride (1mg every morning) for a month now. Happy to say I haven't noticed any of the side effects I was previously concerned about.

Just a question on shedding. From the 3rd week on finasteride I started noticing that I was shedding what looked like miniaturized hairs. I'm not finding it to be excessive but it is noticeable. Can I interpret this as a positive sign that the drug is working? 

Please update us every so often.. hard to trust what some random posters on here say when they claim they have side effects yet they only have 1 post..

3 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

In my opinion, the best dosage is the lowest, there are studies that show efficacy is almost the same at 0.5 mg to 1mg.

Hey, can you please link them? Would love to read up on them by prestigious scientific studies.

Infact, long time lurker here, is there an area on this website where you guys link research on these types of things on here?

hey.. can we get an update regarding your procedure?

I paid a deposit with them, and would love to read some before and after stories, as I wait anxiously to book my actual date once the dates are available.

On 5/1/2020 at 7:52 AM, Petroholic said:

It was not shaming rather an advice.

I have met Nelson and seen him in real life , according to me he looks absolutely great and does not need any cosmetic procedures .

This is what I have stated.

According to me , my hair transplant was more than just vanity , hair loss at a young age had shaken my confidence to the point where I used to think about this every moment of my life . 

Only in such cases will i go in for a cosmetic surgery . 

If such is the case with anyone please go ahead with it .

As I have stated my post was Nelson 's benefit since he had played a role in my own hair transplant journey , not to Shame him in any way .

 

 

I think both you and @Melvin-Moderator have a point. While it is anyone's choice at the end of the day, it is important to not go on a slippery slope of imperfections, that may be based on a 'grass is always greener on the other side' type of mindset.

I have no bone to pick in this fight, but while it is important to be happy with one's self, sometimes there may need to be other's input that would 'hype' up their confidence levels.

At the same time, I hate it when people tell me 'oh you still have hairs', 'oh you look good with a buzz look', or 'you're still handsome without hair' so I completely get and agree with the notion that you do the surgery for yourself.

There needs to be balance, just like everything else in life IMO.