karatekid

22 minutes ago, Tbcruz said:

My grafts were smaller and my doctor explained that’s why my fue did not turn out good with my first procedure. Smaller grafts tend to not survive as well during fue they get damaged too easily.

weird 

Interesting, so you say that for smaller grafts FUT is better and for bigger grafts FUE is better?

Also by your signature I see you have done FUT after FUE, which is unusual.  Dr. Bloxham think that you get better yield with the FUT?

32 minutes ago, Portugal25 said:

@karatekid with FUE the Doctor is using a microscope while extracting your grafts so he can see the best grafts to extract.
The Doctor can chose to extract thicker grafts, grafts with four follicles if he wants to add density or singles if he wants to rebuild the hairline (frontal hairline is done with grafts with one single hair). 

Ok I understand this, but the question is - what is special about me then? why he doesnt recommend FUE just in general? why he answered that just after I sent him the video (he said both option can be good before the video). It means that he indicates  I have gratfs smaller than average just by watching the video? I would think the pictures give more accurate view for this.

Im not even sure I understand what is exactly the reason. Here is what they sent me:

"Dr.Hasson does not recommend FUT method surgery for you. He added that with the FUE method it is easer to achieve density because grafts are smaller, they can be dense packed and he can transplant more hairs per graft"

Does someone understand what that means?  it sounds confusing to me and also not related to the laxity (although this was the response to my laxity demonstration video)

well, sorry but I dont want to put my face here...  and  I dont know how to censor the video

Ok I just got some dissapointing response from Hasson. I said I want FUT, and I sent a video demonstrating scalp laxity, and he responded that he doesnt recommend me FUT.  How can it be? I mean, I dont really know to judge my exact laxity level, but it doesnt seem too bad for me, according to their explaination video. how can it be that even small case of 2000 grafts  cant be achieved? And why he doesnt suggest maybe scalp exercise to increase laxity?  Its really depressing that I dont even have this option... 

It does seem kinda see through...  But keep waiting it should get better

ho wow I just happened now to encounter a video on youtube of someone that had 2 procedures with a very reputable surgeon (not HRN member) and had bad result, he published it in the italian forum, and then was threaten by the clinic itself, plus his post got deleted by the forum admins.  He also got messages from other users which described the same thing happened to them...

Anyway this is very scary,  how can I even know now if my research is based on a complete bias data? This is very alarming

Wow I didnt know it is so common... So how those lowsuites end? 

15 hours ago, hairlossPA said:

lets not get confused. there is no difference between FUT and FUE when it comes to hairline design...

FUT/FUE is merely the harvesting technique.. It's the surgeon who designs the hairline.

Yes maybe FUT will get that quoted 5-10% more yield, but for the most part it comes down to how the surgeon uses the grafts

Ye my point was that I just dont know any surgeon that achieve really good hairline, and does FUT.

3 hours ago, BeHappy said:

You don't have to worry about laxity if it's your first hair transplant and you need less than 3000 grafts. You will most certainly have enough laxity for a 2000 or so graft session.

The difference in estimates may simply be because neither of them have actually seen you in person and they have to make some guesses about your hair quality.

If there are any hair transplant Drs near you that you think may be at least somewhat decent then you should think about having an in-person consultation with them to get a better idea of how many grafts you will need. You don't have to be considering that Dr to actually perform the procedure, but it will at least get you an actual live consultation. Then you can compare that to the non live consultations you had with other Drs. It's just to hopefully provide e better idea of what you can expect.

 

Great input! thanks

Ye you probably right, I will have some better sense after I visit Dr.Feriduni, which I already booked consultation with.

Also Im not sure how it works in the technical way - if I need to pay in advanced, but the precise number of gratfs is decided on the day of the intervention, does it mean I will be asked to add more after if the doctor use more than estimated?

updates?

amazing

The results look amazing.

But wont you say 4350 is alot for this area?  do you know what is the regrowth rate?

1 hour ago, Portugal25 said:

@karatekid I said that in 2008 Rahal was the King of Hairlines but if you ask me today who I would chose for FUT it would be Konior, Diep or H&W. 
Having said that, with today’s advances in FUE results if I was doing my first HT in 2020 I would surely go for FUE.

Ye but the main reason for me to prefer FUT is due to the fact that in this way you have more donor available for future transplant.  Also why you say you would go with FUE, your hairloss pretty advance from what I saw, so wouldnt it better for you to get anyway to maximize donor usage?

I live in middle east.

Lol ye I know what you mean he usually uses large number of grafts. I wonder why he gave me relatively low estimation. 

What happened to all the photos in this thread?

Well they are coming to London in 10 days, but first it's not very 'close', still ~7 hours flight lol, and second due to short notice I cant make it anyway. But actually maybe I will ask just for a video call with a representative, hope it is good enough.

And ye I trust both of them, but it's not about trust, it's more like personal taste and priorities. and my priority is to get the best hairline, not being too conservative.

Yes Im on finasteride, I wasnt very consistent but I start now that Im getting a transplant

Ok so I got a little deeper, in my journey to HT, and have some considerations I would like to have your opinions for.

My first thread is (you dont have to read):

  My goal is reconstructing the hairline. Feriduni suggested 2000-2600 grafts, and Dr.Hasson suggested 1500-2000 both from online estimation. So I have few questions:

1. I wonder why is the difference? I made clear for both that I want to focus on good density, and even lower a bit the hairline. I said I have no problem to go for FUT, so it means I can get more from the donor and still save for long run. How do I know if Hasson suggested lower number to be conservative on the donor or because it's the maximum density he thinks possible to pack in this area?  Can I just tell that I was thinking for higher number?

2.  I got estimation from both, but they are not the final list. I actually have hard time to decide basically between 'saving for long term' and 'have the best hairline'. Because my 2 top docs for kickass hairlines, according to my research are Dr.De Freitas and Dr.Pekiner, but they both do only FUE, and while I can go for FUE since my hairloss isnt too advanced (Im 30 now), I dont really know how much it will progress, so I think going for FUT will be smart for long term.  Portugal suggested Dr.Rahal but I ruled him out due to bad cases of him that I encountered. If you have more suggestion for FUT doctors that have great hairlines I would be happy to hear.

3. Would you go to have a procedure with Doctor you didnt have consultation before (online or fronal)? It is problem for me to fly to Canada for consultation, and Dr.Hasson doesnt offer video  call. I wonder if it's smart to just set up appointment with him like that.

4. Which brings me to this question - isnt it weird that Dr.Hasson dont require live consultation for FUT? I have been told here that scalp laxity should be verified by the doctor before going with FUT,  what if I will get there at the operation day and he will find out Im not candidate for FUT?

Thanks guys!

On 1/11/2020 at 2:17 PM, Gasthoerer said:

Shouldn't we wait for pics before we ask for a touch-up, fix and start a FUT vs. FUE debate etc.?

I dont know, for me, the patient opinion speaks much louder than photos. I have reviewed many patient cases and learned that photos can be very misleading, for  better or worse. you can see 2 pictures of the exact same person that tell totally different story, so what is 'the truth' ?  At the end of the day what's most important is what the patient sees in the mirror,  how satisfied he is and if his expectation have been met. Obviously this holds only if the patient is knowledgeable and realistic regarding to hair transplants, and this one seems to be.

This is my point of view anyway

On 12/19/2019 at 8:28 PM, SprayPaint said:

I chose it. I always had (or at least used to have) a minor/soft widows peak. I showed him a picture of me in my twenties and said “can we recreate that?” And he did.

I did have him draw on several hairlines before settling on one. (You can see in some of my operation day pics posted earlier that there’s several lines on my scalp.) Don’t be scared to be picky. i drew them on my head at home too before going so I knew what I wanted. 

The new widows peak is a but more pronounced than I had practiced drawing, but I like it. Hasson was really patient with that stage and we discussed options and “the look” it would likely generate. He’s good. 

I really like Hasson's work, but all his hairlines I saw are kinda V shaped. I wonder if he does also more circular hairlines, like Pekiner

@petefromgreece updates? I would also like to see post op pics to understand where exactly are the implants

Updates?

Updates?

No updates?

The guy is active here and doesnt post updates, I hope it's not a bad sign...

On 9/8/2019 at 2:47 AM, Aftermath said:

Konior has a good reputation but I honestly feel like I’ve just not seen enough patient posted results, and some that I’ve seen haven’t blown me away. A better question imo would be H&W or Lorenzo imo 

Totally agreed. I started reviewing his results to see why everybody praise him, but honestly there are very few in this forum (and moreover if you look for hairline work), and almost none at the other big forums. And those I saw were pretty good, but not really better than other results of top tier docs.

3 hours ago, Portugal25 said:

@karatekid you are correct, Dr. Pekiner does not perform FUT and he was advising me to get the most out of my donor area.

He gained my trust when he advised me to go have a FUT with Rahal before doing FUE with him.

Ok I understand. It leds me to another question - is it possible at all to have FUT after FUE mid-size procedure? just in order to get more grafts. Im asking because Im in a situation where I want to restore my hairline, but still want to have plenty donor reserve for future, and dont mind the scar. the problems is that I dont find many docs that do great hairlines - like De Freitas and Pekiner - using FUT.   Rahal, has great results no doubt, but still here and there I see bad cases of him, which make me question if his consistency is at the same level as the others.