Helios

Doron, thanks for the response. So are you saying out of the 5000 grafts most of those didn’t grow? Can I ask how you were able to still have enough grafts to have more surgery? The Results are incredible of course. 

Excellent results Doron, keep us updated. It’s a night and day difference between your results at HDC and that clinic in turkey. Congratulations 

also Doron 1 question. From the first failed fue with the turkey clinic you said they took 5000 grafts. Do you roughly know how many of those grafts grew?

Incredible results!

What a home run. Outstanding results

Yup looks like another home run. Great results and Dr Maras is definitely an elite surgeon 

Looking like you’re at 10 months in, not 5. Imagine in another 5 months the further improvements you’ll see. 

Looking great at already 3 months 

Already looking incredible at 4 months. should be smooth sailing from here on. Great news. 

Unbald Eagle,

An additional point on the side. If you had a previous fue with another clinic that didn’t give you the results you wanted, and then on top of that the second fue with HDC didn’t produce results, then it might be a good idea to see if something else is going on before you go for a third surgery. 

17 minutes ago, UnbaldEagle said:

Hi @Helios,

I can see it was clarified we had our procedures on separate days. 

When I did my research of HDC I too could only see good results. That, and because they're recommended here is why I choose them. Of course, back then - apart from 2-3 patient journeys dating back to 2017 or so - they were almost all posted by the clinic. I'm not saying these results are not genuine, on the contrary, I'm just calling them what they are: clinic posted results. There's a difference in cherry picking the most successful HTs final results (out of several hundred a clinic does per year) as opposed to seeing actual patient journeys who post from day 1, not knowing how their own final results will turn out. Now there's a recent surge of patient reviews and I can only hope those guys achieve the result they desire. But me and @WonkyHair unfortunately didn't. That's all to it.

@Parasol, @WonkyHair, @Gasthoerer, @Legend007, thank you for your words of compassion, guys. With all due respect though I will not post any more pictures. It takes a great deal to muster the courage to look into the mirror these days, let alone take a picture. I hope you understand.

In fact I kindly ask @Melvin- Moderator to remove previous pictures too, at least the ones where my face is visible. @WonkyHair already recognized me (that's fine though) and I fear somebody else might too. I can assure you my suffering and shame is genuine so I no longer wish to be associated with something that progressed from an ordeal to a true living nightmare. If that's not possible you can delete this whole thread altogether. 

@Doron Harati, you keep saying that you "tried" contacting me several times and I feel I have to correct you on that. There's been a grand total of 1 "attempt", to which I responded with a delay of 2 days. I really hope I don't have to screenshot and post our private conversations here. You contacted me to do the Skype video call, I gave you my Skype address and then you told me Israel is under heavy attack and you have to stay in your basements and "let's see how it goes". I responded and told you to stay safe and there was no subsequent follow-up, it's only now, 3 months later your brought up this again. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted this to you being unavailable. I must ask however, what is the purpose of this video call? What is HDC's resolution to failed transplants? I'm really curious. I will say however that I'm not going back to a repair procedure. 

 

Thank you for your response  Unbald eagle. Personally from my own experience, when I was researching hair clinics I largely avoided results posted By the clinics themselves and relied on posts by people posted on other hair loss forums. When it came to HDC, the overwhelming experiences people had from there were positive. I also knew dermatologists who supported the fact they did good work. As you mentioned they are also supported by this forum. 
 

in any case, the main point is that you didn’t get the result you were hoping for, so obviously this needs to be fixed. While I take your word and believe you 100% That you didn’t get the result you wanted, without pictures people will automatically have to take what you say with a grain of salt. We also have to consider wonkey hairline is also not at the year mark to fully analyse the result. Again I will stress I believe both of you but i am pointing some small things out. 
 

We don’t know the reason Why your hair transplant failed. It could be fault of the surgeon, it could also be due to the individuals own response. It’s still a surgery after all. But this is how it is with most clinics. Those who get good results will praise the clinic endlessly and those who don’t get good results will equally blame the clinic, sometimes justifiably and sometimes not. 
 

I would strongly consider you discuss this with HDC and see What they say. Either case I believe you and I am sorry you didn’t get the result you should have gotten. That is why I want this to get fixed for you one way or another. 

35 minutes ago, WonkyHair said:

Hi @Helios, I agree no surgeon has a 100% success rate, would it be wise to avoid clinics that make such claims? 😉

Hi wonkyair,
 

To be honest I’m not sure who posted that but I will say yours and unbald eagle’s are the first unsuccessful result I’ve ever seen from HDC, and I researched the internet for months when I was choosing a clinic

 My advice would be to stay in contact with the clinic and see what they offer you. They do actually care about the patients, at least that’s been my experience. 

3 hours ago, JohnAC71 said:

The 2 procedures were actually a few days apart. But this is still obviously not great to read. HDC have shown really good results, and are very capable. I really feel for both guys. All of their concerns are very valid. 😕

Thank you for clarifying the dates were a few days separate. yes of course. They should get the results they were hoping for. Unfortunately no surgeon has a 100% success rate. I’ve seen complaints again top surgeons like Rahal, hasson and Wong Etc and the list goes on.
 

The reason for that is because it’s still a surgery and there are never guarantees with any surgery unfortunately. However, I do believe the clinic will do right by them and assist them. I’m hoping unbald eagle will upload a picture or two. 

Hi Unbald Eagle, 

sorry to hear your result didn’t turn out how expected. Could you please upload a couple of pictures? I remember when I was doing my research in choosing clinics I never came across a bad result at HDC so to have two negative results that were done on the same day is a first.

That being said, You still should have gotten the result you wanted. I know the clinic tries to keep close contact with patients and if there’s a problem they do try to resolve it to make the patient happy.  Hope this gets resolved for you. 

Looking good! thanks for the update 

Thank you Parasol and John! And hoping for a great result for you Parasol! 

Hello Everyone!  Sorry for my absence. A quick update to progress At nearly one year post second FUE and 2 and a half years post first FUE. Not the best pictures but will try and update again soon in better lighting. 
 

If you have any questions please let me know, and quick thanks to George who is patient coordinator at HDC for still being incredibly helpful and still checking on me since the first procedure over 2 years ago! If you have any questions about the Clinic or are interested in HDC please contact him at george@hdc.com.cy. Take care everyone and good luck with your transplant goals! Wish you all the best. 

Looks on track For good results at 8 weeks. Donor area looking great. 

I would contact Dr Maras and HDC since they specialise In repair cases and deal with a lot of failed transplants from other doctors. 

Month 1-4 are the worst without a doubt. Shedding, redness etc. Should start looking good after month 4-6. Your pictures look normal to me at this stage. 

23 minutes ago, elicochin said:

I will certainly give this a try. Will let you know.

You might also consider grafts from your beard if you can go grow one as that will further help to fill things out. 

16 minutes ago, elicochin said:

It was Dr. William Lindsey. I just now added links to my earlier posts about the surgery.

Many on this forum recommends an FUT first that can yield more and will give you the flexibility to do an FUE later on.

My opinion of him from what I’ve seen and heard (Which is limited) is that he’s a professional and reliable doctor so will be interesting to see what he says

elicochin Could you name the surgeon that did your transplant and could you tell me what led you to choose fut over fue? Just curious. Thanks 

But has there been any reduction at all in the past months even if it’s not much? In any case month 5 is too early to draw conclusions and a lot can happen in the next couple of months so keep us updated. Hoping for the best for you. 

Unbald eagle, has the redness lessened to any extent over the 5 months? 5 Months is indeed still early. Would hold out until month 6 or 7 at least. 

Sorry to hear about the over harvesting but to some extent I’m not surprised. How many grafts were taken in total over your procedures ? 7-8,000?
 

I remember emailing Erdogans clinic in the very beginning and when i found out they planned to do a 5,000 FUE in one session I completely avoided them and went to Dr Maras and HDC where they paid the most attention to preserving the donor regions.