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1 hour ago, Fozzie said:

It's 8000 grafts before it becomes starts looking thin. Reason why Erdogan and some other surgeons numbers for total donor capacity are generally higher is because I think they feel they can target closer to the 35%-40% mark of total of donor area before they feel it starts looking thin. The Belgian and North American surgeons are more conservative and will probably stay in the 25%-30% range for FUE imo.

 

I would say as soon the grafts are taken from the donor capcity, it begins to look thin but the visibility of thinning depends on how many grafts are taken and whats the hair diameter). In my case donor area on the left side behind the temple point looks quite thin compared to right side. Maybe more grafts were taken from that side. 

But it can be easily covered by growing hair a bit. And in  hairtransplant surgery, one should keep in my mind that the donor area will definetly look thinner after the surgery. Its quite obvious.

But as long one gets goods results, i think it doesnt matter that much if the donor area gets a little thinner. I could have lived with that peacefully😋

32 minutes ago, kw877 said:

Check out my thread. Pretty much identical issues, low density, large gaps between grafts. Hoping that at month 12 or after I can have it fixed as right now, I can’t bare to have it on show

Yeah, i have seen your thread and maybe commented there too that both of us having identical issues ( low density, weak hairline especially right side,  big gaps between grafts in hairline). 

Yeah cant doo much other than to wait and hope for something good to happen, til the 12 month mark. Do you know how many grafts do you have left? And would you consider a second transplant considering future hairloss on other area which is not treated? 

23 minutes ago, Fozzie said:

Was your hairline was moved slightly lower in procedure with ASMED?

I had done a surgery earlier a few years ago in Oslo (mentioned in my intro of this thread) which was not successful. In that surgery the clinic lowered the hairline and Asmed had to operate according to the hairline established by the clinic in Oslo. So no fault of Asmed in this case. 

On 3/2/2019 at 11:58 AM, Baldrick101 said:

Firstly, your photos are very honest with overhead lighting with wet/dry comparisons. 

Yes density could be a little better. I noticed you were still completely covered in scabs at day 16 which is the latest I've ever seen. From what I understand it is critical to be scab free through irrigation as early as possible. Day 12 at the very most. Perhaps you weren't thorough enough with cleaning at the initial stages? 

Anyway, at this stage 600 FU would fix things up for a dense result. 

Thanks for the feedback mate. Ja, i try to make sure in every post that i am fair to clinic by clicking picz from every possible angle (and as asked by any member on this thread). 

Yes its true that my scabs fell off very late compared to a regular patient. I had to make use of a gaze in order to get rid of scabs by rubbing it on my transplanted area. I wonder some time that might be the reason of weak hair line and low density. I always have struggled with dandruff and dry skin maybe that was the reason scabs did not fall off by their own. Another reason could be that i was maybe  too gentle in washing my recepient area! 

Not sure if my another surgery would be a option for me as i have utilized a large nr of grafts in the first go with Asmed. Have to take the other area ( which is never treated) in account while considering a second go, as i can experience further hairloss there. Will make a judgement about it after passing 12 months mark

16 minutes ago, Kingbilla said:

@FarsanUk

What doctor meant was that these might br transplanted grafts shafts that have not shed or are stagnant (acting as foreign body) and could be blocking a new hair from growing. You can tell by tweezing them. They should come out easily .

I think he genuinely gave you good advice. You should look into it, might be the reason crown is behind.

Listen to this guy, he is a Doc 😝

Could you also show us a picture of your temple points?

Looks good for 4,5 month!😀

Any update friend?????

1 hour ago, HairDew said:

Just a small comparison. After 6 months from my touch up.

 

When did you have your second surgery? Can u please upload a current picture of your hair!

concragulations for having a successful transplant surgery

https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/52366-fue-4512-grafts-at-asmed-dr-erdogan/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-496053

17 hours ago, markymarc123 said:

On a side note.

When styling your hair I would recommend using a clay or paste.  The product you are using (water based gel?) is exacerbating the problem of thin hair. Almost like when you just jump out the shower.

You want a dry/slightly moist product that isn't water based such as gels.  i use men-u clay which is a dry clay product, it gives your hair volume and density and does not have that shiny, wet look. 

I honestly haven't touched Gel's for years as my hair looks much fuller with Clay's/pastes

I use Men-U clay.

Thanks for the tip mate. I used wax from Define in those pictures. Just wanted to compare my current state with pre-surgery  as i used same wax before. Agree with you that paste/clay add more volume to the hair, will try it in my next post. 

2 hours ago, PGDMMB said:

Don’t listen to the doubters payam I’ve been following your progress from the beginning and the way you were treated at the start by a lot of people including mods, who were dismissing your claims and calling you a worrier was disgusting. You have every right to be upset and expose the shoddy work.

We are seeing more and more people from this clinic who are not satisfied with their result, something is going wrong 

No, nobody is doubting payams intentions. Just asked him to make a update so we get to know his current status. Dont understand why are you getting so defensive on his behalf? And i think its quite a legit request as not any recent pictures have been posted from him

i m looking forward to more updates as he mentioned that he will be posting new pictures this weekend. Also asked him to PM. 

And to be honest i feel he should be regularly making updates in this thread as many of this forum members are following his thread. And also in regard to be fair to Asmed one should make regular updates

Thanks 4 sharing. I am  dissapointed so far (almost 8 months) with the outcome of my surgery but have not given up all hope yet. Its just the hairline and area behind i am worried most about. We will get to know in 4 months, i guess if i am going to have a decent result or not 😉

1 hour ago, Kingbilla said:

Hey @Payam

Any update? Really curious especially after how things turning out with my procedure. Any ray of hope

Yeah its about time mate

1 hour ago, Kraistoff said:

Hello mate

 

i can even see from the photos (which on my screen do not have very high resolution) that there are very fine hair which will thicken. At the moment those hair won’t add any aesthetic benefit but the sure will when they mature . 

 

I am at 5 months now. The only hair that have completely matured are the ones which never shed (which were a minority) 

 

hang in there , your hair looks good 

Thanks for the feedback friend. Ja my only hope is that tranplanted hair get thickens enough to give a better coverage/density. As i am already approaching 8 months i have very little hope of new growth. But lets see

Ja, you shouldnt stress. Complete the cycle of 12 months and then make some conclusions. And inbetween be positive for any magic to occur. Good luck

9 minutes ago, Kraistoff said:

 

My coordinator has also left, so now who do I contact with questions?

 

has anybody been to asmed and had them ask you for photos or is it the patient that has to manage the customer / patient aftercare ? 

No, nobody at Asmed asked me about any updates. Sent them some pic at 6 month mark. And got told all looks normal and hair needs time to get mature. 

And to be honest i dont know what to ask either. One has to wait til 12 month to register a concern. 

9 minutes ago, Payam said:

Probably Koray training new techs on us so he could scale up his operation

Hey payam, can you update us with your latest results? Have you uploaded new pic in your thread??

https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/52366-fue-4512-grafts-at-asmed-dr-erdogan/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-495373

5 minutes ago, Kraistoff said:

No I never had any shedding in temples. They just grew. I also never shed in the very front of my hairline . Hair diameter 51 

 

I remeber waking uo during the surgery and a senior member of staff was working on the front section, it made me worried that maybe that’s why it didn’t shed. 

 

I am rematively ok with the hairline , but I hope it gets better. I am worried about behind the hairline as some areas look completely bald . However , when I zoom in using decent light I can see fine hair growing. See below 

 

 

 

Every one tells me i am maybe a slow grower! But how long can one expects new sprouting! I dont thinks thats the case with me. Lets wait and see a couple of more month to give a final call. 

Hang in there buddy & Good luck

Do you know diameter of your hair? You hair seems very like mine! I had my surgery at Asmed in july 2018 and currently i am 7 and a half month post surgery. Struggling with a weak hairline and low density. Still hoping for the things to get better!

another thing i noticed which is similar in our cases is that density at  temple points is very good. Especially compared to area behind hairline. Grafts at temple never shed in my case. Have you had any shedfing at temples??

1 hour ago, PGDMMB said:

No offence to you or any other paitent brother, just thinking out loud about the company 

Dont know what happened to latest results of the clinic. They had always remarkeable results til 2017/2018 but in the late the resluts are not so impressive! Hope things get better for every one. 

I had mine surgery of 4500 grafts at Asmed a month before you. Even though i had Little less hairloss compared to you and a surgery of more grafts, I am still struggling with a weak hairline and low density over all. Do you know the diameter of your hair? And are you finasteride?

1 minute ago, jonnyalex said:

4 years ago. 

Can you share link of your thread? If you made one??? Did you take up the matter with the clinic?

7 minutes ago, jonnyalex said:

I am unhappy only with the hairline. It is not noticeable to most people, but it bothers me. There is a very clear doll hair effect in real life, with 1 CM gaps in between the hairs. A combination of Dutasturide, Oral Minoxidl and a 4500 HT has served me well however as you can see from the photos. I need a higher quality camera to make the issue that bothers me very clear, but it is similar to the complaints posted on this thread. 

When did you have your surgery? Did you take up the matter with Asmed? What did they say? Too many questions but i am really worried about outcome of my surgery! Having same problem as yours, big gaps in the hair line 

btw do you know diameter of your hair

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Insane results mate, you are a lucky fellow.

do you know the diameter (hair thickness) of your hair?

Here is my 7th month mark update.

After a long time i used some styling product to style my hair to see how things looks now compared to pre surgery time. The outcome was not so desirable to say the least. Hair looked very thin and the density overall was quite poor as the whole scalp gets very visible. infact i can't differentiate between density on the transplanted area (front and midscalp) and non-transplanted area (backsclap+crown). The hairine have many wide gaps and it seems majority of the transplanted hair in the hairline have matured fully.

To sum up: the things are not moving in the desirable direction.