Shifty

I never heard of the reduction but I have been taking a collagen supplement for a few months now. From what I have read collagen supplements can take a very long time to actual show results, like up top a year.

On 10/3/2020 at 5:14 AM, Cardin1977 said:

Great tips Shifty. I've been using Finasteride for 6 months now and my crown has almost doubled in thickness. Sadly not much has come back in at the front, though I'm going to wait 6 more months to see before having a hair transplant!

Have you tried derma rolling the front? I think its worked wonder for me in conjunction with the other stuff. 

check out the link in my signature.  

13 minutes ago, Sneak said:

Hi shifty, other than fin/min/derma what’s the next most important you think? I can’t quite be bothered to do your whole list but maybe add one more, I’m on fin/min/derma/nizoral now

I never used nizoral just an fyi. I bought it but ended up throwing it away and using the other brands.

I think they main thing is, to make any type of break through,  consistency. Don't wake up one day and say, "Ah forget this ill skip this today." And if you have to and its possible (like derma rolling as an example) do it the next day. 

The easiest things are anything you put in your mouth because they don't  disrupt your day at all. Like any pill its pop and go. 

For me the toughest is derma because it takes me 20 minutes and hurts like fuck. But I never miss 2 times a week. 

Just do this would look better

12 minutes ago, ciaus said:

Shifty, if you put your regimen in your posting signature, every time you would make a comment on somebody's topic it would increase the topic posts page count by 1!

 

How about adding these instructions to your last testament and will for your tombstone:

Hair lies Shifty with his hair thanks to...

<insert regimen as of last day>

I added it! lol Also I am never dying so there's that. 

"all the scars" lol 

**Updated 

HEALTH REGIMEN

***I have added products in between i.e. supplements, shampoos, conditioners, lotions….I don’t think any of them made a noticeable enough difference for the effort for me to continue paying for them. But feel free to ask me what they were.

My hair continues to grow!

Every Day Green Drink:

1 cup of water / 1 scoop of greens / ¼ tsp Vit C / 1 scoop of collagen

1)      Greens - https://team-isa.isagenix.com/en-us/products/vitality-well-being/individual/isagenix-organic-greens

2)      Vitamin C Ascorbate Crystals  https://www.vitacost.com/source-naturals-vitamin-c-sodium-ascorbate-crystals

3)      Collagen - https://www.neocell.com/products/collagen-protein-peptides

 ** I take more vitamin C usually 3/4 tsp but if you want to clean out your gut you can go heavy. Do some research on Vit C. 

Vitamins - follow directions for usage

daily/nightly https://team-isa.isagenix.com/en-us/products/vitality-well-being/individual/complete-essentials-daily-pack-with-isagenesis

Pumpkin seed oil pills - Vitacost https://bit.ly/2WgCa7A 

Biotin w/ bamboo extract - Vitacost https://bit.ly/3dDbJ1T

Zinc w/ copper - https://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/solaray-zinc-copper-50mg-2mg-100-capsules/so-1988

7PM Every Night:

Finasteride – https://www.forhims.com/

Monday and Thursday Mornings:

Dermapen  A7 - https://www.drpenusa.com/ (front and temporal)

Derma roller – 1.5 purchase them on Amazon (Use  Amazon Smile!!!) (Crown Area)

I recently bought this one, its pretty good. - https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VP4N48V/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Every Night and Morning  (Except Monday and Thursday Mornings Because of Derma):

Rogaine Foam 5% (crown)

Spectral CBD (with nanoxidil) (front and crown) https://dslaboratories.com/products/spectral-cbd-innovative-hair-loss-treatment-with-nanoxidil-5-cbd

Shampoo Mondays / Thursdays / Saturdays:

Conditioner Everyday:

https://hairlossdhtshampoo.com/ 

Rivita CBD (basically every day unless I use the above)

 https://dslaboratories.com/collections/mens/products/revita-cbd-purifying-shampoo

Every Night 25 minutes:

Laser Light – There are for sure better caps out there, I purchased this a few years ago.

https://us.currentbody.com/products/igrow

Every 6 Months:

30 day Cleanse:

Just an ** I started doing these for health purposes and to lose a little weight, i typically lose 10-25 lbs when I do these,  but I do believe they assist in keeping the functions of my body working better than not. A good example is I had a light case of Asthma When I started doing these in 2012, I have not had an attack since. I am not a doctor, and this is NOT a cure. But cleansing and intermittent fasting can help with many things.

https://team-isa.isagenix.com/en-us/products/weight-loss

EXERCISE AND EAT HEALTHY!!!

16 hours ago, jimcraig152 said:

Update that link I posted with the latest changes to your regiment. Add a link to the updated regiment to the OP. And add it to your signature so folks can easily find it.

I had to read through all 16 pages to ensure I had the latest regiment :).

wont let me edit that post. Ill just repost. 

1 hour ago, HTHope said:

Fantastic. Is your regimen the same? Is the updated one listed anywhere?

47 minutes ago, jimcraig152 said:

Bookmarked it for myself. Here ya go.

Copy and pasted because right after I remembered.

I also may have mentioned somewhere in here but if not I added these 2 a couple months ago.

twice a day (morn/night) https://dslaboratories.com/products/spectral-cbd-innovative-hair-loss-treatment-with-nanoxidil-5-cbd

I use this as regular Shampoo https://dslaboratories.com/collections/mens/products/revita-cbd-purifying-shampoo

I actually forgot a couple things!

morning and night

Pumpkin seed oil pills - Vitacost https://bit.ly/2WgCa7A 

Biotin w/ bamboo extract - Vitacost https://bit.ly/3dDbJ1T

Zinc w/ copper - https://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/solaray-zinc-copper-50mg-2mg-100-capsules/so-1988

On 8/21/2020 at 4:22 PM, Melvin-Moderator said:

Yea, it’s shocking, guess it’s because you don’t have to use as much as fibers. I just got this spray prothik in the mail. They want me to review it, but honestly it seems like that cheesy GLH commercial from the 90’s the babes are back! 
 

dude their website looks like a 12 year old put it together lol

Maybe try a hair system? They have come a long way, plenty of great examples of them online.

https://www.youtube.com/user/HairsystemsHeydecke/videos

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9kphHUFSA9/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Happy Anniversary to me. Today marks exactly 2 years since starting the journey. I started with Finesteride 1mg September 26 2018. 

Below is taken earlier with some cbd spray in front and Minox on top so its a little wet/matted. But also gives a great view of how I have fared over the past 2 years.  I combed it all in the direction I believe it naturally wants to go in as well. 

I started to use the derma roller lower on the hair line to see if I can activate other follicles and lower the hairline. Will be a good experiment. I started this knowingly last night. 

Anywho, I've been super religious since day one with everything and so far its payed off. 

For comparison. The first picture was taken late 2015 early 2016 and it got considerably worse in the 2 years after.  The crown was already gone by that point. The next 2 years the front temples just disappeared. The red circle pic is I believe from early 2015? (maybe 14? I label my pictures by date now) when I realized spiky hair did not work anymore so I tried to grow it out.  What was I thinking lol. You can actually see the progression from the 1st and second pics (reversed)

** corona virus and lockdown and a long life lol has completely made me misinterpret time, days weeks months all melt into one so even the dates I am posting might be wrong.  I cant even believe I started this 2 years ago today, I had to scroll back into this thread to find out when I did. Thankfully I posted it! Someone asked me how old I was the other day and I had to think about it LOL 

20 minutes ago, Panamera13 said:

@Shifty I tried following your regimen for nearly a yr and it didn't work for me.

In your first thread you mentioned - "42 yrs old -  hair loss happened really fast (between ages 39 and 41) no longer losing hair  - good skin laxity as far as I can tell - decent donor" - do you think you had some other scalp issue that caused hairloss and not MPB?

I have been using everything else other than Fin and absolutely no improvement for me:

I use:

Lipogaine Shampoo

Lipogaine Conditioner

Azelaic Acid with NO Minox

Lipogaine Minox

GNC Vitamin

Zhou Nutrition Hair supplement (started 4 months ago, taking 1 per day and not 2).

Dermarolling once a week 1mm

Laser cap twice a week since 2 yrs.

I give up..LOL.

Well, the first six things on this list I did not use, I dont even know what Lipogaine is. lol Also I derma twice a week and havnt used a cap until recently. 

I ask this question because how many people are being told there are no other alternatives than an HT when there clearly are? I was told this even after a doctor used a magnifying glass too look at my head and the follicles. I've seen some fairly terrible stories on this site over the 2 or so years I've been a member, some with some without pictures. 

Is what happened to me so unusual that most are willing to go under a knife instead of, and spending sometimes 10's of thousands of dollars? I thought my hair was gone for good, I was bald in certain spots for a few years. I remember the day my niece saw me bending over and started making fun of me because she noticed thinning in my crown. (kids lol I should have started that day on this journey) Its why I asked the Telogen question because the front temple areas were full on gone (with my big head it was so depressing lol) but have come back fairly decently.  

That picture is me, so is the below one.  I may have posted both somewhere in the thread I am documenting my attempt to grow it all back.  My hair is far from perfect but it continues to grow in areas i thought it would never again without a HT.  A tiny bit of Toppik on the front left and crown (not a lot at all) and boom people are complimenting me on  my hair every where i go. 

I still have a small spot on my crown that I am hyper aware of so hats are still a thing for me, but when I can I'm going to give a couple other things a try (see other thread when I do) 

Maybe there isnt a magic pill yet even though I'm taking it when they create it lol, but maybe there is something else? 

18 hours ago, ciaus said:

 

 But I've seen a thread on the forum, about a guy just using some meds, with various herbs and spices from the colonel's secret recipe, and he not only halted his substantial loss, but got alot of re-growth! I'm going go try to find the thread and link it.

It was my thread lol kind of why I am asking 

I hear this a lot. Is there a time frame? is it case by case? Can telogen phase seem permanent?   Is it complete horseshit? Here is a question. Would you think the below picture could grow hair back? 

I am using minox now, I have used it before by itself and it did absolutely nothing so who knows if it is doing anything now tbh. I never had a massive shed. if you look at my post years had went by where no hair grew where now hair is growing. At what point do you say hair wont come back?

10 hours ago, tot0101 said:

Did you still use the biotin with bamboo extracts? I saw it on a previous page but not on your final breakdown? 

I do. same brand. I was actually thinking this morning as I took my 2 capsules if I should cut it out. Not really sure. 

46 minutes ago, Dr. Suhail Khokhar said:

This is what I use and it works well. Just get it from a reputable seller. Lots of knock offs out there.

I get this but is it as effective and if not how large of a difference has been noted. I take regular fin now started doing every other day. But obviously the no sides or less sides is a huge selling point for the long haul especially considering I am doing every 2 days as opposed to every day. Should be noted I have been taking Fin for 2 years this month. 

On 9/7/2020 at 7:46 PM, Dr. Suhail Khokhar said:

Topical finasteride works and has been peer reviewed:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6609098/

You can search for it online and eBay has it as well. I use the topical finasteride/minoxidil combo myself

Can you sum this link up in a pill vs topical reply? lol 

On 9/7/2020 at 9:11 PM, James C said:

Excellent. Dr Carlos Wesley sells a mix of 0.04% Dutasteride, 0.1% Finasteride, 6% Minoxidil, Retinol & 0.1% Caffeine. as well as just 0.5% finasteride spray. Which one do you think i should try?

 

I'm going to inquire about this. Been wanting to try out the topical so I can stop taking the pill. He's in NY so this post is very valuable to me lol thanks. 

28 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

There’s been studies that show it’s a pretty potent DHT blocker, that’s why I’d like to get my baseline DHT levels checked, and then again after a few months of use.

I used it for 7 or 8 months months every day. Maybe its just one of those things where it works for some and not others. Not worth buying them for me. There is also extract in my shampoo so maybe that's enough. 

7 hours ago, Blower said:

i am taking this at the ,moment..  so am i right that people think DHT blockers make a noticeable difference in your hair and not just holding dht back?  also is minoxidol a DHT blocker or just to thicken up your hair?

Min isn't a dht blocker. it stimulates growth.  DHT by definition can assist in regrowing hair because of their mechanism if the follicle isnt completely dead. 

20 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

 pumpkin seed oil.

I took pumpkin seed oil pills for  months.  Did not notice anything different so i recently just stopped.