Shifty

I posted this picture October 2018.

Just now, Phil36fromaus said:

Looking at your first ever post and then comparing it to this ... holy f*ck man!

I was just doing the same thing LOLOL

Missed last month, will update fully in a cpl weeks. This is right now. Hairs still sprouting in the front, not sure about crown. I have a tiny bit of fibers in the front left but you wouldn't be able to see it in this photo i do not think.

I have being going hard with derma pen, I think the harder I am on the areas i'm injuring the better the result......who knows, no pain no gain!!!

I use the Doctor Pen A6. I do not use minox and pen on the same nights as Mycroft stated, you increase chances of side effects. 

I am using 1-2 MM depending on the area Im using it on. 

Ingredients are slightly different. They work the same as far as my research. Liquid is easier to apply as foam gets soaked up into hair. 

From my personal experience; The liquid gave me really bad dandruff.  My scalp was white. The foam doesn't do this at all. I go through a lot of it though. 

I dont remember where I read about MM size but I do recall 1.5. I do not use it on same night as I use rogaine.  I have been using the next day.

My derma schedule as I have noted in pasts posts are Monday and Thursday nights only.

10 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Wow dude this is insane, Merck and Johnson and Johnson need to sponsor you asap 😜

Ill use their money for an HT lol

44 minutes ago, hair4tomo said:

Ah thanks. Amazing results you have there. What mm size needles on the roller did you use? 0.5mm? 0.3mm?

Do you have a link to the Nizoral product? If I were to go for one, should I pick the Nizoral one or the "HAIR RESTORATION LABORATORIES' 2019 PROFESSIONAL STRENGTH" one?

1.5 but with the derma pen I vary between 1 and 2 depending on how much it hurts lol

The shampoo I use has a link is in previous page. I purchased Nizoral but only used it a cpl times before I went back to HRL.

37 minutes ago, hair4tomo said:

Hi Shifty, Just wondering why the derma roller isn't part of your "big three" (to make a big four) if it gave you such success?

It is, the big 3 is a term i've learned on this site. If you go back a page or two, you will, see exactly what I have been doing as I write it all out.

I just started using my derma pen....it hurts so much more than the roller...lol

16 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

You would be surprised. Back in the day surgeons used to charge $15 per graft and were talking about the days when 1,000 grafts was considered a mega-session. It's not until recently that prices have become a bit more reasonable. Think of it like electronics, do you remember how much a big screen TV used to cost? I remember as a kid in the 90's big screen televisions costing thousands upon thousands of dollars. Now you can buy a 60 inch TV for a couple of hundred bucks.

 

imagine the cost drop of HT's though!

3 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

It obviously wouldn't benefit big pharma to have a cure. However, realistically speaking even if there was a cure, how much would it cost and who would be able to afford it? Let's say there is a cure, it may be out of the general public's financial reach until a long time.

cant be more than an HT lol I mean Jesus

Is it so crazy to think they find a cure while working on a completely different ailment? I feel like I see this quite a bit.

You're also  talking about a multi billion dollar industry, they probably have it already, it just doesn't make sense to make it public.

I do both of these and a few others, link below. I do microneedling Mondays and Thursday night. I do not use Minox on these nights but other than that Minox morning and night.

I do a few things, both of these included.  Check out my progress here and my routine.

I have both, roller works just fine. Stamp hurts like hell.

My perspective is, when you start doing things in tandem with each other i.e. Finesteride - vitamins - derma - etc - etc, you will 100% see better results than each on their own. 

Saying vitamins do nothing for you is puzzling. Everything you ingest gets processed by your body. Just know what your putting in your body because not everything is the same.  I will preface that by saying FOOD FIRST! A healthy diet is needed,  you cannot get everything you need just from vitamins but if you feel you may be deficient in something vitamins will help. 

7 hours ago, CosmoKramer said:

Fantastic results without going the Ht route.

Have you thought about microneedling with a roller or pen for better blood circulation to the new hairs to strengthen and thicken them further?

Are you talking about derma roller? Because I do that, every Monday and Thursday.  If you go back a page or 2 you will see exactly what I've been doing for 8 months now. 

Month 8 to the day.

Nothing in the hair just towel dried and left alone for a little after a shower.

Hair still growing. Or at least it looks that way to me, especially in the front. I'm definitely praying it is!! 

 Went to Aruba earlier this month and other than that, as I've said before, I've been religious with doing everything.

(See previous messages in this thread for exactly what I'm doing)

FRONT LEFT

FRONT RIGHT

FRONT

CROWN

Higher yield of graft survival, easier to obtain more grafts per session Also consider with a good Micro-pigmentation job the scar is almost unnoticeable. Its actually a better option just people don't want to have their heads cut open IMO  lol

@JCw I imagine as you heal and hair starts growing that will be fine.

It was just looking good today so had to share. Thank God for this forum! Would not have done all this if it had It been for this forum. 

Question: how long before Finesteride (which I believe is the driving force here, everything else makes it work that much better) hits its max efficacy?  Meaning, when can I say ok I've hit the wall this is all it's doing? 

nice work with that amount of grafts 

Nice presentation as well, exact before and afters.

1 hour ago, petefromgreece said:

Looking GREAT Shifty!  

Do you plan on decreasing your dermarolling sessions when you get into more of a maintenance mode or are you going to still do it a few times each week?

Thanks! As it gets longer it gets harder to derma because it catches the hairs and pulls the out, but ill keep at it. better safe than sorry

1 hour ago, Mycroft said:

You've had some great results thus far. Even if you end up undergoing a surgery you will probably need a fraction of the grafts to achieve your goals with a much better end result. Are you just looking to increase density or were you thinking you might reshape/lower the hairline also?

Increase density in frontal hairline and close up the crown. I think i can get it done w 2500. I was told 4 before the regimine