Jump to content

VicTNYC

Senior Member
  • Posts

    478
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    3

Posts posted by VicTNYC

  1. I would say since you’re in the good age range where having a shaved head looks to be trendy, I’d say shave your head and see how you look and if you like it, a shaved head looks so much better than a comb over on a young dude , and see what kind of feedback you get from friends and family first and if you can carry a shaved look until you feel 100% comfortable enough to get an Ht then do so but don’t rush it....then...if it would make you happy and improve self confidence do all the research you can then go for the HT. Many have said it was life changing, good luck!

  2. 8 hours ago, Spaceman said:

    On average, 1 in 8 follicles is in telogen state at any time. It is in a resting state with no hair. That means some of the doubles, look like singles when they are extracted. The 2nd follicle in the graft is in telogen. So a graft with a single hair but two follicles can easily be mistaken for a single and implanted in the hairline. It is also possible for a triple to have two follicles in telogen.

    You need a high powered microscope to see the telogen follicles, and you need to examine every graft that goes into the hairline very carefully. Many FUE-only clinics do not have microscopes. It is normally not an issue for FUT surgeries because every graft is separated and sorted under a high powered microscope.

    Even with skilled technicians at the microscope, it’s possible to miss a few. I don’t think having a few doubles in the hairline makes a significant cosmetic impact, however, having a lot of them does tend to create a tree-trunk effect and make the hairline seem less natural. 

    Great explanation! Makes logical sense.

  3. 2 hours ago, Potier said:

    Reading this forum and erdogan and asmed have some concerning hairline results. It does look kinda fake. Major concern is the hairline. Any recs for hairline specialists?

    It’s very interesting that you, an new consistent anti-ASMED poster already know so much about them being “fake”....but....has no clue to any other hairline “specialists” work from this forum. Shill?

  4. 16 hours ago, Legend007 said:

    technically l, I think they are using too small a punches for extractions .7mm average .. they have to do this since they do large number of grafts around 2500-3000 average .. n still be able to keep the donor in good shape .. but it takes a good surgeon to pull this off .. using small punches for dense caliber hair has a lesser chance of survival .. n they are using techs to do those extractions .. it depends on how experienced the tech is that is working with u for it to be successful .. it takes a lot  of skill to do the extractions correctly , especially if u do a lot of grafts .

    I agree, lots of skill is involved, but, if they used larger punches for extractions people would be complaining of dotted up donor area scars and bigger gaps in the density, so it’s a no-win situation.

    i also have to wonder if those that are getting sub par results are not sticking to the clinics post care guidelines to the T, not smoking, not drinking alcohol, not using hair products too early, not exposing the scalp to the sun etc....and....I also have to wonder if traveling a day or two after the procedure for return flights and trips home might somehow be detrimental to the grafts healing and survival rate given all the activity and stress that might be in play rushing for returning home, I kinda think it’s necessary to just rest and relax more than a day or two after such a procedure to maintain less stress on the healing grafts and improving graft healing and survival...especially since it takes 4-6 days for the grafts to become fully imbedded into and with the scalp.

  5. 6 hours ago, Mick50 said:

    Of course when a new poster comes on with no posting history  and seems to concentrate on one particular  clinic   with negative reviews etc they are working  for another clinics, happens all the time.  There is a school of thought that thinks anyone who posts negative experience with  clinic, subpar growth etc   that the thread should be locked immediately for a chance, firstly,  to prove that it is a genuine patient ,then for the patient  to give consent for the Doctor/clinic to respond and at that point let the post go public to hear both sides of the story .

     

    @Mick50 Agree. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt but if their actions and posts have an agenda and claims without evidence then doubt becomes evident and I ignore their posts or “opinions” because they are not helpful or constructive to the discussion.

     

  6. One has to wonder if any of these new posters posting negative things about Turkish clinics without having done any consultations or procedures with them or any evidence to the claims they are making and posting asking for forum members to message them in private are employees or associates of much much more expensive US & UK based clinics, and they’re purposefully trying to dissuade people going to ASMED or any other recommend cheaper overseas clinic, since likely the US & UK clinics are loosing lots of clients and money to the overseas clinics....hmmm 

    ‘Although, genuine reviews like PlanetStephens’, either positive or negative are very important and necessary for a good, unbiased discussion on places like this.

    • Like 1
  7. 4 hours ago, Payam said:

    I keep seeing people mention the international hairloss forum and want to say they only have around a dozen of CLINIC posted results from 2018 with varying quality, and if you check the patient testimonials you will see a very long thread by Nagualito with a sub par result. A dozen clinic posted result for clinic that has performed hundreds of surgeries this year alone. You could argue not everyone updates the clinic or wants their results posted but.. 12 out of several hundreds? And compared to how many sub par results posted by patients?

    As for this forum there are several poor results if you care to look that range from sub par to unacceptable. I will obviously wait until the 12 month mark, but my entire front row is almost exclusively doubles and coupled with the poor density it looks awful, it just feels like I got screwed.

    I am not surprised about the quality though now that I am more knowledgeable in the recent changes the clinic has made. It is all starting to make sense now that I hear about this mega clinic and newly hired staff, and how shockingly young my surgical techs looked, and I guess Erdogan was practicing as well since he wasn't even supervising us. You can't conveyorize a hair transplants clinic, It's a recipe for disaster.

     

    IMG_20181031_123929.jpg

    Dude, you’re sounding more and more neurotic and it’s beginning to be hard to take you seriously with all the repetitive claims and hyperbole you keep conveying about the clinic and your procedure and your obsession with a handful of double and triple grafts in your hairline and not-yet-mature density that is not an end-all be-all at this point in time. You seem to have already concluded that your procedure is a failure 7.5 months in and even much earlier and have concluded that the clinic is functioning as some sort of back-alley chop-shop, and you seem to be wanting to convince others that’s it is as well, just being honest here. It’s hard to take people seriously when they sabotage their own credibility by looking for faults and repeatedly blow them out of proportion before a final result or actual evidence, defame a reputable clinic, create assumptions about clinic operations and about lack of more negative reviews about the clinic because the hundreds of patients aren’t posting them but they’re probably real and failures as well. 

    It’s like telling a 3-months pregnant woman that her child is ugly without having seen the born child...for lack of a better metaphor haha

    Do you have a sub-par result so far....yes, could it get better....yes

    I hope that within 10-months time and beyond you’ve gotten great improvement...not for the sake of ASMED or Dr Erdogan but for you and others that may put themselves thru similar stress and worry. And if after then it’s still a mediocre sub-par result then you deserve to have it fixed....but burning your bridged with the clinic at 4,5,6,7.5months doesn’t help you.

    p.s. It would help posting photos that aren’t so close-up, that show your full scalp again if you decide to post updated ones.

     

  8. 4 minutes ago, Bill - Managing Publisher said:

    Everyone, I need to chime in here because this is getting to be ridiculous. The bottom line is this, EVERY surgeon, even those who all of you consider the BEST have dissatisfied patience and less than optimal results. It’s impossible to battle thousand and that’s just reality. Just because a few individuals have had poor results, doesn’t mean that a surgeon is less than reputable or isn’t doing state of the art work.

    Now, I know it’s scary and disheartening when a patient comes forward and shares their results that are subpar. However, we need to take things  as a whole and not work only at the couple results that arent optimal.  

     Now by no means do I intend to discount any ones individual experience. How they feel is how they feel and if the results are poor, then my suggestion is to discuss their concerns with the doctor and give him a chance to make things right. 

    Dr. Erdogan (and Dr. Reddy  since he was mentioned)  is still doing outstanding work. In fact, Pat, the publisher of this community recently spoke with one of Dr. Erdogan’s  Steph and was very impressed by the work they are currently doing. I too have been impressed and the results presented both by patience and clinic on a regular basis are top notch. 

     Why advice to the original poster is to keep their procedure with Dr. Erdogan  as there is plenty of evidence demonstrating that he is still one of the best.   However, if he does choose to back out, that’s totally his right however,  if he paid a deposit, he may not get that back. Many surgeons don’t give deposit back so I’m just putting that out there as a general rule. 

     However, in my opinion there is no reason to be concerned and I personally would choose Dr. Erdogan  for my procedure in a heartbeat. 

    Bill

     

    Well said, Bill!

  9. 13 hours ago, PGDMMB said:

    Would you be honestly be happy with the way his hair is coming along? AFTER 3600 GRAFTS!

    I’m sure they do, and I’m not doubting the man has had some amazing results at his clinic but with all these recent reviews cannot be ignored. There is something obviously going wrong over there

    2-3 unhappy patient reviews, 1 not even at full maturity, does not make for Erdogan/ASMED all of a sudden avoid-at-all-costs paranoia, plus no one is ignoring them, quite the opposite, they are being discussed. Every doctor/clinic has produced mediocre results from time-to-time, stellar results are not guaranteed by anyone other than quack Docs that would also happily sell you the Brooklyn bridge.

    if ASMED does 3-4 surgeries a day then that is hundreds of patients or more a year, and if they are failing in their practices then there should be many more angry unhappy patient reviews/photos/videos on here and all over the web & YouTube, which has not been the case.

    And yes, google ‘International hairloss forum’ in the chrome browser and when you see a chrome translation pop up at the bottom of the page choose translate to English to see and read other cases by international visitors to Erdogan.

     

  10. Work looks clean and well done, seems like you stayed in Turkey for a while since you had day 12 photos at the clinic.

    Also, looking at your pre-op before photos I’m somewhat surprised the clinic/ Dr Erdogan say your donor capacity is 8,400, which seems high but is great if true, but to me it doesn’t look so compared to other cases and since your crown area seems to be receding further in the downward horseshoe pattern, anyway keep updating and happy growing!

     

  11. 9 hours ago, HT0416 said:

    I think you saying this will put alot of people of getting a hair transplant. If i had known this that i have a weird looking frontal area before my transplant i wouldnt of gone ahead. 

    I have seen many results from other surgeons which gives me hope.

    Just because you’ve seen many results from other surgeons does not guarantee that they will also give you similar results, NO HT surgeon on earth would guarantee 100% similar stellar results to 100% of his patients, unless they are frauds. Every persons biology, healing, growth rate is different. Go ahead and ask any of those doctors that give you hope if the will guarantee 100% a stellar result on the day of your consultation or surgery, see what they say.

  12. 9 hours ago, JeanLDD said:

    Probably in between looking at this pic, but also can see the hairline was lowered quite a bit plus the temple peaks were also filled. Its definitely not packed with density at all above that of other well known surgeons.

    Imo the guy is looking at another 1000 grafts or so for a perfect result. Don't see a huge deal in having to go through two procedures to achieve that when his desired hairline design was quite aggressive to begin with.

     

     

    image.thumb.png.8fa0a03e78f55c75c5a38074c756c67c.png

     

     

     

    I agree, the hairline looks to be lowered just a bit too low, whether he is at fault for requesting the hairline that low or whether It’s fully the Doctorsown design, he did have less than 3,000 grafts to accommodate both the lower hairline along with filling in the temples and temple points, the density is definitely not there he does look like he needed an additional 1,000 to 1,500 to achieve good density, but I would not classify at all a slight lack of density as “Botched”, irregular yes, botched no way.

  13. 4 hours ago, raptor said:

    Not sure what happened here but my other post got deleted. I find it troublesome that the moderators would delete my post because I am not happy with my FUE with Erdogan. I don't think that's being objective. I got FUE by Erdogan Asmed April 2018. Hairline is way too straight and low. People actually commented on this and it is quite embarrassing so I wear a hat now. I am now looking for a repair. If you want pictures or advice please pm me. 

    It’s not very difficult to post current photos to substantiate your claims dude.

    • Like 1
  14. 30 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

    I was on minoxidil liquid before and after my procedure. I quit a week before and got back on after two weeks.

    Thanks!

    Did you encounter much more hair loss that was gained from using minoxidil from having stopped it for the few weeks?....or is it a moot point since the post ht shedding is a given and difficult to notice either/or? 

  15. 13 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

    There’s nothing a patient can do to avoid shock loss however, taking finasteride and minoxidil will ensure the shock loss isn’t permanent. Having less native hair generally reduces the chance of shock loss, but that’s not something you can help unless you wait to go balder.

    Hey Melvin, were you on minoxidil (liquid or foam?) pre and post your HT’s?....And, how soon before an HT procedure did you have to quite minoxidil and how soon after your HT procedure did you go back on minoxidil?

  16. 1 minute ago, Kraistoff said:

    It’s just like the pain of losing my hair all over again but In fast forward! I know it will / should come

    back but cannot help worrying about my results in case I did something wrong  

    From your photos it doesn’t look as if you’ve done anything wrong, but, like I mentioned keep your scalp out of the sun or covered, also take a daily biotin supplement, eat a good clean protein rich diet, don’t wash your scalp too much drying it out and creating skin flaking and dandruff, only use a baby shampoo, do not use any hair styling products or hair fibers or dyes, and do not hit your head on anything. ?

×
×
  • Create New...