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Thanks! My most recent hair transplant was FUE with Dr. Bhatti in Chandigarh, India. Prior to that I had two strips with Dr. Alexander in Phoenix. You can see the specifics of each at my hair loss website.

 

Hello David,

I just saw your photos and they seem good. You had three surgeries? All this time I thought having many surgeries may be a bit too much for the scalp to handle. I guess not some people are lucky.

Have you thought about getting another procedure to add more density in the front?

Appreciate it. Good luck!

Density and longer hair styling options.

 

Unless you're planing on shaving your head to a buzz cut, there's no advantage to going FUE, and even then the lack of scarring is somewhat exaggerated.

Hello speegs,

Yes this is what I have read before also. It is a shame that doctors like Baubac I think still exclusively use FUE in their procedures. FUT may yield more density than FUE more chances than not.

Nioxin has little effect in terms of slowing down your hair loss or improving your situation. At best it is a nice shampoo that can create some volume.

 

The only shampoo on the market that might be helping with slowing down hair loss is Nizoral but should only be used 2-3 times a week and should be left on for a good soak.

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Nioxon adds volume and I consider it better than the other volumizers out in the market now.

Consider Lipogaine shampoo which has shown to be very good in regrowth for men. After some weeks I noticed impressive regrowth in my crown area.

If you listen to the Rolling Stones, get FUT, if you listen to Coldplay or Kanye, get FUE.

Hello KO,

Rolling Stones heh? I see. If I understand you correctly I think what you mean is if you want a bit more density go for FUT.

Hello Jroze,

Good question. In the past I have talked to several clinics about this same issue. Even though they generally recommend taking medications after surgery they all said not taking them would not accelerate hair loss. They informed me that many of their patients who decided not to take any meds post-op have yielded excellent results 8 - 12 months later.

You will be ok. Good luck!

Milo,

 

Armani/Baubac

Price $6/graft

3500 * 6 = $21,000

Hotel (3 nights) at around $100 per night,

Total = $21,300

 

Erdogan:

Price €2.50/graft (with current rate it is $2.70)

3500 * 2.5 = €8750 ($9437 USD)

Flight $1500

Hotel (3 nights) is included in price of HT

Total = $10,937

 

P.S. Feller still mostly does FUT. But you don't know if you even get Feller to operate on you. Dr. Blake Bloxham now works with Feller and does most of HTs.

Hello, HairDew,

Thank you for the reply and clarification. I see now what you mean! I should have known hotel and lodging is somewhat cheaper in Turkey.

As for Feller maybe it is possible to request him as your doctor? Could be a possibility.

No doubt prices are cheaper for Dr Erdogan. But the number of grafts to reach a result are questionable. Some cases of 4000+ grafts seem disproportionate to the area of scalp covered. The yield is not high like most docs in some cases. Some patients I know went back twice to get dense result by separating procedures.

 

Dr Baubac does produce high dense yielding results.

No doubt Baubac produces better results than Erdogan assuming Baubac's work is consistent. But still Baubac's prices are ridiculously high. I am interested in Baubac but seriously $21,000 is too much. A little too rich for my blood.

But when I called Baubac's office last week a spokesperson said his prices are comparable to any other clinic's. I doubt that now.

Hello primomusic,

Nioxin is amazing! My two friends, a male and female, use it and I have noticed much more thicker hair when I see them in the morning going to work.

Pay no mind to the trolls. Their negativity just blocks you from any means that helps you enjoy a good thick of hair.

Good luck, you will do fine!

I have almost no scar. It depends on the surgeon

Good to hear Dutchie. Hope you found a good resolution on your procedure. Good luck.

I would say all these results are on par with Dr. Edrogan and Edrogan charges far less money.

 

Dr. Feller was on my top list 9 years ago. I was considering him. But since then FUE became so much better, I'm no longer considering FUT. And Dr. Feller does only "touch up" or small FUE cases (according to his posts). Not to mention he charges $10 per graft for FUE.

Hello HairDew,

Glad you replied! Thank you. Regarding Erdogan charging less than Baubac, don't you think it is cheaper to travel to see Baubac in Califronia than all the way to Turkey? Especially if you already live in USA?

You also said Feller does "touch up" work. This reminds me, Rahal does this too. Anyway are you saying Feller does not do FUT dense packing?

I forgot to mention something that is critical. The only way to prove or substantiate these high levels of grafted density is to prove how much of the regrowth occurred and stayed. It's called yield verification.

 

And it must be verified by a third party not employed by the clinic making these ridiculous claims.

 

Just watch and see how many of these cases actually get verified.

Hello gillenator,

Thank you for that critical piece of info. I need as much info as I can get! But the question is, do the supposedly reputable clinics in the industry employ 'yield verification' also? If there were a list of clinics that use this verification I would love to research that in depth/

Thank you again gillenator.

Milo,

 

To be honest, Armani was always hit or miss for me. When he did FUT years ago, he did produce incredible results. As soon as he switched to FUE only, the results were not consistent. Some turn out great (mind you on guys who are 24-27 years old). But I have seen cases where he dense packed 4000 grafts into the front third on a 20 something and it looked see-through.

Hello HairDew,

Thank you for such an informative view. This is making me second think seeing armani, even confused about seeing him or not. What does not make sense is why armani did not stick with his original formula (FUT) that made them a superstar in the industry. Had they not switched to FUE they would've been branded the emperor of hair transplants. It is very disappointing.

Perhaps when I call them and inquire just for info sake, I may request FUT. But I would not count on it since I read they only work with FUE. But there is that chance.

Looked at many results of Baubac's transplants from last year...........

Hair Transplant / Hair Restoration Surgery Results - Hair Loss Forums

When you consider all these amazing results you can see why I am tempted to going to Baubac. But I am cautious also. Feller looks good to me I admit.

 

Unless you're just doing the temple corners or doing an overall density boost into your existing hairline.

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You are actually advocating more density? You, the one who warned that dense packing is dangerous??

Hi Bugatti,

Konior seems to be a fine specialist from what I have seen. You will have no issues with him at all. Just be careful getting advice from others who say one thing one day and something different another. You are in good hands with Konior and your hair will turn out to be great I am confident about that. Good luck!

That's ridiculous.

How is the possibility that more hairs survive in FUT than FUE ridiculous?

Why would a follicle last longer via fut than fue?

Hello mikeyhwk,

What I meant to say was more follicles survive under FUT than FUE. At least that is my understanding based on what I have read over time. It is possible that I could be wrong. I have also seen bad FUTs and good FUEs. This is an area that I need clarification in.

I had a fue done 1070 grafts. It wasn't enough to make my hairline look good but it was enough to make it look not bad, which means a lot to me.

 

Hello dagwood,

I can imagine what you are going though. Want to know if you had the option to get FUT instead? Did your doctor recommend FUE over FUT?

I'm in the same boat and want to decide whether to get FUT or FUE. I am leaning towards FUT based on what I have read about it because hair follicles last longer under FUT. WHat do you think?

Do a lot of research. Many people will post misinformation just to sucker you out of your money. So be vigilant and always go with your gut feeling.

I'm just about at my 4 month mark. I know I can't expect much at this point, but I wanted to see if it looks like I am somewhat on track? I do see some thin hairs sprouting through, but certainly not from every incision. I would have thought by this point, all the hairs would have sprouted through, but they would just be very thin and short?

 

The first 2 pics are my pre-op photos, and the 2nd two I just took last night at 4 months.

Looks good so far. Give it another 4 - 6 months and progress will come

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-you can usually get a good deal on online for nizoral and most pharmacies should have it too. Finasteride (you need a prescription) at a pharmacy.

 

 

But don't you have to be careful when ordering the stuff online? Do you know if there is an expiration date on these over the counter medications?

Milo / SMS7000 / Taurisrisen,

 

What the hell does that have to do with helping the original poster a 24 YO AA male looking for a FUE procedure?

 

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Stop trolling and insulting others. It is not our fault what you are going through. You got a lot of anger and negativity. I am reporting you now.

Anything over 80 is absurd to start with, and only someone like Milo / SMS7000 / Taurisrisen would continue to pursue it.

 

Gillenator,

I wouldn't even waste your time to explain it to this guy, he's obsessed with extreme density and will continue to argue about it under various alias forever apparently.

If you are here to accuse others of false facts like a 12 year old do not waste our time. People are here to get help and learn. The last thing we all need is a troll.

On my other threads you replied properly. But on this one you reply immaturely. Do us all a favor and do not visit my threads now and in the future.

If you are stuck with a bad transplant do not blame the rest of us for wanting to get a densely packed one.

It's not necessarily hard to dense pack grafts. This is exactly what Armani was known for, so I imagine if this clinic is an Armani associated clinic then they most likely have the same strategy, which is to dense pack young guys who have minimal hair loss with 4000 or so grafts in the hairline. It looks great when it first grows in, but what happens in a few years when they lose more hair and have already run out of donor after 2 sessions of 7000 total grafts in the first 3 inches of an extremely low, youthful hairline? Can dense packing the front be done? Yes. Should it be done? Most of the time, no.

 

Everyone only has a certain amount of grafts that can be used. The more you dense pack them into a smaller area, the less area you can cover.

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Hello BeHappy,

It is good to hear from mature and intelligent adults like yourself who invest their time helping others without insults. Appreciate it greatly. Thank you for your reply. Just to let you know this is not one of those smaller armani clinics. It is the one in Beverly Hills managed by Baubac.

I understand your explanation with the future risks in dense packing. But if you think about it other reputable clinics also employ the same strategy for dense packing. Don't they also run the risk of depleting the donor area for future needs?

IMHO I agree with you and I think dense packing can be done but only on those with enough donor hair to future-proof future shedding. What do you think about this?

Milo,

 

Do you have any idea what the area would look like to even fit 100 - 120 incisions? That's absurd. Even using a micro-sized blade, it would be nearly impossible if at all possible, even on a completely bald area.

 

But as I stated before, that level of density is unfounded and not necessary, celebrity or not. So to communicate that to a prospective new patient should sound a thousand bells within your realm of sound reasoning.

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Hi gillenator,

Appreciate the reply. Given his high dense pack grafts I wonder how Dr. Baubac is able to churn out many great looking successful results. The fact he is considered credible to some here is very strange indeed!

Today I will contact the spokesperson and pose him some questions about this. Will circle back to let you know his answers. Should be either informative or entertaining.

In any case I am very attracted to what I have seen thus far, I will not lie. That said I will probe this matter further.

 

The goal should be to give you a natural looking hairline, .[/b]

Hello, HTsoon,

I saw the images on your thread and the progress you made with your transplant. There I read you had FUE done. Even though you decided on FUE do you think FUT is better? There is some talk that FUT is better regarding follicular survivability where hairs have a better chance to grow under FUT than under FUE. What do you think?

Around what percentage of follicles survive more under FUT than FUE based on what you researched or experienced?

Is it safer in general to get FUT?

Is it also true that FUT is considered outdated technology and should not be considered given advances in FUE?

 

It's not that I would say that the frontal zone is more "stubborn" but I would say that it requires far more skill primarily because of the need to have the hairline rebuilt and restored. Graft selection, acute angulation and placement are critical along with the artistic talent required for a good and natural hairline design.

 

Hope that makes some sense...

Hi gillenator,

Yes that is more clear now. Thank you.

Hi,

 

I would start Biotin and MSM daily as these will help speed up growth and not cause shedding.

 

Hello spex,

Do you think that biotin can thicken hair in the long run? How long do you need to wait before seeing that happen?

'Diffuse' is a word a bit misused on the forum and should only apply to those with complete scalp thinning whereas yours appears to be 'good ole' regular MPB.

 

Mine is a bit on thin side but only noticeable under spotlights.

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Hello matt1978,

As I look at your images you do not appear to be thinning at all. Your transplant is very darn good to me.

'Diffuse' is diffuse no matter how you slice and dice it.