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How long do these shedding phases generally last for?

Does anyone know how long sheds last from dut and/ornizoral? Apparantly I'm still experiencing shedding. I thought it stopped but it hasn't. Thanks.

Makes a lot of sence and saved me some $$$. Thanks fellas.

There are mixed reviews (even studies) concerning topical finasteride and topical dutasteride usage. The one problem I do however see is that dosage must be kept low so that they are not systemically absorbed. What I'd like to know is: What are the most effective, yet safest doses of topical dut and fin? How effective are these topicals at blocking scalp DHT? I'm an average athlete who weight trains for a hobby. I do use steroids and I do have a source where we attain some of our products from online (not steroids, just some meds to counter-attack the sides associated with roids). This source online is very reliable and carries already made topical dutasteride and topical finasteride in the following doses: Actually everything they sell is made by them. And so far everything else we buy from them is good to go. So there's no need to worry about the legitamacy. Topical Finasteride 5mg/ml 150mg per bottle Topical Dutasteride 0.5mg/ml 15mg per bottle I'm not going to post the source, sorry. I'm just looking for some feedback to my questions.

bro, not offending you in anyway, but i think getting a haircut would help. My hair was pretty long (not as long as yours) but I had it in a pony tail. my frontal was receding, temples receding, and thinning, but ironically the long hair made my forehead look larger than it really was. when i cut my hair short, i styled it so that it was standing up in the front and faded on the sides. it actually looked a lot nicer and went with my receded hairline and better framed my face. most likely you'll cut your hair for a transplant anyway, so mind as well give what im suggesting a try. you'll see what a difference it makes. and i fully agree to jump on the meds right away. you'll be on them after a hair transplant anyway, so mind as well start now.

You are abnormal (outside of the first standard deviation). there's always an a*shole on every thread. u just continue making a fool out of yourself, no need for me to reply.

whats wrong with it is that it causes the irritation and pimples. it can get so bad to the point where people just stop using them, like myself.

Thought I'd give a quick update for all the bros here... I feel little pricks of hair and quite a few of them throughout my scalp. When I use the mirror woman use for their eye brows (the one that magnifies 10x) i see the little hairs just coming out of my scalp. Kind of looks like 3 day old beard coming in. This is especially gratifying to see in the hairline area of the transplanted hairs I lost.

By the way, my shed has pretty much stopped now. Does this mean the hairs that shed from the dut is a good sign and will rergow my hair thicker and fuller, including my ransplanted hairs?

Well, our hair goes through a growing phase and a resting phase(telogen) where the follicle will shed the hair. Then a couple of months later start to regrow again. However, normally we don't notice it because while some of our hair is shedding and starting the resting phase, there are plenty of other hairs on our head that are still in the growing phase. However, if all the hairs start growing at the same time like yours apparently did, they will likely start their resting phase and shed at the same time as well. This is what happened to me when I took the finisteride. I was lucky in that the finisteride had amazing results. It grew back all my crown hair. But it grew it back all at the same time So as a result, when the newly grown hair started its normal shed, they all shed at the same time and it was very noticeable. I went through about three growing/shedding phases before the growing patterns got broken up enough where it looked normal. Also as Abby pointed out from your original post, the hair gel and spray might have been holding all those hairs in place that were trying to shed. And the duta might also be contributing to the shed. So it could be a combination of all three. But I still think the most important factor is the fact that since the newly regrown hairs all came in at the same time, you will have to go through about three shedding phases until the hairs start breaking up their timing on when their growth and shedding phases take place. Ok now I understand. It makes a lot of sence and hope thats my situation. Thanks again bro. Really appreciate everyone's input here.

I told him that a few days before I went camping I stopped taking dut (was so busy with fam. and fuests I kept forgetting and forgot to take some for the trip) and withing days experienced this shed. He said Coming off dut causes a shed and to use betaderm and minox. I cant imagine dut's shed being that quick when you stop, and I cant understand the rationalle behind using betaderm.

I'm not so sure about that. The transplanted hair follicles won't be killed off by the dutasteride, but it could certainly make them go into Telogen phase. As I mentioned earlier, duta made me shed *everywhere*. That includes the sides and back of my head, as well as my body hair and beard. Although my beard didn't actually "shed", I have always had very thick and wirey beard hairs. During my period with duta, my beard turned from coarse, to very thin. The last time my beard hair was that thin I was only 14 years old. I hope this is the case. Its the only optimistic thought. My surgeon emailed me and said to use Betaderm twice daily. Is that a joke or what.

Yes it was slick bald.

Thanks Bill.

Thanks B-spot. I wasn't really concerned about poor growth as I am fully aware of the growth process until the 12 month mark. I was concerned because I lost transplanted hairs really really bad in 1 weeks time frame at 5.5mnth post-op. If this were month 2 or 3, as I experienced already, that shedding wouldnt concern me as its a given. But to shed and regrow, and to shed again even worse at almost month 6 is very alarming. If you want me to give an estimate, I would say approximately 1500 grafts shed in one week at almost 6 month post-op. It was superb and thick looking at almost 5month post-op as it grew from the initial stage. But now.... looking like month 3. Nonetheless I am waiting it out as I have pretty much no choice. I will continue with dut as the shed has stopped now and stopping dut will be fuitless. I REALLY HOPE THEY GROW BACK.

No problem. I didn't mean just an occasional use of hair spray and geel. But the fact that the stuff was in my hair holding it hard as a rock, then left there for an etire 7 days, then showering and clogging the drain with my hairs is what concerned me. When I came out of the shower it was drastically thinner and very much see-through (like 3.5 months post-op). You wont be able to make any observation from my pics. Im not speaking of the results, Im speaking of the shedding. Thanks for ure response. Im glues on this screen still looking for anwers.

lmao yeh same here for the body hair issue. I thought so because it happened after taking a shower of heavy hair spray and gel stuck in my hair for 7 whole days and then MASSIVE fallouts. Also thought the transplanted hair were probably still in a tiny wound stage., ie, not fully established like our natural hair follicles. Thus assumed it being effected by the chemicals after 168 hrs of leave-in. I'm using dut because it has a greater chance of regrowth for vertex and crown which I need. Not only stablization. I dont think fin can give me some regrowh in crown and vertex. However I just may entertain the thought of swapping over to fin for atleast 1 yr tryout. Thanks again bro. oh and btw, I have zero sides from dutasteride so far.

What my biggest worry is is that i had a lot of hairspray and gel practicaly glued to my hair when it was styled when we went camping. Then all of a sudden we were out of shower usage for 7 days, with my hair yucky, sticky and filled with gel and hairspray. I came home early and the first thing I did was jump in the shower. I have NEVER lost so much hair at once in the shower in my life. That's when the biggest difference from thickness to see-through thinness was seen. Was this possibly dut's shedthroughout that week but coudl not fall out because hairs were stuck together and all of sudden a weeks worth of shedding came out in the shower? Or did the hairspray and gel actually destroy my transplanted hair?

Thanks for your post its appreciated. So did you regrow what you lost? I experiences sheds from sides and back too from dut. Ironically it was actually mostly sides and back but stopped. I'm pretty confident dut/fin/nizoral/minox shedded hairs regrow back. But I'm not sure if it causes tansplanted hairs to shed, and if they do, do they grow back?

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Thanks bro. Bu thats the thing... I have already went through a minor shed with dutasteride. But lets say it is a dutasteride shed, they make the transplanted hairs fall/shed too? Also, its not my native hair. Im 100% its transplanted hairs. Its right in the area I had no hair to begin with, hairline and right above the hairs line. I understand its a 12 month process which is exactly why I have not mentioned my surgeon's name yet. In all fairness to the surgeon I will give this 12 months before I post any pictures and mentioning of my surgeon....because so far I am not impressed with my hair results and bumps. I had to post this as this was not expected nor a normal thing post transplant to lose hairs almost 6months postop.

I'm pleading here for some advise as I am exhausted by relentless researching and contacting my surgeon but to no avail. My surgeon keeps telling me to wait it out which is of no help at all. 2,800 FUE grafts restoring hairline and zone 2. The dilema is that at 4 months and 3 weeks post-op my hair was looking spectacular. Especially for that time frame, you could almost say it was looking like the 12 month post-op mark. I was loving it. However, at 5 months and 1 week post op my transplanted hairs started to slowly shed/come out/fall out. I figured its minor and probably normal. A few days for the first time ever I was appalled by the amount of hair loss I experienced in the shower!!! Now, at roughly 5 months and 2 weeks post op, my hair looks like it was at the 3.5 month post-op mark. I already went through my grafts shed in the begining, why is this happening again? I've been using dutasteride for about 4 months now. At first I was using 0.5mg 1-2 times weekly. Just the past three months I've increased it to 0.5mg every day. I can't imagine dutasteride causing shed to the transplanted hairs(?) Nizoral shampoo 2% 5x weekly for 2 months now. And occasional minoxidil. Is this normal? What are the chances of my transplanted hairs growing back? I went camping recently where we suddenly had no shower for a week. I had hairspray and gel sitting in my hair for a week. Thats when I noticed all those hairs falling out when I showered and saw the hue difference in my hairline and the thinning. Can it be from that? If so, will they grow back? Can someone please shed some light here, as I cant find any information on the internet regarding this.

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