Kez

>> was really trying to get some support and interest going in the UK later this year >> Not sure what you're sayin here, kidda. Are you proposing rustling up interest in HT among those who don't yet have any? Hmmm. I'd be happy to pass on my limited knowledge and experience, but when it comes to technical knowledge, there are blokes here who're HT encylopedias in comparison. Your prospective candidates would get more from checking out the forums, I'd think.

>>I posted an interesting article shown to me compliments of Peter Mac from DHI here. I think that this may be the chart mentioned earlier in this thread. -Robert >> No, mate. It's a chart of Hair loss against time, showing the difference between guys using propecia, and those not. DrFuzzy's citing a chart apparently showing how long propecia stays around in the body until it's half it's original strength ( or maybe DHT is back up to half it's non-propecia level ) And it's apparently much longer than I thought. DrF we wait!

This information about its half-life contradicts what I've read on the forums. I'd appreciate some direction to the data on this. I've been wondering about the long-term effect of propecia on general health, & although no-one on the forums seems to have a problem with it, I'm wondering if it may get the DHT levels down too low in some people ( like ME... ). A friend of mine was suffering from tiredness, and poor brain function, and his Doc diagnosed "low available testosterone" after a blood test. Now he's on a kind of "testosterone patch", and he reckons it's made a big difference.

Good summary article. The kind of thing a new-to-HT guy would find useful in an FAQ. Bosley's advertising clearly pays off.

I have to echo the disappointment of the guy who had laser eye surgery, as I had an upper eyelid job to remove wrinkles (Blepharoplasty) ,and the results seem to be marginal improvement. Like him, I went to a top-quality surgeon, in a "world-famous" centre in the UK which pioneered plastic procedures on WW2 pilots with severe burns, so I was expecting the best. I was certainly paying "top dollar", and the surgeon was recommended by a female friend who "looked terrific" with her facelift and eyelids job, and I looked forward to similar improvement. My 3500 FU HT on a NW5 has given I'd estimate a 75% improvement (which is good enough for me!) but the Blepharoplasty has given maybe a 10% improvement. Cost of HT: ??5,200 Cost of blephs: ??3,600 I have a feeling of considerable disappontment, especially as the surgeon concerned, a Dr. Parkhouse of the E. Grinstead McIndoe Centre, is a "top guy" with a reputation. I'm not sure what conclusions to draw here. Is this kind of surgery hit & miss? Or should I have gone to a surgeon who specialises in upper eyelids? ( Parkhouse does the whole face...) I remember one cosmetic surgery site recommending you go to a narrow specialist. After all, HT surgeons just do hair. Not sure that this will benefit any of you "young guns" still looking smooth and young, but Robert said "any experience welcomed"....

I have to echo the disappointment of the guy who had laser eye surgery, as I had an upper eyelid job to remove wrinkles (Blepharoplasty) ,and the results seem to be marginal improvement. Like him, I went to a top-quality surgeon, in a "world-famous" centre in the UK which pioneered plastic procedures on WW2 pilots with severe burns, so I was expecting the best. I was certainly paying "top dollar", and the surgeon was recommended by a female friend who "looked terrific" with her facelift and eyelids job, and I looked forward to similar improvement. My 3500 FU HT on a NW5 has given I'd estimate a 75% improvement (which is good enough for me!) but the Blepharoplasty has given maybe a 10% improvement. Cost of HT: ??5,200 Cost of blephs: ??3,600 I have a feeling of considerable disappontment, especially as the surgeon concerned, a Dr. Parkhouse of the E. Grinstead McIndoe Centre, is a "top guy" with a reputation. I'm not sure what conclusions to draw here. Is this kind of surgery hit & miss? Or should I have gone to a surgeon who specialises in upper eyelids? ( Parkhouse does the whole face...) I remember one cosmetic surgery site recommending you go to a narrow specialist. After all, HT surgeons just do hair. Not sure that this will benefit any of you "young guns" still looking smooth and young, but Robert said "any experience welcomed"....

I think it makes little difference, as long as you take it once every 24 hours; it stays active in your body for about that length of time.

Since my HT last May, I've gone further down the road myself, and last month had an upper eyelid "Blepharoplasty" job, to reduce the wrinkling and slack skin that comes with age. Botox is next. If you can afford it, I see no better way of spending on yourself. After all we renovate our houses, smarten up our cars. Damn, the HT took ten years off my looks, and, as said, we need all the help that we can get.

It depends what you use the moose for. I was fortunate enough to see something of Canada when I had my transplant, and got to hear some "backwoodsman" stories about "unconventional" human-moose interaction, similar to the stories we hear about Australians and sheep. If you ever find yourself in this situation, I would think the main thing is not to get over-excited, just go easy on the moose, as large amounts of male hormone flooding into your bloodstream can have a damaging effect on hair follicles.

Try www.drugstore.com It's been recommended several times in other threads on this forum. If you do a search on the topic you'll find warnings about buying from sites which supply drugs from India & other places, which are impure, ineffective, and positively harmful. Check these issues out.

Shit happens man! Phew... Good luck and get back to 100%..

Olsjar, Arfy - he give good advice. I can only sympathise with how you feel as a young guy. My hair started to go in my thirties, and I let it run down all the way to a NW5 ( completely bald on top) without being tootroubled by it. I minimised the "bad appearance" by cutting the hair quite short, but avoided the drastic measure of shaving the head. I personally don't like this style at all. But when my face also started to age, I decided to act, and had a big procedure of 3500 grafts. Looks good. The advantage of waiting ( if you can ) until this point is that you're unlikely to suffer much further hair loss, since the sides & back of the head never go bald, and the transplanted hair won't be subject to the hormonal body processes that cause hair loss on top ( do some research on why this is ...)

Well spotted, HairBeThere. This is a case for Sherlock Holmes..... If parable's still in the frame, let's hear from him.....

Brighton is almost exactly 50 miles due south of the great metropolis, right on the ocean. In fact, it's often referred to as "London By The Sea". Lots of trains run between the two, if you're planning a trip. Pretty town. V. cosmopolitan, very "alternative" culture - might even be called "the Amsterdam of England" ( apart from the bloody traffic - Amsterdam has tamed the motor-car )

Phew! That's a new one on me, mate. Shelling out thousands for the procedure ( and flying mega-miles to get it ) is a financial hit enough. If you feel flush with money, you can always send a donation to those like myself who furnish such valuable information on the forums ( don't laugh). Just make out a blank cheque to: "Kez...somewhere in the UK...6 months out from a 3,500 procedure for which he paid mega bucks and could do with a replenishment of funds"..... Thank you.

And cut out sex too. No screwing, no masturbation...nada! It's the only way to inhibit that testosterone damaging the MPB follicles.....

Just my 2 cents worth - I had 3,500 grafts and the swelling started around my eyes only, about 5 days after surgery. It gradually got worse, my eyes almost closing up . I didn't apply any ice or anything - just let nature take it's course. After about a week of this, it subsided, and disappeared within a couple of days. Not a problem really, but you need to keep a low-profile if possible. I took time off work; it would have been very conspicuous at the workplace...

There are also forums specifically for women . You need to go a google on something like "women hair loss forum".

Sorry. Thought this was a new thread; started repeating meself..

Amen, Gill.

I can't accept such a blanket condemnation. As I posted somewhere else, I could quite well see a talented surgeon cut his teeth at one of these clinics, and leave once he felt confident enough, in order to set up on his own and do a much better job. A lot of successful businesses follow this route. And how does an aspiring hair surgeon get experience, unless he signs up with some umbrella operation? It's how every business ( and medical profession ) works. Some may be inattentive, and unquestioning of what's going on, and pick up "bad habits", but everywhere I've worked, I've always found ways in which I could do something better. So it depends on the individual. (I'm not promoting the hair mills, having gone to one of the forums "top guns" for my own HT. Just want to flag up other possibilities )

Blood supply to the hair roots could be an issue. It could help to "stand on your head" ( no kidding!) or do some yoga posture which gets your feet higher than your head.( lie on yer back near a wall and "climb" your feet up it ). You'll actually feel the blood surging in your scalp. This was recommended to me years ago in a book I bought on "how to stop going bald". After my initial enthusiasm, I got lazy, and let things slip. Years later I end up bald on top, and have now had a transplant. So, young feller (wheeze, puff ) don't make my mistake! Git the blood flowin' ( However, this could be a complete red herring, but what d'you have to lose ? )

My puffiness started about 5 days post-op, but only lasted a week. My Doc injected something to puffup the scalp for his work, as well as the anaesthetic - I've no idea if it was what you've mentioned. I think you'd be advised to get back to your surgeon over this; he's probably got previous experience of it in his patients, and would be able to advise you. Sorry I can't help; sounds pretty unpleasant, just when you're expecting things to settle down after the HT trauma itself......

I had a couple of stubborn crusty areas well after the bulk had gone. The water treatment seemed to make no inroads. My physician's nurse recommended Johnson's Baby Oil ( or any quality kitchen oil ) to soften them. Rub in before bedtime ( use an old pillowcase ) then shower out in the morning. The nightlong effect worked for me; they gave up and dissolved.

This has been discussed before, but is worth repeating. We forget that what goes on inside our own heads is particular to us, and others have heads full of their own concerns. In my own case, I was a NW5, totally bald on top, and cut my remaining hair shortish (anything else looks crappy, methinks ). Then had a 3,500 FU session. So on returning home, my bald head now had this scrub of 1/4 inch stubble all over it. Duing the first week I laid low under the baseball cap ( and behind wraparound shades, as my eyes were swelling up like Porky Pig's ). Then I "came out" but said nothing to friends and neighbours, and NOBODY NOTICED. In time, as the grafts mostly stayed in, they've grown to about an inch all over the top, and NOBODY HAS NOTICED. I've had to TELL people I've had an HT. We think they're watching our every corner, when in reality they're preoccupied with masses of their own thoughts and worries. . . . The Buddha said: "we make the world with our thought" ....