Old Baldy

FWIW, for all three of my HT's, most growth occurred after 5 months.

FWIW, I was the same way with my three HT's.

I guess if you want temporary coverage it would be ok. I doubt my HT doctor would have done it though. Knowing him, he would have laughed and said "okey dokey" and not done it.

Mike: This is nothing new. For many, many years testosterone has been suspected of contributing a little bit to MPB.

I just saw your pictures Scorpian. I think you'll be fine. Your HT is growing in very well IMHO.

FWIW, I think those NO products are very healthy for you. I've been taking arginine capsules for years. They are precursors to NOS and I think they are very good for you.

Yes, there is old age baldness that I guess we'll experience if we live long enough.

Interesting about Nizoral Spex. Thanks for the info.

FWIW, my HT doctor said I could start back on supplements right away. I did after every HT and have never had excessive bleeding FWIW. (I have no idea about the laser comb though.) Plus, I ate so healthy it would make you sick to your stomach how healthy I ate for the first two weeks everytime I've gotten surgery. (Any kind of surgery, not just an HT.) Every HT, I healed quickly (i.e., I've had three HT's, the last one on July 15th). You've got to eat your fresh fruits and veggies till the cows come home after surgery IMHO. (Of course, we should all eat more of that stuff anyways.) My HT doctor bragged how well he made the donor scar and stitched it up, and how well I healed after my last two HT's. (I just smiled and complimented him, but knew I had a BIG part in that by eating so sickeningly healthy for those first two weeks.) I eat fairly healthy anyways but I really kick it into high gear whenever I get surgery. I honestly think it helps ALOT in the healing process. I'm sure it doesn't hurt.

Bill: Does Dr. Keene always take her strips so high in the rear area?

Diverso: You, as you know, have aggressive balding. You have to go to a HT doctor to get a professional opinion. NW7's can sometimes get fairly decent coverage after multiple surgeries. But you should email some pictures to some of the recommended doctors on this site. Go to the calculation section of this site and you'll see that for a NW6 or NW7 you'll probably need at least 7,000 to 8,000 grafts for decent coverage. (This is assuming a 40 grafts per sq. centimeter density.) Here's the link to the graft calculation: http://www.hairlosslearningcen...ments/mm/introa.html

JS: My surgeries hurt for the first few days in the donor area but weren't that bad. You'll probably be just fine in that regard. Yes, the first 3-4 months are not great but it isn't as bad as you are thinking IMHO. Most likely, you'll be fine going with the doctor you are choosing. I've had three surgeries, the most recent about 10 days ago. Overall, total grafts equalled about 7,600 and I was about a NW5 when I began this HT journey in September, 2004. If I can handle it I'm sure you, or any of the other guys, can handle it also. It's basically minor surgery that won't leave you inactive for very long. But the "doldrum" period can be a pain in the butt. Not the end of the world though. Good luck, I'm sure you will be able to handle the "hassle" part very well!!

Remember mmhce that Bill, Joe and Spex all had over 7,000 grafts to achieve density that was acceptable to them. So drugs and treatments didn't work well enough for them, as well as for thousands upon thousands of other balding men. That's just a plain fact for pete's sake. You have to honestly admit that Joe Riley is, at least, on par with their hairloss? I wish I could tell Joe Riley differently but I assume he wants an honest, heartfelt answer.

Drugs and treatment rarely, if ever, provide growth to shiney bald spots. (And roughly 2/3's of his scalp is shiney with the temples going also.) This is not bad advice. It is truthful advice. Go to the calculation section, and for a NW7, he needs at least 7,000 grafts to achieve a 40/sq.cm result. He has fine hair and maybe will need more. Don't lead Joe down the primrose path. He clearly has aggressive balding. Be honest with him on your advice. Isn't ironic you mention Bill, Joe and Spex, who all needed at least 7,000 grafts to bring their hair back to acceptable density levels in their minds?

No.