all you wanna know about MHR - Boston!

[PD]

hi everyone,

 

I just met visited MHR in Boston( Wellesly Hills ). I thought my impressions, experience will help someone..

 

This is actually my second visit.. I arrived there on time but was called in after 45 mins.. last time i visited it was the same situation, i hr wait in the waiting room.. (its a work day and took a time off - i get paid hourly so it matters a lot to me) These guys tell me that their time is valuable so i should let them know in advance if i am late or not coming.. and they do this to me!

 

Anyway, i didnt mind that, met the sales guy, who was a little rude when i first talked to him over phone but after i met him he looked nice explained well, answered all question, showed his transplantation on himself - lot of companies are doing this - have a sales guy undergo HT ! - for all we know they might have taken best care possible for him which regular people like us maynot get.. i met the doctor too, William Magdalin, he seems pretty nice guy , maybe not much of experience.. but i kind a liked him honestly, one thing though is that these guys DONT use microscopes, he tells me they allow technicians to choose whatever magnification spects or whatever they want to use..he claims that its not really useful to go with Microscope.. but he didnt convince me..

 

After that, this sales guy, Steve, starts talking about the cost, his numbers were: 1500-$9k,1800-$9.9K, 2000-10K, 3000-15K !!! So I started saying " dont you think its a little about he market rate?" he goes, "DONT TALK TO ME ABOUT PRICE".. what the ?? I was shocked the way he responded to my question, SO RUDE ! I didnt know what to say ! I was quiet for the rest of the time.. and just walked out.. Call me sensitive, but I DO NOT WANT A CLINIC TREATING ME TO BE SO RUDE .. One probably shouldnt worry about a Sales Guy, but I say, if an employee is irresponsible in treating a patient, who knows how irresponsible the technicians who are cutting my FUGs are going to be !! I just dont get it what goes on in the minds of the employees of such chains ? or are they just looking for millionaires and billionaires ???

[PD]

hi everyone,

 

I just met visited MHR in Boston( Wellesly Hills ). I thought my impressions, experience will help someone..

 

This is actually my second visit.. I arrived there on time but was called in after 45 mins.. last time i visited it was the same situation, i hr wait in the waiting room.. (its a work day and took a time off - i get paid hourly so it matters a lot to me) These guys tell me that their time is valuable so i should let them know in advance if i am late or not coming.. and they do this to me!

 

Anyway, i didnt mind that, met the sales guy, who was a little rude when i first talked to him over phone but after i met him he looked nice explained well, answered all question, showed his transplantation on himself - lot of companies are doing this - have a sales guy undergo HT ! - for all we know they might have taken best care possible for him which regular people like us maynot get.. i met the doctor too, William Magdalin, he seems pretty nice guy , maybe not much of experience.. but i kind a liked him honestly, one thing though is that these guys DONT use microscopes, he tells me they allow technicians to choose whatever magnification spects or whatever they want to use..he claims that its not really useful to go with Microscope.. but he didnt convince me..

 

After that, this sales guy, Steve, starts talking about the cost, his numbers were: 1500-$9k,1800-$9.9K, 2000-10K, 3000-15K !!! So I started saying " dont you think its a little about he market rate?" he goes, "DONT TALK TO ME ABOUT PRICE".. what the ?? I was shocked the way he responded to my question, SO RUDE ! I didnt know what to say ! I was quiet for the rest of the time.. and just walked out.. Call me sensitive, but I DO NOT WANT A CLINIC TREATING ME TO BE SO RUDE .. One probably shouldnt worry about a Sales Guy, but I say, if an employee is irresponsible in treating a patient, who knows how irresponsible the technicians who are cutting my FUGs are going to be !! I just dont get it what goes on in the minds of the employees of such chains ? or are they just looking for millionaires and billionaires ???

[PD]

Couldnt find "edit" button !!!

 

read "i hr" as 1 hr.

 

read " dont you think its a little about he market rate?" as " dont you think its a little above the market rate?"

 

typing errors, sorry !

[Son of a Plug]

I am sure this will be appreciated by many here and hopefully read by the clinic too.

 

I am convinced these places couldn't care less about microscopes or the fact they are charging way above what's even ethical in my opinion.

 

Just like car dealerships....for every person that walks onto the lot with tons of reasearch under their belt there are a dozen others that walk in and blindly accept whatever they're told and sold.

 

The sad thing is that if you buy a car that's a lemon you can get rid of it easier than a bad HT.

[Mahair]

I am actually still recovering from a transplant from that company. It has been very disturbing to me to find out that I may have been overcharged and botched up as well.I was impressed with the Dr. and went forward only to have several issues including a last minute hairline drawn which was much lower than we had discussed during the initial consult, bumpiness , redness , swelling , black eyes ,surgical loss now shock loss to the midscalp area and depression over this . I can only now try to hold my life together and pray the results are'nt too bad and that I can live with them or still function with any enthusiasm. I also asked about microscopes prior and was told they were microdisected.However after surgery I was told that microscopes were overkill and that his staff can work better without them and I should get great results.Two months later I am a wreck and seeing a Phd.The funny thing is the main concern I had was "any complications?" The answer "There are none."

[NW]

Hang in there buddy !

 

That shock loss sucks ! & I have been there, but it came back and after 4 mo's or so I was pretty jazzed seeing the new stuff.

 

IMO give it till month 6-7 before you judge.

 

NW

[vocor1]

MHR sucks. Bosley sucks. You might get a good HT, but chances are better that you will be dissatisfied. Why not increase your odds for a good or great HT by going to a top doc? Their prices are usually better too. It's true.

 

Mahair:

Dude, I'm sorry that you had to go through all that. You put your faith and trust in people that supposedly swore to an oath of ethics. So much for that. Goddamned lying bastards. Not a word strong enough to express how low of human life those people are.

That doesn't help your situation. What might is seeing a top doc to discuss possible repair work. I know this costs more money, but can you put a price on self-esteem or "I made a wrong right again". All that is left to do is recover.

And it can happen. Believe that.

And as NW said, give it some more time. The first few months are tough as hell as transplanted hairs fall out. We've all been through it. If after time, you are still dissatisfied with your results, then consider pursuing the course of action that I've just written about.

Hang in there!

 

vocor1

Knowledge is Power

If the worst question is the one never asked, then the worst answer is the one never shared.

[PD]

Mahair,

 

Sorry to hear about you.. shock loss as we know is common, there might have been worse things that could happen that didnt happen.. so be happy. I am sure everything will come out good in the end.. as for the hairline.. its unfortunate, these freaking aXXholes dont give a damn, do they? We all should learn something from this, not just for a hair transplant, but in general which i think is to : "have courage to say no" even if it means after we enter the surgery room.. i know its easy to say.. in fact i find myself a lot of times, failing to say "no" in many things in life and then repenting later.. these blooksuckers know how to trick us.. because thats what they mastered over the years.. they know its hard for us to say "no" in the last minute.. so everyone, beware & BE FIRM.. its "OUR HEAD" for God sakes !

[vocor1]

The joke is those mosquitoes aren't like you or me. You should treat others like you want to be treated, right?

To them, you are a FINANCIAL TRANSACTION and not a person.

If they don't view you as a human being, then why should you view them that way?

We aren't talking about a "grey area" here. We are talking about intimidation and lying and flat out taking advantage of people.

At some point, we have to trust SOMEONE. Just don't let it be a hair mill rep.

Maybe it'll be easier to say "NO" when you realize how they view you. You are right -- because in the end, you owe more to yourself than to anyone else.

Ahh, enough commentary from me.

 

vocor1

Knowledge is Power

If the worst question is the one never asked, then the worst answer is the one never shared.

[DaveOH]

I went for a consultation about hair transplants at MHR in Columbus. I met with a consultant first. He'd had like a 500 graft done and probably didn't even need it. He was helpful though. We didn't talk price but everything I read from them showed them at around market price. I was told I could meet with the doctor for free and was dissappointed when the sent me to the consultant. He eventually, however, asked if I wanted to meet with the doc. I met with the ht doctor and he seemed like a good guy. He actually told me that he didn't think I should get a ht because of my age (wasn't really wanting one at the time, just curious) and that I should get on propecia. He wrote me a subscription and I was charged $75 for the visit (since I didn't want a procedure). I was naive about everything then and didn't know much about hair loss yet. He could have taken advantage of the situation but didn't. I don't think I'd get a ht there, however. I just didn't like the feel of the place.

[Guest]

ALARM BELL!!!!!!!!!

 

No mircoscopes?! That alone should scare you far far away. He does not belive in them? Dude if I were you I would walked out right then and there.

 

To even think about going through with that is disater. He must still be doing outdated plugs. Shame, nothing more then a chop shop. You are a number.

[Guest]

Relative to the interesting experiences, good and bad, about the chains in the HT field. My advice is do not have a HT without consultation with at least 3 doctors. Ask every question, hold nothing back! Ask to talk with and visit some of that doctor's patients. Believe little or nothing a salesperson tells you, he or she is employed to convince you to proceed. Always see the doctor in person, if possible, in the consultation before you schedule. If this is not possible, send photos of your head to the doctor and discuss with the doctor his impression. If you follow this route, remember you will then need to do a final in-person evaluation the day of surgery.

 

Know all your options, advantages, and disadvantages. Do not "impulse buy" in something this important. Remember you can live without a transplant easier than you can with a bad result. The world of hair restoration has come a long way since the first follicular unit hair transplant was done by us in 1988. Unfortunately in my opinion not shared by everyone, the commercialism characterized by heavy advertising and its expenses tend to put pressure to sell the transplant to often poorly informed patients. So just beware and be aware and fully educated to make a decision about what is best for you. You are all that matters.

B.L. Limmer, MD/jal

 

Dr. Limmer

[PD]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Ask every question, hold nothing back! Ask to talk with and visit some of that doctor's patients. Believe little or nothing a salesperson tells you, he or she is employed to convince you to proceed. Always see the doctor in person, if possible, in the consultation before you schedule.

 

Dr. Limmer, You are very much right.. We must be all thankful to the technology of Internet without which, I have no idea what I would have done to my idea. and more importantly, support, encouragement and involvement of doctors like you is very much appreciated deep down all our hearts..

[PD]

good advice !

 

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Ask every question, hold nothing back! Ask to talk with and visit some of that doctor's patients. Believe little or nothing a salesperson tells you, he or she is employed to convince you to proceed. Always see the doctor in person, if possible, in the consultation before you schedule.

 

 

 

Dr. Limmer, You are very much right.. We must be all thankful to the technology of Internet without which, I have no idea what I would have done to my HEAD. and more importantly, support, encouragement and involvement of doctors like you is very much appreciated deep down all our hearts..

 

#!$@%$@%^*&(&%^ - Someone help me - how do i edit the msg ?

[arfy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Do not "impulse buy" in something this important.

Great advice, Dr. Limmer.

 

(To PD: after your message is "posted" a little "pencil and paper" icon is visible in the row of icons (symbols) at the top of your post. If you click it, it will allow you to edit your message. After about a 5 minute grace period, the post will automatically add "edited by PD on August 8th" etc. If you do a lot of editing, you might want to remove multiple "edited by" messages. You can also have the option of deleting posts (when editing) in the upper right hand corner. Try it, I think you can edit or delete at any time.)

[Joecifus]

I've done a tremendous amount of reading on this. From the general consensus - do NOT use a hair mill. Go to a qualified MD. Please see my profile in the Mentor section for complete details as to what I've found to look for and for pix of my progress.

 

By the way - mine cost 1/2 what you show above - and done by probably by one of the top 3 surgeons in the hemisphere.

[vocor1]

The joke is, top docs cost less than hair mills and do a better job too.

 

Top docs may have varied opinions on density, age, hairline design, etc. In the end, you have to be comfortable with living with their work. They won't deface or ruin you. Some think aggressive is okay and others won't do it. Doesn't talk to their skill, just their ideas.

 

You see a few top docs, you'll see that their opinions vary a little. They'll all do top notch work, which is such a great thing to know going in. Then you choose who you feel makes you most comfortable and offers the type of result that you can live with.

 

vocor1

Knowledge is Power

If the worst question is the one never asked, then the worst answer is the one never shared.

[PD]

everyone,

 

thanks for your input..

 

Vocor1,

 

I am just beginning to realize that... indeed the top doctors are reasonably priced than the Chains/hairmills..

 

I was constantly calling and visiting doctors and their patients, up until now. It seems to me that each doctor has his own opinion and his own way of doing things.. (which is good) and we get to choose whose plan/model we like the most..

 

The guy in MHR (Steve) did not dare call me again.. hopefully he realized his mistake and be more courteous moving forward.. you know, its this "headstrong" nature that they are part of huge chain and nobody watches how they behave that I hate the most..

 

arfy,

Thanks for the tip, i will try it now