Jump to content

Dr. Williams participation on this community


Recommended Posts

  • Administrators

As some of you may know, a few weeks ago I suspended Dr. Williams' recommendation on the Hair Transplant Network and his membership in the Coalition pending more information about the consistency of his current patient results.

 

This suspension came about as a result of a patient's complaint that was posted on this forum. This patient's concerns have since been resolved by Dr. Williams to the patient's satisfaction.

 

I'm also confident that Dr. Williams has remedied the factors that led to this patient's dissatisfaction and that his clinic is now providing consistent and high quality refined follicular unit grafting.

 

To see a couple of examples of his recent work click below.

 

1,836 grafts in the hairline

 

1,353 grafts in the hairline

 

I believe that he and his staff provide the best hair transplantation services in Nevada. Therefore I have reactivated his recommendation on the Hair Transplant Network.

 

Given that Dr. Williams does perform ultra refined follicular unit grafting, in time he will also be reconsidered for membership in the Coalition.

 

I appreciate that Dr. Williams did step up to the plate and responded to this patient/poster's concerns both in private and on this forum.

 

I encourage him and his assistant who posts as Aida to continue to post examples of their surgical results.

 

I hope that the members of this forum can appreciate the reasons for this decision.

 

Pat

Never Forget - It's what radiates from within, not from your skin, that really matters!

My Hair Loss Blog

Sharing is what keeps this community vital. Please join in. To learn how I restored my hair and started this community, click here.

Follow our Community on Twitter.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Administrators

As some of you may know, a few weeks ago I suspended Dr. Williams' recommendation on the Hair Transplant Network and his membership in the Coalition pending more information about the consistency of his current patient results.

 

This suspension came about as a result of a patient's complaint that was posted on this forum. This patient's concerns have since been resolved by Dr. Williams to the patient's satisfaction.

 

I'm also confident that Dr. Williams has remedied the factors that led to this patient's dissatisfaction and that his clinic is now providing consistent and high quality refined follicular unit grafting.

 

To see a couple of examples of his recent work click below.

 

1,836 grafts in the hairline

 

1,353 grafts in the hairline

 

I believe that he and his staff provide the best hair transplantation services in Nevada. Therefore I have reactivated his recommendation on the Hair Transplant Network.

 

Given that Dr. Williams does perform ultra refined follicular unit grafting, in time he will also be reconsidered for membership in the Coalition.

 

I appreciate that Dr. Williams did step up to the plate and responded to this patient/poster's concerns both in private and on this forum.

 

I encourage him and his assistant who posts as Aida to continue to post examples of their surgical results.

 

I hope that the members of this forum can appreciate the reasons for this decision.

 

Pat

Never Forget - It's what radiates from within, not from your skin, that really matters!

My Hair Loss Blog

Sharing is what keeps this community vital. Please join in. To learn how I restored my hair and started this community, click here.

Follow our Community on Twitter.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Senior Member

Being a resident of Las Vegas, my take is that you're right on, on this Pat.

 

In previous posts I stated that I thought Dr. Williams response here about that patient complaint situation was inadequate. Although he waivered on being "responsible", he did in his statement hedge that a tech was kind of to blame and was replaced. Bottom line was that Dr. W was not being diligent in regards to his overseeing of the procedure.

 

Here's my current and only concern with Dr. W and his Medical Hair Institute:

 

It is a beautiful office, but I'm wondering if they have more than one surgery going on at a time?

 

And in conjunction with that concern, the Dr. lists FIVE other locations in the southwest. Is this because he himself travels and does the surgeries at those locations?

 

Are other doctors employed at the Medical Hair Institue? What are their backgrounds?

 

What is the standard they must meet?

 

When consulting is it CLEAR if anyone other than Dr. Williams is doing the surgery?

 

Is Dr. Williams goal to create a large network of transplant sites like some other large CHAINS?

 

All that said, I will say that based on what I've seen here in Vegas, that Dr. Williams is doing some very top notch work and if he promised to oversee a procedure from beginning to end and top to bottom, I would not hesitate to reccommend him as a surgeon. In the end, what is his NEW protocol? If that is demanding on one him as a surgeon, is he willing each surgery day to be up to the task?

 

Thanks Pat for keeping on it. With some offices expanding due to demand and Doctors training under the wizards of the industry (think Doc Shapiro and brother for example), I think it's fantastic that new surgeons are being brought up to speed and unleashed to further help the dire need for competent procedures. The twenty or so we all talk about can't be the only ones to take on the entire population. So in my opinion, some of the questions I listed are not only directed at Dr. Williams, but are necessary and relevant as we all demand more and more from each artist.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Administrators

Bezane,

 

Thank you for your well thought out reply and for your input. The issues your raise are very important considerations.

 

Hair Transplant "Mills" come is various sizes ranging from national to mini regional mills. I have in the past dropped physicians when they changed their focus from one high quality clinic to a mini mill with multiple locations with work farmed out to their newest prot???©g???©es trainee physicians.

 

Fortunately, Dr. Williams does not fall into this category. He was previously doing consultations only at multiple locations in Southern California, with all surgeries being done in Las Vegas. But he is now focused solely on Las Vegas. He also performs all the surgeries himself.

 

I believe he is very sincere about providing quality results and has his quality control in place. He and his staff also have the opportunity to show that this is the case by sharing their work on this forum.

 

I really feel for Dr. William's dilemma in competing with the commercial operations who have offices in Las Vegas and who promise or say virtually any thing to get a patient into the chair.

 

There are so many considerations in recommending a truly top flight surgeon -ranging from their ethics to their commitment to the latest patients friendly techniques. And the bar for the true "Gold Standard" is moving higher and leaving some behind. No one can rest on their laurels these days - at least not on this forum.

 

All the best, Pat

Never Forget - It's what radiates from within, not from your skin, that really matters!

My Hair Loss Blog

Sharing is what keeps this community vital. Please join in. To learn how I restored my hair and started this community, click here.

Follow our Community on Twitter.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Senior Member

Pat,

 

I feel you and Dr. Williams have addressed the previous and ongoing areas of concern admirably and openly. From his actions and results I wouldn't hesitate to recommend him as a provider or become his client if I were in that part of the country.

 

Regarding your comment on independent and chain affiliated practitioners "competing" within a particular geographic market, I have thought about this many times. For example, Boca Raton, FL in and of itself is not a large city although it is a very affluent one. In addition to the practices of Drs. Charles and Bauman there, there is also a Bosley surgical office. Likewise the MHR facility in Minneapolis goes "head to head" with Dr. Shapiro (a daunting task).

 

Obviously any and all of these providers draw patients from throughout their region, other states, and the world. I also understand that for specialties such as this practitioners and offices are likely to be in our major metro areas rather than more distant/less prominent locations.

 

Phil

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Senior Member

bezane,

 

Thank you for your comments and I wish to answer your questions and speak to your concerns. I do all the transplants in my practice and have never had another doctor work for me in hair restoration. I have had many doctors wish to join my prctice, but I have refused taking on a physician employee or partner.

The locations in California are dermatology offices belonging to a physician patient of mine, who wants me to have the use of these offices for his referrals and other patients who do not wish to travel to Las Vegas for their transplants. It has become difficult for me to utilize these offices and these locations are no longer listed on my website. I had the use of a plane for awhile and it was possible to travel easily to these offices, but that situation is no longer available. My Las Vegas practice takes all my time now.

 

Unless I were to join other Coalition members in some sort of practice opportunity, I have no aspirations to become a "chain." My philosphy is quite simple. I, personally, visit every potential patient and answer their questions to the best of my knowledge, making every effort to clearly describe what I can accomplish for that particular patient. I guarantee a natural appearnace after the transplant has grown in, but I cannot always assure a patient that I can accomplish all the hair volume that he or she may expect with only one procedure. I accept full and total responsiblity for my technical staff and hold them to the highest standard. Oversite seems easier than it really is. For example, how tightly a graft (follicular unit) is held in the forceps by a particular technician or how hard the technician pushes the graft is difficult to assess. Moisture of a graft is critical, but how moist is moist enough to prevent injury is another example of a parameter that is extememely important but hard to measure or police. Ultimately, it boils down to the integrity, ethics, and quality of the doctor you place your trust in that he will staff his practice with the best help possible. Before a technician can be on my team, he or she must have many years of experience and excellent references from reputable hair restoration doctors. I have, often, flown technicians across country before I will use technicians available locally. Only the best technicians in the business can accomplish the ultra-dense packing. Every graft must, also, be prepared under steroscopic microscopes in my practice and this, too, requires special expertise.

The patient who posted his dissatisfaction regarding his hairline received my response. I merely tried to guess at a cause for the patient's area of poor growth discussed on the Forum. It may not have been any of the reasons I discussed, but I did what I felt necessary to prevent a similar occurrence by terminating the technician involved. Since I document who works where on my patients scalp, how many of each size grafts are prepared by each technician, and monitor every patients results, I can make a decision that I hope will prevent a similar occurrence. I, now, have hired a technician supervisor to assist me in evaluating the technicians work every minute of the procedure. This strict oversite will help me ensure the best work possible. Unfortunately, unlike when I was performing life and death surgeries on children, it's not all about me anymore, but about the team. It is not possible for the doctor to cut and place all the grafts for procedures that take 40+ "man hours" to perform. Those of us doing the best work must always remain diligent to each and every patient, but as long as there is the human element involved, mistakes may occur and corrections may be required. Another problem with evaluating your new staff is that it takes 8-12 months for a final result. Fortunately, my current staff members have been with me long enough that I know we are perfoming ultra-dense packing with excellent results. Your input is appreciated and I hope this clarifies your questions and concerns.

 

Thank you,

 

Joseph Williams, MD, FACS

Advanced Medical Hair Institute

Las Vegas, NV

drwilliams@need-hair.com

888-357-0888

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Originally posted by Pat - Publisher of this Community:

As some of you may know, a few weeks ago I suspended Dr. Williams' recommendation on the Hair Transplant Network and his membership in the Coalition pending more information about the consistency of his current patient results.

 

This suspension came about as a result of a patient's complaint that was posted on this forum. This patient's concerns have since been resolved by Dr. Williams to the patient's satisfaction.

 

I'm also confident that Dr. Williams has remedied the factors that led to this patient's dissatisfaction and that his clinic is now providing consistent and high quality refined follicular unit grafting.

 

To see a couple of examples of his recent work click below.

 

1,836 grafts in the hairline

 

1,353 grafts in the hairline

 

I believe that he and his staff provide the best hair transplantation services in Nevada. Therefore I have reactivated his recommendation on the Hair Transplant Network.

 

Given that Dr. Williams does perform ultra refined follicular unit grafting, in time he will also be reconsidered for membership in the Coalition.

 

I appreciate that Dr. Williams did step up to the plate and responded to this patient/poster's concerns both in private and on this forum.

 

I encourage him and his assistant who posts as Aida to continue to post examples of their surgical results.

 

I hope that the members of this forum can appreciate the reasons for this decision.

 

Pat

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Originally posted by just tranpalnted:
Originally posted by Pat - Publisher of this Community:

As some of you may know, a few weeks ago I suspended Dr. Williams' recommendation on the Hair Transplant Network and his membership in the Coalition pending more information about the consistency of his current patient results.

 

This suspension came about as a result of a patient's complaint that was posted on this forum. This patient's concerns have since been resolved by Dr. Williams to the patient's satisfaction.

 

I'm also confident that Dr. Williams has remedied the factors that led to this patient's dissatisfaction and that his clinic is now providing consistent and high quality refined follicular unit grafting.

 

To see a couple of examples of his recent work click below.

 

1,836 grafts in the hairline

 

1,353 grafts in the hairline

 

I believe that he and his staff provide the best hair transplantation services in Nevada. Therefore I have reactivated his recommendation on the Hair Transplant Network.

 

Given that Dr. Williams does perform ultra refined follicular unit grafting, in time he will also be reconsidered for membership in the Coalition.

 

I appreciate that Dr. Williams did step up to the plate and responded to this patient/poster's concerns both in private and on this forum.

 

I encourage him and his assistant who posts as Aida to continue to post examples of their surgical results.

 

I hope that the members of this forum can appreciate the reasons for this decision.

 

Pat

Login/JoinWelcome, just tranpalnted [Logout]

 

just tranpalnted

New Real Hair Club Member

Posted May 02, 2006 07:02 PM

I HAVE BEEN READING THE BOARD AND I WOULD LIKE TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT THE MOST AMAZING DOCTOR AND EXPERIANCE THAT I HAD WAS WITH DR. WILLIAMS AND HIS STAFF. IT HAS BEEN ONLY 2 SHORT MONTHS SINCE MY PROCEDURE. OF COURSE I AM ANXIOUS FOR THE RESULTS. I HAD OVER 3,000 GRAFTS PUT IN. I WOULD LOVE TO SEND PICTURES BUT I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DOWNLOAD.!!! NOT VERY COMPUTER SMART. HOWEVER, THE POINT TO THIS DISCUSSION IS THAT DR. WILLIAMS IS VERY PROFESSIONAL AND HAS AN AWESOME STAFF. THE MAN CARES ABOUT YOU AND YOUR NEEDS. HE IS A CLASS ACT. HIS STAFF AS WELL AS HIMSELF PUT YOU AT EASE. HE LISTENS TO YOU AND ANSWERS ALL YOUR QUESTIONS. I WAS INTERVIEWING A COUPLE OF DOCTORS AND NOT ALL OF THEM WOULD COME OUT TO TALK TO YOU. YOU HAVE THE SALES CONSULTANT GIVE YOU THE PARTICULARS. WELL, DR. WILLIAMS COMES OUT AND TALKS TO YOU LIKE A FRIEND. WHEN I WAS SO UNSURE WHETHER OR NOT TO USE HIM HE CAME OUT OF SURGERY THE SECOND TIME I WENT TO HIS OFFICE TO LISTEN TO MY CONCERNS. HOW MANY DOCTORS WOULD DO THAT ??? HIS WORK IS EXCELLANT. I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE WITH THE RESULTS NOT FROM PICTURES BUT IN PERSON. YOU CANT TELL THEY HAD A TRANSPANT. MAYBE, YOU ALL DONT KNOW ME BUT I HAVE NO AFFILIATION WITH DR. WILLIAMS EXCEPT FOR THE PROCEDURE HE PERFORMED. HE IS GREAT AND EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD SHOULD KNOW THAT. HE IS WORTH COMING IN FROM ANOTHER STATE TO GET THE WORK DONE. WE ALL NEED TO BE CAREFUL WHEN MAKING THIS DECISION AND LET ME TELL YOU HE IS THE REAL DEAL. SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY CRITICSM I AM SURE IT IS UNJUST CAUSE I KNOW DR. WILLIAMS IS THE KIND OF GUY THAT WOULD MAKE GOOD IF YOU WERE NOT HAPPY. HE EVEN GUARANTEES YOUR SATISFACTION. NOT MANY DOCTORS WOULD EVEN SAY THAT. THEY WOULD TAKE YOUR MONEY AND SAY SORRY. DR. WILLIAMS LISTENS AS I SAID OVER AND OVER. I AM ALWAYS ASKING HIM QUESTIONS WHEN I GO IN FOR LASER THERAPY. I DRIVE HIM CRAZY SOMETIMES.!!! BUT HE LISTENS AND SAYS NOT TO WORRY. THIS IS THE KIND OF HAIR TRANSPALNT DOCTOR WE ALL NEED. SO IF YOU ARE IN DOUBT WHO TO USE CALL "THE MAN" DR. WILLIAMS 702-257-0888. IT WILL BE WORTH IT. I HOPE AT SOME POINT TO DOWNLOAD PICTURES BUT LIKE I SAID IT IS ONLY 2 MONTHS RIGHT NOW. SO I AM STILL IN THE EARLY STAGES. LIKE THE DR. TELLS ME I HAVE TO BE PATIENT. SO DOWN THE ROAD YOU WILL ALL HEAR ABOUT MY RESULTS. BUT FOR THE EXPERIENCE RIGHT NOW IT WAS GREAT AND I THANK DR. WILLIAMS AND HIS STAFF. HE HAS MY RECOMMENDATION AND STAMP OF APPROVAL. IF MY FINISHED PRODUCT IN A YEARS TIME LOOKS ANYTHING LIKE WHAT I HAVE SEEN ON OTHER PATIENTS HE PERFORMED THE PROCEDURE ON, I WILL BE ONE HAPPY PERSON. I AM VERY EXCITED FOR WHAT LIES AHEAD.....DONT HESITATE... AND I WELCOME YOU ALL TO FIND OUT YOURSELF HOW GOOD HE IS AS WELL AS HIS STAFF

Posts: 2 | Registered: March 07, 2006

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Senior Member

No offense Just Transplanted, but you post the same stuff twice, you state yourself that you have no clue what the results are, just that you had a swell time getting a large piece of your scalp removed and 3000 holes punched in your head. But given the recent turn of events in regards to the doctor we speak of you sound like nothing but a cheap schill that will make it difficult for a really good surgeon to get any credibility here.

 

Geez, just when I thought it was safe to go back in the water, we have someone that "finds" this forum "after" a surgery.

 

If the forum is going to be simply an advertising place then it's worthless.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Senior Member

And furthermore, if my surgeon ever left my procedure to go make a sale I would kill them.

 

And the laser therapy wacky machine is silly.

 

Pleez. Why bother with this nonsense.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Senior Member

Thanks Bezane.........Although, I know I was quite euphoric after my procedure, I just think some of this is "too" much sugar. I am all for Dr. Williams posting his results and having his patients post here, but alas..... I want to see better photos, and more of them.

I will say that I do beleive Dr. Williams does do solid work, and I am glad that he has many happy patients.

I think he will eventually earn his way back into the coalition.

Go Cubs!

 

6721 transplanted grafts

13,906 hairs

Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro

 

Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Senior Member

Yeah B spot, I think you were part of this forum pre Dr. Shapiro, not sure, but it just strikes me as phony that someone types all caps two months after his surgery just in time to throw a bone in for Dr. Williams.

 

I feel so strongly about the integrity of this forum and those that even reached out off the board to talk with me. Don't like it one bit.

 

So I'm now compelled to press on with my research, thanks to Mr. Just Transplanted. can anyone tell me about the wacky laser machine. Is Williams the only one to use it? If it works why is this dude still waiting for growth after two months. Is this gizmo a fraud? At this point I wouldn't trust a doctor that put in this laser chamber and flipped the switch.

 

Is it FDA approved?

 

Who did the clinical trials?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Senior Member

Agreed.....................maybe "Just Transplanted"'s response is for real, maybe not. It's tough having to discern on a forum such as this but with so few posts...............and so much at stake for potential hair transplantee's, I always error to the side of caution.

 

I've passed replying to Pat's inital post on Dr. Williams a few times because I felt biased due to reading the other thread regarding the dissatisfied HT patient(with good reason) of Dr. Williams. Dr. Williams "seems" to have addressed the issue. However, from the work I've seen posted by Dr. Williams assistant over the past month or so, I have not seen anything that remotely impresses me. I'm not second guessing Pat's comments about Dr. Williams......I believe he has the knowledge and ability to perform first rate FUT's. Before I'd give my nod and recommend someone consult with him, I'd like to see MUCH better before and after results...........same background, same angles.......easy to compare.

 

Bez- as for laser therapy (maybe related to the laser comb)........I've asked many questions about it and have done a little research but cannot find anywhere close to "proven" results. I would also like to learn more.

Hairbank

 

1st HT 1-18-05 - 1200 FUT's

2nd HT 2-15-06 - 3886 FUT's Dr. Wong

3rd HT 4-24-08 - 2415 FUT's Dr. Wong

 

GRAND TOTAL: 7501 GRAFTS

 

current regimen: 1.25mg finasteride every other day

 

My Hair Loss Weblog

 

Disclaimer: I'm not a Doctor (and have never played one on TV ;) ) and have no medical training. Any information I share here is in an effort to help those who don't like hair loss.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Senior Member

Bezane, Bank, I think the level of surgery being performed by Dr. Williams is solid. What I think happened is 2 things: They really did not track patients very well with clear digital photos, and in the past month or so they have scrambled to get some good patient results out here on the forum (because of what happened with dissatisfied). I have tried to politely suggest that Aida do a better job posting clear, high resolution photos, but I think they are just starting to really focus on this issue. I hope in the coming months that we see the type of work Pat has seen in person, simply because all of us will benefit from having more doctors to choose from.

I will add that I have not been overly impressed with the photos I have seen, either.

Bezane, I joined this forum in Feb 2004 and had my HT Oct 2005, so I understand what you are talking about. I also feel strongly about the integrity of this forum, and I feel a sense of responsibility to ensure that the best doctors are given their just due, and others are to be watched carefully.

I am sure Dr. Williams will begin to post some quality photos, but as we all know, it takes some time for new patients to start to see results. I think they thought they would present some photos and be back in, but they are finding out it is slightly more difficult now.........

Go Cubs!

 

6721 transplanted grafts

13,906 hairs

Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro

 

Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Administrators

Just Transplanted,

 

Welcome to our forum and thanks for sharing your positive experience. Please understand that those who are regulars on this forum are typically skeptical of the first time poster who comes on to the forum to plug their surgeon - especially in ALL CAPS, which is the online equivalent of yelling.

 

I hope that you do stick around and in time post photos of your results.

 

Hairbank, B Spot and Bezanne are three of the most committed members of this forum and believe strongly in keeping this forum credible and educational. Therefore any posts that seem promotional and or self serving are normally not taken at face value. Having seen my share of people attempting to covertly sell their clinics in this manner, I appreciate their support in rooting out such shills.

 

I think if you stay involved with this community you will come to appreciate their knowledge and stewardship of this forum.

 

My sense is that you are genuinely excited about both your surgery and doctor and just wanted to give him an online vote of confidence. As patients who have had good experiences we can appreciate how you feel.

 

Keep up posted and best wishes, Pat

Never Forget - It's what radiates from within, not from your skin, that really matters!

My Hair Loss Blog

Sharing is what keeps this community vital. Please join in. To learn how I restored my hair and started this community, click here.

Follow our Community on Twitter.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...