Senior Member BaldReaper Posted February 7 Senior Member Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, BackFromTheBrink said: Absolutely true. However, it's my belief. It's the belief of some hair surgeons. You definitely say it's not the case. How did you reach that conclusion? I have never seen anyone supporting this opinion with facts and proper research, only with superficial explanations like the one you gave, which is completely fine for you to believe it but not good enough for me to base my opinion on, the only thing that supports the correlation between creatine and hairloss is an outdaded research paper from 15 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member duchaine Posted February 7 Senior Member Share Posted February 7 4 minutes ago, BackFromTheBrink said: Absolutely true. However, it's my belief. It's the belief of some hair surgeons. You definitely say it's not the case. How did you reach that conclusion? It is a very simple sillogism (hope the spelling is correct): Considering that the only research on the correlation between creatine and dht says that creatine increases dht, and considering that dht increases hair loss, it is probable that creatine increases hair loss. so, if everything else stayed the same and you noticed hair loss when you supplemented creatine, likely creatine exacerbated your hair loss. quite and simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member duchaine Posted February 7 Senior Member Share Posted February 7 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BaldV said: I have never seen anyone supporting this opinion with facts and proper research, only with superficial explanations like the one you gave, which is completely fine for you to believe it but not good enough for me to base my opinion on, the only thing that supports the correlation between creatine and hairloss is an outdaded research paper from 15 years ago. “I have zero research to support what I say but the research that support your statement is old”. A single study is not enough to say to prove something at 100%. btw you have zero study to support your theory. Quite funny you say that the study is old. Does a research have an expiration date? Edited February 7 by duchaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BaldReaper Posted February 7 Senior Member Share Posted February 7 (edited) 34 minutes ago, duchaine said: “I have zero research to support what I say but the research that support your statement is old”. A single study is not enough to say to prove something at 100%. btw you have zero study to support your theory. Quite funny you say that the study is old. Does a research have an expiration date? You seem really triggered in this post Did creatine make you lose your hair bro? Edited February 7 by Melvin- Admin Removed words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Jackdaniels Posted February 7 Regular Member Share Posted February 7 Another one might think that even gym can accelerate hair loss since it increases your testosterone when you lift weights. So what would you do ? Would you stop gym? A man needs testosterone to be healthy and have a normal sexual life. With low testosterone you will feel sick and impotent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member BackFromTheBrink Posted February 7 Regular Member Share Posted February 7 10 minutes ago, Jackdaniels said: Another one might think that even gym can accelerate hair loss since it increases your testosterone when you lift weights. So what would you do ? Would you stop gym? A man needs testosterone to be healthy and have a normal sexual life. With low testosterone you will feel sick and impotent But we are discussing the impact of creatine on DHT (not free testosterone - that wasnt seen to change in the old study). You're right though, more gym, increased testosterone, increased DHT. Given my belief and anecdotal evidence, I don't think taking creatine gives enough benefits compared to the risk. However, i would rather have long-term fitness and health than hair so I use the gym, despite it increasing testosterone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member BackFromTheBrink Posted February 7 Regular Member Share Posted February 7 51 minutes ago, BaldV said: I have never seen anyone supporting this opinion with facts and proper research, only with superficial explanations like the one you gave, which is completely fine for you to believe it but not good enough for me to base my opinion on, the only thing that supports the correlation between creatine and hairloss is an outdaded research paper from 15 years ago. That's absolutely sensible - you see no evidence, so choose to believe there isn't a link between creatine and hair loss. As far as I can see, there has not been a study to assess the impact to taking it on hair (the 2009 South African study didn't set out to do that). It's a risk/reward assessment, and you choose the benefits are greater than the risks. You are obviously welcome to share your belief, but it's exactly that - there is little proof either way and certainly not enough to make a definitive statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted February 7 Administrators Share Posted February 7 Come on guys, you should be able to disagree without name calling. 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member GeneralNorwood Posted February 7 Regular Member Share Posted February 7 (edited) I can tell for sure, that hairloss studies have low budget. There is so much to find out Hypothesis that creatine + gym increases testosterone and it leads to increased level of DHT seems logical. Taking creatine without training, i don't think it would change hormones level so much. But all of this should be studied. Edited February 7 by GeneralNorwood 1 My first Hair Transplant - Eugenix 3514 Grafts (720 grafts on the temples) - Dr Priyadarshini Das Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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