Regular Member Alex Grey Posted December 8, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 8, 2023 My donor area after 4 months is getting enough hair but isn’t able to cover all the baldness it looks less full and a lot of skin is visible I had a 5500 FUT FUE transplant is there a case for over harvesting or if it is because I have curly hair please provide guidance thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BaldDude Posted December 8, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted December 8, 2023 need before photos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted December 8, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted December 8, 2023 It’s possible it’s shock loss. Do you have pics immediately post op of the donor? 1 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Alex Grey Posted December 9, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, BaldDude said: need before photos Photos before transplant and just after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Alex Grey Posted December 9, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Gatsby said: It’s possible it’s shock loss. Do you have pics immediately post op of the donor? Thank you for your comment photos before transplant and just after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted December 9, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted December 9, 2023 It's really hard to tell from the pics. It could be shock loss. If your donor area had much more density prior to surgery then shock loss is the most likely culprit. What has your surgeon said? I would be guided by him/her. It really takes up to 12 twelve months for everything to heal and bounce back to normal. 2 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted December 9, 2023 Moderators Share Posted December 9, 2023 It looks like your hair loss was dipping far down the back before the hair transplant. Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Alex Grey Posted December 10, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 10, 2023 20 hours ago, Gatsby said: It's really hard to tell from the pics. It could be shock loss. If your donor area had much more density prior to surgery then shock loss is the most likely culprit. What has your surgeon said? I would be guided by him/her. It really takes up to 12 twelve months for everything to heal and bounce back to normal. The surgeon isn’t in contact for this conversation as soon I get the information from my surgeon, would update it here I’m hoping it to be shock loss not a case of over harvest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Alex Grey Posted December 10, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 10, 2023 12 hours ago, BeHappy said: It looks like your hair loss was dipping far down the back before the hair transplant. That is correct made a mistake of not having my transplant earlier Things like Covid and other things such as job and financial issues had me pending guess it’s done when it’s written Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted December 10, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted December 10, 2023 52 minutes ago, Alex Grey said: The surgeon isn’t in contact for this conversation as soon I get the information from my surgeon, would update it here I’m hoping it to be shock loss not a case of over harvest If you only had FUT it won’t be over harvested. 1 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Alex Grey Posted December 10, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, Gatsby said: If you only had FUT it won’t be over harvested. I had FUT + FUE (along with beard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member general-etwan Posted December 10, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted December 10, 2023 You had a low dipping region beforehand, and they took many grafts from the area during the HT. This is simply the result. Yes, it is significantly thinned and will remain so now. 1 Instagram: ethanlculver Eugenix (Drs. Das/Somesh/Vinita) | 11,102 grafts | NW 6/7 | 28 yrs old | 2022/2023/2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Alex Grey Posted December 18, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 18, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 6:05 AM, Alex Grey said: The surgeon isn’t in contact for this conversation as soon I get the information from my surgeon, would update it here I’m hoping it to be shock loss not a case of over harvest Spoke to him about donor area in person he was vague about it said if the hair was already thin there and taking out even few grafts would make it look less thinner said will have to see if there was a shock loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Alex Grey Posted December 23, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 23, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 8:46 AM, general-etwan said: You had a low dipping region beforehand, and they took many grafts from the area during the HT. This is simply the result. Yes, it is significantly thinned and will remain so now. They told me at the time of surgery that I may have about 600-700 reserve grafts from donor and 600-700 grafts from beard for future use is it possible or were they just telling me just like that . I think the only thing I can do now about it is to get a scalp micro pigment done there and hope that the finasteride may make it thicker or dutasteride when I go on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member general-etwan Posted December 23, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted December 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Alex Grey said: They told me at the time of surgery that I may have about 600-700 reserve grafts from donor and 600-700 grafts from beard for future use is it possible or were they just telling me just like that . I think the only thing I can do now about it is to get a scalp micro pigment done there and hope that the finasteride may make it thicker or dutasteride when I go on it I find these numbers to be so subjective; there is no objective fact to them. How many grafts someone has “left” is just a matter of opinion, really, depending on the goal and how much thinning someone is willing to accept. Just keep an eye on the situation for now and continue to evaluate options. Instagram: ethanlculver Eugenix (Drs. Das/Somesh/Vinita) | 11,102 grafts | NW 6/7 | 28 yrs old | 2022/2023/2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted December 23, 2023 Administrators Share Posted December 23, 2023 How long ago was surgery? It’s hard to judge when before its short and after it’s long. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Alex Grey Posted December 25, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/23/2023 at 11:38 AM, general-etwan said: I find these numbers to be so subjective; there is no objective fact to them. How many grafts someone has “left” is just a matter of opinion, really, depending on the goal and how much thinning someone is willing to accept. Just keep an eye on the situation for now and continue to evaluate options. I’m keeping an eye on the donor area it seems full sometimes perhaps because of my curly hair but then the overall look from far away still makes my crown look a lot thin I’ll upload the recent picture for donor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Alex Grey Posted December 25, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/23/2023 at 8:59 PM, Melvin- Admin said: How long ago was surgery? It’s hard to judge when before its short and after it’s long. 5th month would be completed now 27july had my transplant also if you can comment on something — I do not get any or hardly any hairfall from the donor region while moving my hand in there but the moment I touch my transplanted area for either topical 5% minoxidil or just some coconut oil for anti dryness I get quite an amount of hairfall on my fingers this is only and only when touching the transplanted region for minoxidil or shampooing Talked about it to doctors they said they can’t say anything and just to wait they might grow back but it’s really concerning me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member bigmistake Posted February 8 Regular Member Share Posted February 8 Can you share the clinic name in the DMs. I also had a failed HT in india where the surgeon cheated me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted February 8 Moderators Share Posted February 8 On 12/25/2023 at 5:04 PM, Alex Grey said: I do not get any or hardly any hairfall from the donor region while moving my hand in there but the moment I touch my transplanted area for either topical 5% minoxidil or just some coconut oil for anti dryness I get quite an amount of hairfall on my fingers this is only and only when touching the transplanted region for minoxidil or shampooing How long have you been using minoxidil? Could you be having a minoxidil shed? If you were using it before the HT and stopped for a while to have the HT and then started up again a few months later, that could be it. Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor A_4_Archan Posted February 8 Valued Contributor Share Posted February 8 In my opinion, the initial error your doctor made was agreeing to perform the procedure on you, given your status as a high Norwood patient with limited donor hair. However, if the doctor did communicate in advance about managing your expectations regarding the results, then that aspect is acceptable. It's common for both native and transplanted hairs to shed, with around 80-100 hairs falling out daily being considered normal due to natural hair cycles. However, if the shedding exceeds this range, it could be a cause for concern and you should than take some precautionary measures. Check Out My Hair Transplant Journey --> My Thread 3611 FUE Grafts With Dr Kongkiat Laorwong | Norwood 5 | 2nd May 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Lenzman Posted February 9 Regular Member Share Posted February 9 17 hours ago, A_4_Archan said: It's common for both native and transplanted hairs to shed, with around 80-100 hairs falling out daily being considered normal due to natural hair cycles. However, if the shedding exceeds this range, it could be a cause for concern and you should than take some precautionary measures. Wow that’s a lot of hair to lose naturally per day. I never knew. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Alex Grey Posted February 26 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 26 (edited) On 2/8/2024 at 10:07 PM, bigmistake said: Can you share the clinic name in the DMs. I also had a failed HT in india where the surgeon cheated me. I’m on month 7 and my hair are still growing here and there i cannot exactly tell if it is failed yet or not—or if I have been cheated im yet to take my first PRP next week and I have switched to oral minoxidil lately as a slow dosage for starters i.e. 1.25 alternative days so I am keeping patience and hoping that oral minoxidil combined with PRP will provide better results Edited February 26 by Alex Grey Month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Alex Grey Posted February 26 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 26 On 2/8/2024 at 10:13 PM, Al - formerly BeHappy said: How long have you been using minoxidil? Could you be having a minoxidil shed? If you were using it before the HT and stopped for a while to have the HT and then started up again a few months later, that could be it. It was probably topical minoxidil that causing the reaction. it may have been delayed shedding but I think topical minoxidil was the culprit. it was also causing me a lot of irritation with itching and severe dandruff I had to fight my clinic to stop as they aren’t very supportive of oral minoxidil nevertheless I have stopped topical minoxidil and switched to oral and my hair shedding is low now . It’s still there but much lower I haven’t gone in full dosage yet but starting it slowly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Alex Grey Posted February 26 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 26 On 2/9/2024 at 9:01 PM, Lenzman said: Wow that’s a lot of hair to lose naturally per day. I never knew. Yes it is common searched both on internet and personally with doctors too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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