Senior Member BaldReaper Posted March 20, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 20, 2023 8cm from the middle of the brow is above average height, so its definitely not low 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member cheesy1986 Posted March 20, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, BaldV said: 8cm from the middle of the brow is above average height, so its definitely not low That's good to know, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member stephcurry30 Posted March 21, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 21, 2023 Hairline and height look fine. You can't go any aggressive because of your high Norwood 5 scale. Everything looks good. Stop stressing and try to pick up some hobbies to keep you mind at ease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Xanadu Posted March 21, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted March 21, 2023 8 hours ago, cheesy1986 said: Thanks for the suggestion. If I am measuring from the correct point it is around 8cm, maybe a touch under. This is roughly similar to my tip of nose to chin, which I think is the rule of thirds? 8 is fine. Actually I think its the perfect distance for you. The only thing I would change in a perfect world would be how it hits your own hair in the sides. rather than straight I would have kept the rounding going so it looked a bit more natural. Just like you also say. However, it is not a big thing and I would not even get it corrected if it was me although it would probably not be hard to correct with just taking a few out in the sides and putting to strengthen the mid hairline or elsewhere. So all in all I think the hairline is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Xanadu Posted March 21, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted March 21, 2023 On 3/18/2023 at 4:44 PM, cheesy1986 said: Hi everyone. Just a quick update. It's been a tricky month for me since my procedure. I'm still having major doubts about my hairline position and shape. I'm thinking it is more the shape than the height, but it's a bit of both. I think it is too straight and when on the side profile it looks like it joins my temples too low, particularly on one side. There is no recession built into the hairline to join my receded temples. I think its called the frontal temporal transition. Picture 2 below. Thoughts welcome. Still have quite a lot of redness too in certain lighting On a positive note. This looks longer and denser than the average 1 month results imo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Eureka Posted March 21, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 21, 2023 Try to keep posting on here monthly until the final result. This could be really helpful for some who have the same feelings early on after their procedure 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Xanadu Posted March 21, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) Here is an illustration of your hair lenght and density compared to other notable examples from the forum after 1 month (Etwan and Bandit). Also, you have virtually no redness! Edited March 21, 2023 by Xanadu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member cheesy1986 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 23, 2023 Hi everyone. Still really struggling with this. It's massively impacting my mental health, confidence, sleep etc. I really am unsure about the procedure and would desperately like to go back to beforehand. Reaching out for any further support as I'm in a pretty dark place at the mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ostein Posted March 23, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted March 23, 2023 26 minutes ago, cheesy1986 said: Hi everyone. Still really struggling with this. It's massively impacting my mental health, confidence, sleep etc. I really am unsure about the procedure and would desperately like to go back to beforehand. Reaching out for any further support as I'm in a pretty dark place at the mo To some degree, I can empathize how you feel. It's not worth the loss of sleep and the negative impact on your mental health. You might consider the Joe Rogan approach and just shave it. Or maybe just work with a therapist. I don't think your HT looks bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted March 23, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, cheesy1986 said: Hi everyone. Still really struggling with this. It's massively impacting my mental health, confidence, sleep etc. I really am unsure about the procedure and would desperately like to go back to beforehand. Reaching out for any further support as I'm in a pretty dark place at the mo Hi mate - remember you’re I. The very infancy of your HT. At 9 weeks, things haven’t even kicked off yet. Looking at your photos, you’re well ahead of schedule so this will be a home run result for sure. Also 8cm is not a low hairline at all, and it doesn’t look low at all from the photos. It’s very normal to feel this way at this stage of the game, and in 10 months time you’ll look back and laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member cheesy1986 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Berba11 said: Hi mate - remember you’re I. The very infancy of your HT. At 9 weeks, things haven’t even kicked off yet. Looking at your photos, you’re well ahead of schedule so this will be a home run result for sure. Also 8cm is not a low hairline at all, and it doesn’t look low at all from the photos. It’s very normal to feel this way at this stage of the game, and in 10 months time you’ll look back and laugh. Thank you. I realise 7.5-8cm is not super low but I do have a large head so there's a lot of scalp above the hairline. Unfortunately I think the clinic did the hairline at least 0.5-1cm below my remaining few native hairs, which seems like a really odd decision when I was as extensive baldness as I am. It feels and looks all wrong to me after years of seeing myself in the mirror. Thanks for your reply though, I really appreciate it. I'm worried this is just heading in one direction for me and I've got a beautiful young family and life. I am really struggling to deal with it, especially every time I see a mirror or my reflection. I'm getting help from the doctors to cope with this but the feelings are very strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ScottishGuy21 Posted March 23, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted March 23, 2023 Once it grows out it will appear much lower. I was a NW5 so couldn’t go too aggressive either with hairline height. I 100% get your concerns but trust the process and in a few months you’ll regain that confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member cheesy1986 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, ScottishGuy21 said: Once it grows out it will appear much lower. I was a NW5 so couldn’t go too aggressive either with hairline height. I 100% get your concerns but trust the process and in a few months you’ll regain that confidence. I'm worried it is already too low (for my head shape), and yes I agree that it will appear even more so once it grows. This is my concern they have given me too aggressive a hairline already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ScottishGuy21 Posted March 23, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted March 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, cheesy1986 said: I'm worried it is already too low (for my head shape), and yes I agree that it will appear even more so once it grows. This is my concern they have given me too aggressive a hairline already Looking at your pics I think the position looks fine. It doesn’t look too low. On the hairline straightness it’s still impossible to tell at this stage. You’re still in the early part of your recovery and bound to be a little sceptical about things. Once you do get some growth you’ll feel my much better about things. Try not to stress too much. I know it’s easier said than done when every time you walk past a mirror you’re tempted to look (Been there myself!). But the added stress isn’t good for your health or your new hair. It’s good you’re getting things off your chest in here though , that’s what the community is for 👍🏻 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member cheesy1986 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, ScottishGuy21 said: Looking at your pics I think the position looks fine. It doesn’t look too low. On the hairline straightness it’s still impossible to tell at this stage. You’re still in the early part of your recovery and bound to be a little sceptical about things. Once you do get some growth you’ll feel my much better about things. Try not to stress too much. I know it’s easier said than done when every time you walk past a mirror you’re tempted to look (Been there myself!). But the added stress isn’t good for your health or your new hair. It’s good you’re getting things off your chest in here though , that’s what the community is for 👍🏻 Thank you. I really appreciate that. I'm really grateful to everyone who has replied to this thread with words of encouragement and support. I agree, I am/have been in a real dark place the last few weeks. I really hope I can pull through and am lucky to have the support of some family and friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ScottishGuy21 Posted March 23, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted March 23, 2023 Having a hair transplant is a traumatic experience both physically and mentally. It’s often underestimated what a patient goes through for the first few months. Hang in there mate you’re almost over the worst bit now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted March 23, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, cheesy1986 said: Thank you. I realise 7.5-8cm is not super low but I do have a large head so there's a lot of scalp above the hairline. Unfortunately I think the clinic did the hairline at least 0.5-1cm below my remaining few native hairs, which seems like a really odd decision when I was as extensive baldness as I am. It feels and looks all wrong to me after years of seeing myself in the mirror. Thanks for your reply though, I really appreciate it. I'm worried this is just heading in one direction for me and I've got a beautiful young family and life. I am really struggling to deal with it, especially every time I see a mirror or my reflection. I'm getting help from the doctors to cope with this but the feelings are very strong Because you’re at such an early stage, everything looks odd and exaggerated. The lingering redness will exaggerate the hairline in a negative way, and the sparseness means you can see the head shape through the hair. You also won’t be able to see any of the nice irregularities that will break up and soften the shape. Basically, it’s a horrible stage of the process, but one none of us get to skip. I have pictures that look just like yours do right now and then pictures from similar profiles 8-9 months after where the improvement is seriously drastic. That doesn’t mean I’m 100% happy with my design/shape/height either, but I’m far less bothered now than a year ago. I’m happy to send some pics privately if you think it would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member cheesy1986 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Berba11 said: Because you’re at such an early stage, everything looks odd and exaggerated. The lingering redness will exaggerate the hairline in a negative way, and the sparseness means you can see the head shape through the hair. You also won’t be able to see any of the nice irregularities that will break up and soften the shape. Basically, it’s a horrible stage of the process, but one none of us get to skip. I have pictures that look just like yours do right now and then pictures from similar profiles 8-9 months after where the improvement is seriously drastic. That doesn’t mean I’m 100% happy with my design/shape/height either, but I’m far less bothered now than a year ago. I’m happy to send some pics privately if you think it would help. Thanks for the tips, I agree about the lingering redness exaggerating things. If you don't mind mate, I'd be keen to see the pics yeah. Anything at the moment to try and reassure me. My donor also looks very patchy after 6 weeks, I hope this is normal. Edited March 23, 2023 by cheesy1986 Change pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Bucky O Hair Posted March 30, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted March 30, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 11:58 AM, cheesy1986 said: Thank you. I really appreciate that. I'm really grateful to everyone who has replied to this thread with words of encouragement and support. I agree, I am/have been in a real dark place the last few weeks. I really hope I can pull through and am lucky to have the support of some family and friends Of course you'll pull through. You'll finally have a properly framed hairline with enough hair to style without having to resort to a combover. In the grand scheme of things, a few months of having weird hair is nothing and when you look back you'll realize how insignificant this period will be (once it has passed). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Forty Six & 2 Posted April 1, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted April 1, 2023 The height of the hairline is just right, not aggressive at all. If the growth rate is reasonably good, it will look much better than before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aaalan Posted April 2, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted April 2, 2023 (edited) Dude I had this buyers remorse too post my HT a little bit. In my case I thought i should have been more aggressive with my hairlinr (7cm vs 7.5cm i went with). it will all calm down 4-6 weeks from HT. Your works seems great and as many have said… no reason to worry and enjoy the journey!! Edited April 2, 2023 by aaalan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Rafael Manelli Posted April 2, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted April 2, 2023 If I were you, I'd probably consider the hairline you received to be a compromise settled for due to insufficient donor. I'd have ideally wanted something 1.5 centimetres lower and significantly closed in, more aggressive temple points and frontotemporal junction closure. In other words, what I'm saying is I'd be VERY surprised if your hairline looks unnaturally low, aggressive or draws attention. It seems like smart planning and careful use of grafts to me. I can't tell for sure without seeing the rest of your head, but you have a lot going for you. Don't be so worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mavigo Posted April 4, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2023 On 2/15/2023 at 6:54 PM, ostein said: I have had moments of regret too, especially during the first 2 weeks after the transplant. I got very depressed during this time, but it went away so hang in there. I have had two HT's. First was a FUT and the second was FUE. The thing I get most depressed about is my FUT scar. At least you don't have that. Overall, I am more happy than regretful with regards to getting the HT's. Same for me. I went to a local doctor for an FUT and that is my biggest regret. I than had a second FUE from a recommended doctor from this forum. I didn't know that the vast majority of HT doctors are not good. 1 FUE 2400 Grafts (2023) - Dr. Panine; Chicago Hair Transplant Clinic FUT 1400 Grafts (2019) - Dr. Steven Paul Holt; Holt Hair Restoration/Bella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Miller Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 20 hours ago, mavigo said: Same for me. I went to a local doctor for an FUT and that is my biggest regret. I than had a second FUE from a recommended doctor from this forum. I didn't know that the vast majority of HT doctors are not good. I've been lurking here for the past few weeks and I found your answer quite interesting... when you say the vast majority of HT doctors are not good that's quite concerning... would you be able to back up your statement with some numbers? I almost went in a surgery not too long ago in a big well known Turkish clinic and I left when I saw all the red flags waving at me... RF that I blindly ignored... I'm not totally ready to share this crazy story, but I'm still trying to make my mind around this thing... would you say that 50% - 80% of HT doctors are mediocre to bad and where would you say they are a not good? Europe? North America? Asia? or is it global, because that's a big industry. This looks more and more like a Russian roulette unless you have Tom Cruise's and Johnny Depp budget + connections he... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted April 5, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted April 5, 2023 30 minutes ago, Marcus Miller said: I've been lurking here for the past few weeks and I found your answer quite interesting... when you say the vast majority of HT doctors are not good that's quite concerning... would you be able to back up your statement with some numbers? I almost went in a surgery not too long ago in a big well known Turkish clinic and I left when I saw all the red flags waving at me... RF that I blindly ignored... I'm not totally ready to share this crazy story, but I'm still trying to make my mind around this thing... would you say that 50% - 80% of HT doctors are mediocre to bad and where would you say they are a not good? Europe? North America? Asia? or is it global, because that's a big industry. This looks more and more like a Russian roulette unless you have Tom Cruise's and Johnny Depp budget + connections he... It’s not Russian Roulette if you do your research and you don’t need special contacts or a bulging bank balance to get a good HT from a good doctor. But there are certainly more bad clinics than good worldwide. The vast majority in Turkey or the UK, for instance, are not great at all (and some are downright awful). PS, if you’ve had a bad experience at a clinic then you should certainly share - you might save someone who has a booking with them the heartache should they chance upon this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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