Regular Member Patro1995 Posted July 31, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 Hi, I am one and a half years after the transplant, the transplanted hair is thin and you can see the differences between the natural ones. there are empty spaces in between too. I only have the transplants in the bends, I'm afraid that the center of my head will fall out, because I didn't have a transplantation there. I know finasteride is the best, I already have a bottle of topical 00.25% with trichosol, but I'm afraid to start because I used to be depressed and still im neurotic. Is it true that I can get depressed after? or lowering emotions? or are they just people who get busy writing stuff like that? Could someone motivate me and give me some confidence? I'm also thinking of adding minoxidil to thicken this skinny hair, thanks for the advice and please help out as I need hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted July 31, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 You already posted this and had some good advice back in May: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Patro1995 Posted July 31, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Britalien said: You already posted this and had some good advice back in May: I wrote a new one, because in the old one nobody will answer for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted July 31, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 Same members dude, You already had some good answers/advice on that thread. Absolutely nobody here will know how you will respond, it differs for everyone. Try it and see for yourself, stop if you get any noticeable sides you’re not happy with. That’s literally all anyone can say. What’s more than likely is you might either spark another Fin debate, or get a whole bunch of different answers that may just not help you in deciding at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Patro1995 Posted July 31, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 31 minutes ago, Britalien said: Same members dude, You already had some good answers/advice on that thread. Absolutely nobody here will know how you will respond, it differs for everyone. Try it and see for yourself, stop if you get any noticeable sides you’re not happy with. That’s literally all anyone can say. What’s more than likely is you might either spark another Fin debate, or get a whole bunch of different answers that may just not help you in deciding at all. was lubricating a few days, I was kind of depressed after that. but I have no idea if it was because of it or I made it up out of fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted July 31, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Patro1995 said: was lubricating a few days, I was kind of depressed after that. but I have no idea if it was because of it or I made it up out of fear. So more than possible the “Nocebo” effect. As you have already said on many occasions you are neurotic and have suffered with depression it’s not surprising you mention this. It’s not something people are going to be able to answer on here, professional advice is best, not a armchair forum expert with no knowledge of you or you’re medical/mental health history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted July 31, 2022 Administrators Share Posted July 31, 2022 Most likely nocebo if you’re internalizing the fear of getting side effects. 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member GoliGoliGoli Posted July 31, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Patro1995 said: I wrote a new one, because in the old one nobody will answer for sure Look, I hate to be rude but you kind of need to show a little self-reliance here. Instead of coming here and asking people to either give you confidence to use it, or tell you not to use it is crazy. Drugs are weird things, and have different effects on different peoples bodies. It's your body, not your Dr's body and not anyone on this forums body. You need to think for yourself and research for yourself. As a starting point, I would recommend researching the functions that DHT has in your body as no one doubts that Fin functions by cratering your DHT levels. I am anti-fin but I don't deny that some people can use it without experiencing symptoms. Other people use it for 1 week and have symptoms for years. Do the research and then make a cost/benefit analysis based on your own profile and risk tolerance. Stop asking other people to make decisions for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Patro1995 Posted July 31, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, GoliGoliGoli said: Look, I hate to be rude but you kind of need to show a little self-reliance here. Instead of coming here and asking people to either give you confidence to use it, or tell you not to use it is crazy. Drugs are weird things, and have different effects on different peoples bodies. It's your body, not your Dr's body and not anyone on this forums body. You need to think for yourself and research for yourself. As a starting point, I would recommend researching the functions that DHT has in your body as no one doubts that Fin functions by cratering your DHT levels. I am anti-fin but I don't deny that some people can use it without experiencing symptoms. Other people use it for 1 week and have symptoms for years. Do the research and then make a cost/benefit analysis based on your own profile and risk tolerance. Stop asking other people to make decisions for you. did dht tests, estrogen too, these two were above the norm, only the testosterone was high but normal. I think everyone is different, and I don't think I could replace finasteride with anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member GoliGoliGoli Posted July 31, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 What your DHT, test, and estrogen levels are prior to starting Finasteride really is pretty useless information. I guess it helps you establish a baseline to compare against once you start using it (If you decide to), but it's pretty much guaranteed it's going to crater your DHT. So, your starting levels of these hormones really don't provide much useful information to you as far as deciding whether or not to get on Fin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Patro1995 Posted July 31, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, GoliGoliGoli said: What your DHT, test, and estrogen levels are prior to starting Finasteride really is pretty useless information. I guess it helps you establish a baseline to compare against once you start using it (If you decide to), but it's pretty much guaranteed it's going to crater your DHT. So, your starting levels of these hormones really don't provide much useful information to you as far as deciding whether or not to get on Fin Well, what should I examine to see how he will react and what do you recommend instead of the fin? saw palmetto has no such strength and tryxholologists said that dht is a problem for me, that's why it's balding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukh123 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, GoliGoliGoli said: What your DHT, test, and estrogen levels are prior to starting Finasteride really is pretty useless information. I guess it helps you establish a baseline to compare against once you start using it (If you decide to), but it's pretty much guaranteed it's going to crater your DHT. So, your starting levels of these hormones really don't provide much useful information to you as far as deciding whether or not to get on Fin Given that finasteride has a direct effect on all of them as a result of 5ar blocking, I think it is prudent, simple fact is no fin your hair loss is never going to stop and that is a fact. If you don't get side effects its great, if you do obviously then there's nothing you can do, and have to accept the progression of hair loss. Your basing this on just DHT reduction which everyone knows will happen, which is why I don't even bother testing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukh123 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Patro1995 said: Well, what should I examine to see how he will react and what do you recommend instead of the fin? saw palmetto has no such strength and tryxholologists said that dht is a problem for me, that's why it's balding If I'm honest this guy has been so anti- fin on every forum that pops up, posting studies galore to try scaremonger people. The only way you can know is to take the drug and see for yourself at the end of the day and see how it works out. Edited July 31, 2022 by sukh123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukh123 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Patro1995 said: did dht tests, estrogen too, these two were above the norm, only the testosterone was high but normal. I think everyone is different, and I don't think I could replace finasteride with anything Given your estrogen is above the normal range is not a good hormonal profile tbh as your testosterone is in the normal range. Excess estrogen compared to testosterone can cause depression, that a known symptom if you research it and even studies have shown this https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29107881/ Edited July 31, 2022 by sukh123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted July 31, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, Patro1995 said: Well, what should I examine to see how he will react and what do you recommend instead of the fin? saw palmetto has no such strength and tryxholologists said that dht is a problem for me, that's why it's balding I remember posting back in April that the only thing you can try and works for some (not all) people is Fin in either of its forms, or spend years chasing the loss. I don’t take Fin and am at 5 hts and looking for a 6th, hair loss is progressive, at what rate it just depends on the person… no magic shampoo or anything else will help stop the loss… you need to just consider the 2 options, to Fin or not to Fin, and understand right now nothing else is going to help stop the loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member GoliGoliGoli Posted July 31, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, sukh123 said: Given that finasteride has a direct effect on all of them as a result of 5ar blocking, I think it is prudent, simple fact is no fin your hair loss is never going to stop and that is a fact. If you don't get side effects its great, if you do obviously then there's nothing you can do, and have to accept the progression of hair loss. Your basing this on just DHT reduction which everyone knows will happen, which is why I don't even bother testing that. You follow me around like a groupie and send me random unsolicited DM's so I wont even bother responding to you because I think everyone can tell your intelligence level without me having to point it out. But I will say as I pointed out in another thread, their is a difference between symptoms and side effects. Just because you do not have symptoms does not mean you are not experiencing side effects that are detrimental to your long term well being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukh123 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, GoliGoliGoli said: You follow me around like a groupie and send me random unsolicited DM's so I wont even bother responding to you because I think everyone can tell your intelligence level without me having to point it out. But I will say as I pointed out in another thread, their is a difference between symptoms and side effects. Just because you do not have symptoms does not mean you are not experiencing side effects that are detrimental to your long term well being. I was referring to your point of blood work , saying there’s no point which are you wrong on as fin has a direct impact on all those hormones. Your symptom/side effect theory doesn’t really resonate as there essentially the same thing . What side effects are you taking about that don’t have symptoms lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HappyMan2021 Posted July 31, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 1.5 years is more than enough time to judge the final results of a HT. If you aren't satisfied you will likely need a touch up. I am sorry to say but Finasteride will likely not move the needle on your HT growth. If anything it will just prevent further hair loss. Some people do indeed get Fin sides, but ~95% or more do not. I'm almost 99% sure any mental side effects you get will be placebo. That being said, if you are still worried, you should speak with a psychiatrist or some other mental health MD and ask their professional opinion. For the record I see no issue with you posting a similar question 2.5 months apart.....I hope some of the feedback here doesn't dissuade you from posting in the future 👊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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