Senior Member dingdong12 Posted February 12, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted February 12, 2012 what are your views on the use of whey protein and hair loss. i am a keen gym goer and protein shakes are a big part of that. my surgeon says that the protein is not good for suffers of mpb and that it can speed up hairloss he also says this of creatine he pointed me towards a hair shake by shapiro not sure if i buy into the use of protein as damaging but i can see some logic in science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Montreal Posted February 12, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted February 12, 2012 hair loss is genetic period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutch Posted February 12, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted February 12, 2012 Nothing to do with hairloss, there is no scientific proof. Its been discussed on here and on other forums in the past. Dr. Rassman was asked about this in the past and he answered this on baldingblog. Same with roids, no correlation. http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2329 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Montreal Posted February 12, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted February 12, 2012 your hair needs protein anyway... but I realy think steroids can cause baldness and I think it's proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member dingdong12 Posted February 12, 2012 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 12, 2012 hi dutch are you saying that roids dont contribute or cause hair loss??? i thought this was fairly standard school of thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NEWHAIRPLEASE Posted February 12, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted February 12, 2012 hi dutch are you saying that roids dont contribute or cause hair loss??? i thought this was fairly standard school of thought If you are genetically prone to hair loss, then yes, steroids can speed the process up...if your are not you can take all the steroids you want and never lose a hair, however, I sure wouldn't recommend taking steroids one way or the other... Newhairplease!! Dr Rahal in January 19, 2012:) 4808 FUT grafts- 941 singles, 2809 doubles, 1031 triples, 27 quads My Hairloss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NEWHAIRPLEASE Posted February 12, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted February 12, 2012 Oh..BTW, I take whey protein shakes as well.. Newhairplease!! Dr Rahal in January 19, 2012:) 4808 FUT grafts- 941 singles, 2809 doubles, 1031 triples, 27 quads My Hairloss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Montreal Posted February 12, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted February 12, 2012 there is about 4-5 young guys at my gym who are on steroids,they have been on it since like 3 years and these guys are 24 years old and they still have there hair but I will try and see if there is'nt signs of hairloss coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutch Posted February 12, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted February 12, 2012 If you are genetically prone to hair loss, then yes, steroids can speed the process up...if your are not you can take all the steroids you want and never lose a hair, however, I sure wouldn't recommend taking steroids one way or the other... Hello, I agree. If you're prone, maybe you'd lose hair because of roids. They're by no means good for the body regardless of hairloss or not. Watched a documentary about roids recently called bigger faster stronger discussing roids & whether they're harmful or not, interesting programme, but didn't discuss hairloss on there unfortunately. But I can't see how protein would cause hairloss. http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2329 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member dingdong12 Posted February 12, 2012 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 12, 2012 im going to keep taking my protein couldnt ive without it but i may change to whey concentrate as opposed to isolate the problem is when these docs make these claims it is planted in your mind and no matter what evidence there is to the contrary there is always that doubt that sways you to to maybe think otherwse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JayWalker Posted February 12, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted February 12, 2012 How on earth can whey protein increase hairloss? I'd love to see some medical studies that backup this claim. http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/journal.asp?CopyID=10024&WebID=2832 October 2011 - 1647 FUT - Dr Dorin January 2014 - 1580 FUT - Dr Dorin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member dingdong12 Posted February 12, 2012 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 12, 2012 i believe its larry shapiro who sells the hair shake and makes tha claim re whey isolate, there may be others who claim this also on shapiros website there is info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutch Posted February 12, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted February 12, 2012 Forget the hair shakes, what a joke that whole thing is, it's been mocked on here before http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2329 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member dingdong12 Posted February 12, 2012 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 12, 2012 i was thinking that myself just wanted to check incase otheres thought different , cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rampage18567 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 It is new knowledge for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member scar5 Posted April 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 16, 2012 Post-workout testosterone boosts are actually blunted by protein intake, as weird as it sounds according to the recent studies. Larry Shapiro's study is based on what he calls, no growth hormone protein, with lower amino counts. He claims that the doldrums can be shortened considerably with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Falcon45 Posted April 16, 2012 Regular Member Share Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) Recently joined and have not posted much but just wanted to chime in on what I read about the Whey Protein. During my reasearch I came across Larry Shapiro's website and his claims to shorten the dormance time after a transplant. Naturally I was curious so I read more and searched several other sources of information on Whey Protein Concentrate and Isolate. The conclusions I came up with is that there is no hard evidence that Whey Protein Concentrate shortens the dormancy time after a HT. The concentration that Larry Shapiro sells is 35% and you can't find that at any retail store that sells the Whey Protein powder. This is designed so you and I can not easily challenge his study. Besides this was a really big red flag for me because he is the only physician endorsing this product. I believe if it worked other physicians as well as pharmaceutical companies would be all over it. I also read that Whey Protien isolate aids in raising testosterone levels and we all know that is not a good thing. If your hair is not sensitive to DHT then it is not going to fall out using the Whey Protein Isolate or the roids since they also aid in raising testerone levels. If your hair is sensitive to DHT then your hair ig going to fall out weather you use this stuff or not but there is not reason to hasten the process. Just my two cents... Edited April 16, 2012 by Falcon45 sp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member michaeljames Posted April 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) what are your views on the use of whey protein and hair loss. i am a keen gym goer and protein shakes are a big part of that. my surgeon says that the protein is not good for suffers of mpb and that it can speed up hairloss he also says this of creatine he pointed me towards a hair shake by shapiro not sure if i buy into the use of protein as damaging but i can see some logic in science MPB is proven without question a genetic hereditary condition. Good nutrition supports the health of the body in its entirety. There is not direct causal link proven by empirical scientific research of protein shakes causing or contributing to hair loss. Hope this is helpful. Edited April 16, 2012 by michaeljames typo Michael James is a Patient Advocate for Dr. Parsa Mohebi, who is recommended on the Hair Transplant Network; and not a physician. Visit Us On: Facebook | YouTube | Twitter | LinkedIn Comments give here are only for intellectual consideration and in no manner to be construed or accepted as medical advice. It is important to seek the advice of a physician in all medical circumstances including hair restoration, dietary or others directly or indirectly related to the subjects in this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member michaeljames Posted April 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 16, 2012 your hair needs protein anyway... but I realy think steroids can cause baldness and I think it's proven. Many steroid users find MPB accelerated. It appears that the forced elevation of testosterone also elevates DHT and thus the common MPB among steroid users. Another one of the risk / reward consideration one should take into account in the vary dangerous use of unsubscribed anabolic steroids. Michael James is a Patient Advocate for Dr. Parsa Mohebi, who is recommended on the Hair Transplant Network; and not a physician. Visit Us On: Facebook | YouTube | Twitter | LinkedIn Comments give here are only for intellectual consideration and in no manner to be construed or accepted as medical advice. It is important to seek the advice of a physician in all medical circumstances including hair restoration, dietary or others directly or indirectly related to the subjects in this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member michaeljames Posted April 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 16, 2012 your hair needs protein anyway... but I realy think steroids can cause baldness and I think it's proven. Many steroid users find MPB accelerated. It appears that the forced elevation of testosterone also elevates DHT and thus the common MPB among steroid users. Another one of the risk / reward consideration one should take into account in the vary dangerous use of medically unsubscribed anabolic steroids. Testicular atrophy and other serious conditions can also occur. Michael James is a Patient Advocate for Dr. Parsa Mohebi, who is recommended on the Hair Transplant Network; and not a physician. Visit Us On: Facebook | YouTube | Twitter | LinkedIn Comments give here are only for intellectual consideration and in no manner to be construed or accepted as medical advice. It is important to seek the advice of a physician in all medical circumstances including hair restoration, dietary or others directly or indirectly related to the subjects in this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member snowman Posted April 16, 2012 Regular Member Share Posted April 16, 2012 Steroids CAN and does (depending on what you take) protein no it does not. There are Steroids that are pretty much pure DHT based! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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