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Hey Spex,

 

Not to step in and argue the point here or anything, but I wouldn't really go as far to state that by having a HT (via FUE I am assuming) and then shaving it down to sport a buzz look as totally pointless.

I have seen many great results documented with patients who wear their hair in this fashion. Take Stephen from BHR for example, his buzz cut look seems to pay off in my opinion and comes across photographically speaking (having not met the man) as aesthetically pleasing.

Of course there are the results which are also less pleasing, I suppose to summarise if you are a risk taker and wish to wear your hair in the mentioned manner well...roll the dice.

I completely understand your outlined statements surrounding FUE extraction limits etc and fully agree. It certainly is not a bottomless pit of usable grafts.

Like I said mate, no arguments intended I am merely here to make some friends and say hi…Hi! You seemed slightly livid during the post…how is your day going?

Cheers,

"The road to success is always under construction"

 

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I am also here to assist fellow Australian/NZ Hair Loss sufferers both on and off the forum.

 

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Hair Transplant Surgery:

June 3rd 2011

2800 Grafts to frontal 1/3

By Dr Rahal in Ottawa, Canada

 

 

Current Hair Loss Arsenal:

Dutas .5mg every day 1.5 years and Proscar 5mg (Cut into 1/4): x1 Daily 10 years

 

Hair-A-Gain Generic Minox: x2 Daily 13 years

(Applied wet in mornings)

 

Other Random products put to use during my hair loss battle (not in use):

Spiro Cream 5mg

Minox 15%

Dr Proctor's Nano Shampoo

Various Herbal supplements

Toppik/ Nanogen

Saw Palmetto

Provillus - LOL

Nanogen Shampoo

Laser Treatments (Epic Fail)

 

10 long years of HT and general HL research.:cool:

 

*I am not a medical professional, I only offer my own advice from personal experiences and years of detailed research*

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Music, hi there mate! No worries, Spex knows u r just giving your opinion. However, i have to agree with Spex. Seriously, if u want to shave it all off , why would anyone want to go thru the trauma, not to mention the possibility of scarring? Of cos its individual's preference but it just sound mental to u. I for one won't do that!

 

Btw, i am also using the nanogen thickening conditioner, but i dun find it really different from others. Like i mentioned in my other thread, i am really concerned abt the new nanofibres!

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Thank you for your honest reply mate,

Duly noted that you are far more informative and educated than me regarding HT procedures, I am very grateful to be apart of discussions such as this to only further my knowledge.

I realise Stephens case may have fell into that category of uniqueness as you have suggested.

Would you not agree that clients only requiring limited to minimal FUE work in certain areas throughout the scalp could potentially pull off the desired shaved look? In most FUE cases performed by competent physicians?

Skimming through post operative photographs especially once a patient has hit day 7+ many if not most (in good hands) show great donor healing. The hair is a shaved style during this time frame also…would this not indicate that the patient could prospectively wear their hair in such a way?

Cheers,

PS: I found your exiting comments rather funny and dare I admit I Lol’d for a moment. I like that you are a consultant/advisor with an honest approach to the industry.

"The road to success is always under construction"

 

:cool: I represent Dr Rahal and the associated clinic as a paid patient advisor.

 

I am also here to assist fellow Australian/NZ Hair Loss sufferers both on and off the forum.

 

Contact: mbhounslow@gmail.com - Mike.

Hair Transplant Surgery:

June 3rd 2011

2800 Grafts to frontal 1/3

By Dr Rahal in Ottawa, Canada

 

 

Current Hair Loss Arsenal:

Dutas .5mg every day 1.5 years and Proscar 5mg (Cut into 1/4): x1 Daily 10 years

 

Hair-A-Gain Generic Minox: x2 Daily 13 years

(Applied wet in mornings)

 

Other Random products put to use during my hair loss battle (not in use):

Spiro Cream 5mg

Minox 15%

Dr Proctor's Nano Shampoo

Various Herbal supplements

Toppik/ Nanogen

Saw Palmetto

Provillus - LOL

Nanogen Shampoo

Laser Treatments (Epic Fail)

 

10 long years of HT and general HL research.:cool:

 

*I am not a medical professional, I only offer my own advice from personal experiences and years of detailed research*

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I agree with spex as an FUE patient myself. Most people are left with white dots after fue once healing has taken place.Its the same as a scar on any other part of your body,the colour is different to your normal skin. I have stitches on my arm and they are white in colour and obvious so it is exactly the same in my donor area - white dots (2100) of them ! but because I have hair there they cant be seen by anyone,even my barber hasnt noticed and I have my hair cut between a 3/4 grade and used to get a 2. So maybe look at other scars you have to see what you will get from FUE,just my theory.You could always get scalp pigmentation into fue dots to give them colour as the technology is becoming more advanced and their are a few companies with good results.

HT 2006/7

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So maybe look at other scars you have to see what you will get from FUE,just my theory.You could always get scalp pigmentation into fue dots to give them colour as the technology is becoming more advanced and their are a few companies with good results.

 

Cool theory on the scarring. Can you explain the scalp pigmentation more?

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I looked at hishair site and they show examples of scar cover ups,only saw one FUE job .providing you have plenty of surrounding hair I think it would work . Dont like some of the hairlines they show,a bit over the top.

HT 2006/7

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T.C,

Thanks for the interesting information. This is the type of information many people would like to hear (including myself) rather than getting bashed from a simple question. Although I do respect Spex opinion. My apologies if I have offended someone with the wrong choice of words. Having said that, I didn't meant to say "shave my head" (skin type) but rather than cut it short (like a buzz cut) as MusoInOz pointed out. Doesn't know ultra refined hair transplantation is the same as FUE. I am interested getting a consultation with ultra refined hair transplantation specialist Dr. Thomas Nakatsui.

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I hate these arguments as much as we all do. And yet once again, we gotta say it, just to try to keep that greedy big ball rolling its way into the corner that goes you know where

 

 

#1 FUE produces more scaring than strip , just not as localised or as visible.

 

#2 a) if you intend to have a HT.... to then bic shave it all off ...is absolutely pointless

 

b) Hair transplants are for growing hair , not shaving it all off.

 

#3 Every patient is different and no two patients are the same - understand this and your on your way to understanding the variable HT surgery present us all.

 

#4 Research, Research, Research.

 

S

 

Spex raises the usual points but I want to show another take on things.

 

I put numbers up there.

 

#1 - 'Just' less visible - Well, that is the whole point. It is the one and only thing about FUE and it is JUST brilliant if it is only true. That is the question. But if it is true it is the shit we want.

I personally believe it is true. My FUE scares are not invisible, but they are unnoticable. My strip scars are very noticeable. Image cattle feeding in a paddock, scattered. Now line them up in a smiley line.

 

#2 - a and b are really the same thing. It is not pointless!!!! There IS a point to this logic. Say you grow your hair out with an HT while you still have enough native hair, and the drugs are still working. It's all good. Then in mid-30s the drugs wear off, you start losing more, you grey. Now the compass points towards are very low buzz. With FUE you can do it. No guarantees? Of course, but with strip?

 

Depending on your skin and hair tone, a shadow of hair can really help frame the face if shaven. I do agree, however you are risking it planning to shave from the onset, but the risk is more to do with the recipient to native area miss-match than the dreaded white dots that characterized FUE up to the early 2000s.

 

#3 -Same as the last part of point #2

 

#4 - Difficult. No FUE-only clinics have reps here to argue their case. Research is extremely difficult. In all my years I have only my own experiences and intuitions that I try to reconcile with the fleeting chats, hearsay etc. and I think we are all in the same boat.

 

I think it is wrong to throw out the cards that say,

 

1) "FUE is not scarless, therefore, strip and FUE are the same" , so I better get strip

2) FUE scarring is unpredicatable, therefore dodgy, so I better get strip?

3) FUE suits small procedures, I want lots, so I better get strip

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