Senior Member scooping around Posted June 24, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 24, 2007 These are my post op pictures. Sorry that I couldn't take much pictures to show the first few days, but they'd be pretty close to what they look like right now...I've had 2000 grafts placed in the frontal 1/3 area, lowering my receded hairline by about 1 cm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member scooping around Posted June 24, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 24, 2007 These are my post op pictures. Sorry that I couldn't take much pictures to show the first few days, but they'd be pretty close to what they look like right now...I've had 2000 grafts placed in the frontal 1/3 area, lowering my receded hairline by about 1 cm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gorpy Posted June 24, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 24, 2007 Hi Scooping, That looks good. Very clean work. Looks like all the scabs in the recipient area are gone. Expect those grafts to jump ship shortly. There must be a lot of grafts back mixed in with the hair also. It's hard to see because of your existing hair. Uh Oh! You look like a high contrast kind of guy. Just kidding with you scooping. I don't know if you've been following our Soft vs. Hard hairline debate. It'll be interesting to see how yours turns out. ____________ 2700 Total Grafts w/ Keene 9/28/05 663 one's = 663 1116 two's = 2232 721 three's = 2163 200 four's = 800 Hair Count = 5858 1000 Total Grafts w/Keene 2/08/07 Mostly combined FU's for 2600+ hairs My Photo Album See me at Dr. Keene's Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 scooping, Post op results look great. Who was your doctor? Are you on any medication to help keep your existing hair? Sorry if you already answered this question...I can't remember from thread to thread sometimes. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Scooping, If I remember correctly you went to Dr, Keene.? As Bill & Gorpy said the work looks clean & with 2000 grafts should yield some nice results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member scooping around Posted June 25, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 25, 2007 Thanks for the comments guys...glad I finally got those pics up, took me over 10 days to do so. Gorpy...Yes I'm not only a high contrast type of guy, my hair is also straight as a ruler, with nearly no curls whatsoever, so any thinning will be really apparent. On top of the flash that my camera gave, the pictures does appear a lot worst than to the naked eye under normal light conditions. No, I haven't been following the soft vs. hard hairline debate, but I'm guessing that Dr. Keene took the "soft" approach being that it's not completly flat across with some irregularities or jagged hair line. She spent about a good 15 minutes drawing up my hairline with the little ruler that she had. She told me that even though a perfectly symmetric hairline does look good, but not as natural looking. Yes, there were quite a bit of grafts underneath the existing hair and about 200 towards the mid of the frontal 1/3 area. Bill... Dr. Keene was my doctor and I have been on Propecia for over an year prior to the surgery and will be continuing the same dosage for a long time. As the picture shows, the thinning is starting to creep back towards the crown area, which I did not notice until recently, so hopefully Propecia will do its magic more back there. folica... good memory...As of right now I'm very optimistic about the results that Dr. Keene did. If all the grafted hair grows, and I do see much existing hair shock-loss...this transplant should be good to tie me over for the next 5-10 years hopefully. I'm 27 right now, a bit young for the surgery, but there was no one else in both sides of my family that had MPB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted June 30, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 30, 2007 Scooping Clean the donor area well! I didn't in my second ( well i did but wasnt agressive enough) .. It can result in additional scarring.. Learn from my mistake as I had no clue .. Good thing they removed it with my third HT JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member the B spot Posted June 30, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 30, 2007 Looks very nice--- I think your going to look very nice in 8-9 months buddy!!!!!!!! Take Care, J Go Cubs! 6721 transplanted grafts 13,906 hairs Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NervousNelly Posted July 1, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted July 1, 2007 The work looks awesome. Great refined work that should do you well in about 8-12 months. Looking forward to following your progress. NN NN Dr.Cole,1989. ??graftcount Dr. Ron Shapiro. Aug., 2007 Total graft count 2862 Total hairs 5495 1hairs--916 2hairs--1349 3hairs--507 4hairs--90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summer2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Scooping, your after pictures are impressive. nice and clean. For 2000 grafts, how long is your procedure? I plan to have ht with dr. Keene sometime in August, any last words of advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member its752 Posted July 6, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted July 6, 2007 scooping around, Thanks for putting up your pics for all to see. Would you definitely put more up in a few months? It helps us all. Also, I find it's less obvious that my hair is thinner if I wear it shorter on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member scooping around Posted July 7, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 7, 2007 summer2007 The procedure started at 8:30 in the morning and I walked out of her office at about 5:30 to 6PM, but really only felt like I was there for couple of hours, because I was knocked out by the medication the whole time. its752 Yes, I will be updating the photo album at least once a month. During my research during the surgery, I really appreciated the other members that updated the post op progress to help us newer ones understand the process better, and I will do the same to help others as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summer2007 Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Thanks for your response Scooping, I had a phone consultation with Dr. Keene lastFriday, I was told that 30 to 40 single FU per sq cm can be implantd in the hairline and 20 to 25 multiple hairs FU per sq cm after the hairline toward the crown and so on. Did she perform this same method on your procedure? I thought dense pack procedure would need more FU per sq cm than I was told. I have the same hair loss pattern, texture and color so your experience with Dr. Keene will be much helpful for me. Any help will be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member the B spot Posted July 8, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted July 8, 2007 Summer, those are not "dense pack" numbers by any stretch of the imagination. However, if you currently have 15-25 follicular units per cm of existing hair, then you will achieve a dense result 45-65 fu's cm/2. If you have no hair, then 40 single fu's will probably not satisfy you. Your going to need a single hair density of about 45-60 fu's in the hairline, transitioning into a 40-50 fu 1,2 and 3 hair graft zone directly behind the hairline. Your donor and level of baldness will approximate what you can actually do, but if your trying to achieve a "more dense" look, you will not with that strategy. My personal opinion on dense pack is 55+ follicular units per sq cm. Take Care, J Go Cubs! 6721 transplanted grafts 13,906 hairs Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gorpy Posted July 9, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted July 9, 2007 If you have the same hair loss pattern, color and texture as this gentleman then you could expect to get a similar transplant. With existing hair in the recipient area, one has to be very careful with permanent shock loss, so going very dense can be dangerous. ____________ 2700 Total Grafts w/ Keene 9/28/05 663 one's = 663 1116 two's = 2232 721 three's = 2163 200 four's = 800 Hair Count = 5858 1000 Total Grafts w/Keene 2/08/07 Mostly combined FU's for 2600+ hairs My Photo Album See me at Dr. Keene's Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summer2007 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Thanks for your inputs B spot and Gorpy! Thats exactly what i thought, dense pack procedure required at least 45+ FU per sq cm. My goal is to dense pack along the balding hairline area and maybe 20 to 25 multiple fu cm2 around the thining area. Gorpy, you had both procedures with Dr. Keene, how many FU per cm2 did she implant on your first and second procedure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gorpy Posted July 10, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted July 10, 2007 I received approx. 30 per cm2 the first time. The second time is more difficult to say since the 1000 grafts were placed in specific areas that I wanted to thicken up. I estimate that I have around 40 to 45 grafts per cm2 over then entire front half of my head now (90 cm2). Of course, right at the hairline it is somewhat less, since it is a feathered hairline. If you look at my latest gallery pictures you'll see that in some very harsh sunlight, I'm getting some good coverage from that (and only at 5 months). Much of it depends on your characteristics and how many hairs per graft you have in the back part. I think I can safely say that nowhere in the recipient area am I over 50 grafts/cm2. Scooping appears to have had around 40-45 grafts/cm2 in the hairline. I think he'll get a good result from that. ____________ 2700 Total Grafts w/ Keene 9/28/05 663 one's = 663 1116 two's = 2232 721 three's = 2163 200 four's = 800 Hair Count = 5858 1000 Total Grafts w/Keene 2/08/07 Mostly combined FU's for 2600+ hairs My Photo Album See me at Dr. Keene's Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summer2007 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Again, thanks Gorpy for pointing that out. Thats what I was hoping to achieve in the hairline appro. 45 grafts/cm2, but during the phone conversation with Dr. keene she said she can implant 30 to 40 grafts in the hairline and 20to 25 behind it. I jsut sent an email request for a dense pack procedure that would have at least 45 grafts/cm2, I hope she agrees with it. Just peeped at your recent photos and your hair looks amazing you must be pleased every time you look in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member actionradar Posted July 20, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted July 20, 2007 hey very nice pics man!!! yep i went into surgery right after you next day looking very nice, so do you still ahve scabs man? this time i had more scabs than last time for sure but they all fell down on week 3, well congrats and looking very good pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member scooping around Posted July 22, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 22, 2007 yea, I still got some scabs left, and started washing and shampooing a bit more aggressively. funny how you sat in that same chair the day after me. I'm starting to get a bit of pimple looking things along the hairline and using hot towels to help them go away at 1 month and 1 week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member scooping around Posted October 5, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 5, 2007 Just added some new pics for my progress at slightly under 4 months post op. Geeze, this 4 months flew by, now that I've thought about it. My camera is still crap that I can't show the finer hair along the hair line, but they're very visible in person. I'm starting to get a good idea of how it'd turn out. Very glad that I went along with the HT so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 scooping, It looks like the growth is starting! You have come out of the doldrums . Things have healed nicely and now comes the fun part. How is your donor area looking? Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 How was the shock loss?? it looks like she had to graft around much existing hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member scooping around Posted October 5, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 5, 2007 the scar is still visible back there, if I lift the hair up. With my head buzzed with a #6 all around, it hides underneath quite nicely. I think it'll be completly faded away at around 6 months mark. Shockloss, what shockloss? I know Dr. Keene pretty much grafted hair all over my existing hair, but I'm glad that there's no shockloss that I can see at all. Even in the spot behind the hairline where there's thinning hair all over the place, I didn't notice any shockloss at all. Now that the hair is sprouting, I can say that the mid 1/3 area is looking even thicker and more even than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Furless Posted October 14, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted October 14, 2007 Things must be getting exciting about this time? Looks like they're sprouting out nicely now. Out of curiosity, do you have a graft breakdown / haircount? (sorry if you've already mentioned this) ____________________ 2-day session with Dr. Keene. 1's: 297; 2's: 1186; 3's: 1382; 4's: 999 Total grafts : 3864 Averaging 2.85 hairs/graft. Total hairs: ~11000. ____________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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