Regular Member Balding Indian! Posted November 7, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted November 7, 2007 Hello All, I go to a number of different newsagents/convienance types of shops depending on what I need or where I am in my local area. Today, I went to one I hadn't been too in a fair while and I am on sort of friendly terms with the owner. The thing is, in the past, I have always seen him purely bald on top - hair on the sides and back but totally smooth bald on top. Today, however I was immediately struck on seeing him as he clearly had hair on his bald patch. It was thin and about 3-4cm long. It was not concentrated on any one area, but generally all over the bald patch but was quite sparse. Well, I have been reading up on these forums and doing a lot of research lately for my own hair and immediately said to him had he had a transplant or been taking meds to which he clearly said no many times. I pushed him that he must have as there was no other way hair could grow. He is quite rich so my suspicions on the transplant/meds was I thought valid. Upon asking how he then got the new hair growth, he told me he had been having regular once a week Indian Head Massage and been oiling his scalp with regular run of the mill coconut hair oil. Now, Indian Head Massage is all the rage these days, no one seems to have any issue with it as it helps lots of things like tension, migraines, stress, circulation, etc. but hair growth? That's a new one me! I have read that coconut oil is supposed to be very healthy for maintaining strong and supple hair and some have even reported hair growth with it but in the main, it is seen as a nourishing & fortifying treatment. The only thing is, this guy told me that the person who gives him the IHM would do the regular IHM and in addition slap his scalp quite hard in a certain manner and pattern fairly rapidly for quite some time! (gives a new meaning to the term slap-head I guess!). The only thing I can assume is the this IHM was very good at creating better blood circulation around the scalp which is generally accepted to be very important for hair. In Ayurveda, it is also generally accepted that in order to maintain good hair and help growth, the scalp has to be kept cool which I am assuming the coconut oil does. I would say that the hair growth covered about 80% of his scalp but it was very sparse and I would rate it in terms of amount of hair to be 5% to 10% of his scalp. He said he oils every night and has the IHM once a week and had been doing it for 4 months. Make of this what you will. Those of you considering a HT in a few months or a year down the line, may want to try it - nothing to lose I guess and if you do grow some hair, then you'll have less grafts to do and may be able save a fair bit of money and those of you on meds, it might help the hair growth process and save you money on less meds -in which case, you'll all owe me a pint! Regards, Balding Indian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Balding Indian! Posted November 7, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 7, 2007 Hello All, I go to a number of different newsagents/convienance types of shops depending on what I need or where I am in my local area. Today, I went to one I hadn't been too in a fair while and I am on sort of friendly terms with the owner. The thing is, in the past, I have always seen him purely bald on top - hair on the sides and back but totally smooth bald on top. Today, however I was immediately struck on seeing him as he clearly had hair on his bald patch. It was thin and about 3-4cm long. It was not concentrated on any one area, but generally all over the bald patch but was quite sparse. Well, I have been reading up on these forums and doing a lot of research lately for my own hair and immediately said to him had he had a transplant or been taking meds to which he clearly said no many times. I pushed him that he must have as there was no other way hair could grow. He is quite rich so my suspicions on the transplant/meds was I thought valid. Upon asking how he then got the new hair growth, he told me he had been having regular once a week Indian Head Massage and been oiling his scalp with regular run of the mill coconut hair oil. Now, Indian Head Massage is all the rage these days, no one seems to have any issue with it as it helps lots of things like tension, migraines, stress, circulation, etc. but hair growth? That's a new one me! I have read that coconut oil is supposed to be very healthy for maintaining strong and supple hair and some have even reported hair growth with it but in the main, it is seen as a nourishing & fortifying treatment. The only thing is, this guy told me that the person who gives him the IHM would do the regular IHM and in addition slap his scalp quite hard in a certain manner and pattern fairly rapidly for quite some time! (gives a new meaning to the term slap-head I guess!). The only thing I can assume is the this IHM was very good at creating better blood circulation around the scalp which is generally accepted to be very important for hair. In Ayurveda, it is also generally accepted that in order to maintain good hair and help growth, the scalp has to be kept cool which I am assuming the coconut oil does. I would say that the hair growth covered about 80% of his scalp but it was very sparse and I would rate it in terms of amount of hair to be 5% to 10% of his scalp. He said he oils every night and has the IHM once a week and had been doing it for 4 months. Make of this what you will. Those of you considering a HT in a few months or a year down the line, may want to try it - nothing to lose I guess and if you do grow some hair, then you'll have less grafts to do and may be able save a fair bit of money and those of you on meds, it might help the hair growth process and save you money on less meds -in which case, you'll all owe me a pint! Regards, Balding Indian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member giants Posted November 8, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 8, 2007 No ones gonna stop you from trying it, and Im not gonna say this is completly out of the question but im sceptical. If I had a guess id say he had a transplant and was embarresed by the fact that you reconized it. Just a theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted November 8, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 8, 2007 wouldn't even start to believe in this treatment JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member balody Posted November 8, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 8, 2007 my only thought on this is the head slapping bit.i have thought about this before and even practiced it.i remember watching something where a guy hung upside down for a period every day and he reckoned the blood reaching his follicles regrew his hair.so i thought if all they need is blood why not a good slapping every night after the rogain?i tried this and i definatly grew quite alot of hair back on my crown which was previously baron. this was also months before i started fin. it may have just been the minox working its magic,but it cant hurt to try for a couple of months(actually it can sting a bit,this was my signal to stop) i stpped doing this when i had my ht as it was tender for couple of months after. 2381 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2201 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2000+ fut Dr Bessam Farjo My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Bessam Farjo challenge the unchallenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Balding Indian! Posted November 8, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 8, 2007 Hi all again, Please note, I am not saying this is a treatment or anything - all I am doing was just reporting what I saw! Whether it has any credit - I do not know and cannot say. May it helps on some people and not on others. I can however honestly state that in the bald patch the hair was sparse and in the smooth patches there was no evidence at all of any surgical treatment - it was bald and smooth. Maybe it worked for him or maybe he was taking meds. I do not know. Balding Indian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Time to do something Posted November 8, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 8, 2007 It is probably a hair transplant. I don't know about you but I don't want to start my day off every morning with a head slap. NW5 Dr. Epstein July 4, 2007 2520 grafts 471 one hair grafts 1540 two hair grafts 505 three hair grafts 5070 Total hair count Dr. Epstein August 4, 2008 2384 grafts 870 one hair grafts 1150 two hair grafts 364 three and four hair grafts 4262 Total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro November 18, 2009 1896 grafts 760 one hair grafts 852 two hair grafts 288 three hair grafts 46 four hair grafts 3362 total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro July 1, 2011 1191 grafts 447 one hair grafts 580 two hair grafts 150 three hair grafts 14 four hair grafts 2113 total hair count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nobuzz4me Posted November 8, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 8, 2007 I understand wear you are coming from BI, I agree with you that the increase in blood flow to the scalp via massage can benefit but I too am skeptical on the coconut oil, seems to me any oil can clog pores, not good for the skin in general. Since Rogaine works by increasing blood flow to the scalp the massage could have the best effect. Fellow poster, Nervous Nelly, hangs upside down on his inversion table, good for the spine and probably helps the blood flow to the scalp. I believe stimulating the area is good, but not gonna buy any coconut oil, will save it for the microwave popcorn. NoBuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nobuzz4me Posted November 8, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 8, 2007 Also, The story is a good cover for having had a HT! NoBuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Balding Indian, Believe it or not, I have read something like this before - but it has nothing to do with coconut hair oil but with the massaging itself. Whether or not it works is beyond me, but the problem I see with this is the time it takes for therapy. From what I remember reading (8 years ago I might add), is that hour+ long scalp massages are needed twice a day in order to acheive any level of success. So if you have a lot of time on your hands and are very rich to afford a massage therapist for 2 hours a day, go for it . Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Balding Indian! Posted November 8, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 8, 2007 Hi all, I did say that coconut oil was in the main seen as a nourishing and fortifying treatment & not in any way as a hair growth solution and even expressed my surprise that this guy grew some hair with it (together with the IHM.I trust no one thought I was implying otherwise! Balding Indian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member maxzor Posted November 9, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted November 9, 2007 Hey all, I don't know whether it will be useful to fight hairloss by massaging your scalp to increase circulation of blood. It could have ofcourse some benefits. There is a website that describes an exercise for the scalp to halt hairloss. This exercise makes also use of the principle of increasing blood circulation to the scalp by means of muscle contraction in the scalp. De url of this website is (link removed) The exercise is described in words but to fully understand the exercise he recommends to purchase his demonstration CD. Do any of you guys think that such an exercise could be helpful in fighting hairloss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Maxzor, Rather than posting a link to a promotional website, feel free to copy and paste the text you are referring to into this thread. Thanks, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted November 9, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 9, 2007 I would much rather focus on real treatments than things that are highly doubtful at best. It can just bring false hope to those looking for legit treatments. JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member spineguy1 Posted November 9, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted November 9, 2007 I know that when I had my first couple of procedures people would recognize my strip scar because I kept my hair short. Whenever someone would ask me about it, I made up all kinds of stories just out of embarrassment. This could be the case, or maybe he's just found something that works for him. It's hard to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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