Bob C

We've gone round and round on this topic before. Some people think it's pointless. I think it's fun, and possibly even educational. I don't know if Trump has had a transplant, but he has a TERRIBLE hair style! He should know better. I suppose it's his trademark. I had a consultation at Bosley once. There was a photo of Kenny Rogers with Lee Bosley displayed there. When you see big photos of Kenny (like on the cover of People magazine, etc), his hair looks natural enough. But it isn't very full. I wonder if he's happy with it.

Was the patient that bald on top, or did the doctor shave his head prior to surgery (as H&W often does)?

Yes. I would like to see what parable's hair looks like growing out - either with Dr White's photos or any others. I agree that the scar is wide, and there seems to be more redness than there should be at 9 months out. However, I have to say that this throwing around the terms "butcher", hack", "BS artist", etc is getting out of hand. Don't jump all over me guys. Don't accuse me of being a plant for some hair mill. It has been stated on this site before that an "okay" transplant is not good enough. I agree completely! However, parable's coverage, density, growth and hairline placement do not look like "butchery" from the photos posted. They look pretty similar to the close cut non-transplanted hair on his crown. Again, the scar and redness are low points. But I would have to think the transplant would fill out with an inch or two of growth. Is he justified in being disappointed? Probably. Was he promised much more than he got? I don't know - I wasn't there. Should he pursue reimbursment and repairs? Sure. Should Dr White have ever been on the "recommended" list in the first place? That's Pat's area.

I agree - HTs in females are more of a gamble. The female pics I've seen on doctors' web sites are of women with a bald spot toward the front. This may be the "female version" of MPB. For the overall thinning type of hairloss (in women OR men), I believe the only hope would be minoxydol or finasteride.

Maybe I'm just so used to looking at post op photos, whereas your coworkers are not. I think it looks great. Obvious scabs, but not much bruising or swelling. I would hold my head high and say "I had surgery!"

I think Arfy is right. Hair infomercials weren't around in the big plug days. But before Bosley, I remember seeing Nuhart commercials featuring Dan Haggarty, of Grizzly Adams fame. Later, they added the drummer from the Doobie Brothers.

Bernstein is also in NY, right?

What happened to Lorraine?

I pretty much agree. The clinics that offer financing are doing it for patient's convenience (usually at a price), the same way auto dealerships, etc do. Credit card, loan, or whatever works for you - you need to be honest with yourself about whether you can really afford the procedure. Then pay it off in the way you feel comfortable. A relative of mine who works in a plastic surgeon's office says they get a lot of semi-famous clients who plop down cash on the spot.

bluesman, It looks great, and I wish you the best of luck. But ... did you really need a transplant? I mean, the old hairline looks pretty low. I don't even know where the doctor managed to put 1500 grafts. I know - you're not 21. Your hairloss may have stabilized. And you deserve it and can afford it. So, why not? The doc says you won't ever run out of donor. So, you're set, in case you have future hair loss. I guess what I'm saying is: Your situation sounds too good to be true. Every time I notice my hairline getting a little higher, I say to myself "If it gets any worse, I'll seriously pursue my options". But It always looks like it's way to early to actually have a procedure, knowing that I would need a follow up in a few years. Furthermore, does such a slight lowering of the hairline provide any noticeable improvement? I guess only time will tell. Keep us posted.

Okay, the dense packing topic is a good one to be concerned with. Dr Feller himself has posted photos and commentary of dense packing on this web site. I think you need to find some of his patients - a lot of them. It shouldn't be too hard. You said you've heard good things, but not from actual patients. Who ARE the people saying good things? What are they saying, and what do they base their opinions on?

Fabe, Why do YOU want to go to Feller? There are lots of reputable HT docs in your area to choose from. Have you investigated or consulted with all or any of them? It seems you have a "good feeling" about him, and have heard nothing but positive reports, but this has little to do with actual research. The most objective consumers, myself included, fall into this trap from time to time. We shop and compare some products or services to death, then go with our gut feeling. Well, that's okay if all the other factors are equal. But sometimes we pick car A over car B (for example) because it is red, rather than blue. There must be something you like about Dr Feller over any other. What is it?

Eight weeks? Did I win?

Mike, It looks great. All I'm asking is: Does the transplant cover your scalp all the way back? In other words, how much coverage did you get from your 2500 (is that right?) grafts. There isn't any top view photo, as far as I recall. So, it's a little hard to tell. Again, it does look really good. Bob

Pretty impressive, Mike. That was some island - and triangular, to boot. How much of the top of your head was transplanted?

Jotronic, Your pics and commentary are enlightening. You're right - there isn't enough density to pull off every style. BUT they all look natural. It was great to see the "bed head" look - proves that you don't have to spend hours styling your transplant to make it work. As has been stated, side-parts and comb-backs provide a fuller look because of the layering, or shingle effect.

PrGuy, Maybe he did have a transplant. But those "before" and "after" photos don't prove it to me. They are different angles, and with different lighting. In one shot, his hair is pulled back and matted and in the other, it is fluffed forward. The color is different too. There are too many inconsistencies to make an accurate comparison. As I said, he may well have gotten an HT. But it's certainly not an open and shut case according to the pics.

Amen to that! For the record, I brought up dialators only because someone mentioned red flags. I sensed he was referring to dialators (he was in fact, referring to infomercials). A disclaimer, of sorts, on Elliot'True's use of dialators accompanied one of their videos I got a few years back. As for advertising, almost every company does it to one degree or another. It is up to the consumer to decide where he draws the line. Anyway, if any comments in my first post were interpreted as offensive to Dr True, I apologize. That wasn't my intent.

What would I do? First, I'd ask a doctor's opinion. Then, I'd work with him to determine how many grafts I'd need and how much donor I had to work with. These numbers in a class 3 patient would be TOTALLY different from those in a class 7. As for scheduling the second hypothetical surgery, too much would depend on the results of the first procedure to even speculate at this time. Your scar revision course of action sounds fabulous, in a "best case" scenario. That's what everyone wants, but ... Finally, why would you insert grafts into the donor scar, via FUE? You'd still be left with FUE scars or bare patches. More importantly, you'd be wasting grafts that will probably be needed for the crown or vertex in the future.

I don't think this is accurate. i believe you can inheret baldness from EITHER parent. And if there is a baldness gene on BOTH sides, your chances of becoming bald are much greater (though still not 100%). But I don't see how anyone can say from that one photo that he is balding and thinning. It looks like a normal full head of hair. But there is no closeup, no top view, etc and no earlier photo for comparison. tsachi, when I was 15, 20 or even 30 I kept looking at my dad who was a class 6, and wondering how many years I had left before that was me. I'm 47 now, and still keeping a close eye on my slowly receding hairline. But now I know I'm not going to look like my dad, who lost most of his hair by age 35. One more thing: It is normal for your hairline to recede slightly, as you age. So keep one eye on your hair, one eye on this website and both eyes focused on your life and the rest of the world.

I can't verify this, but I seem to remember hearing that one of those wonder potions (Avocor, I think) has Minoxydol as its main ingredient. This would mean it may be legit, but may not be any breakthrough. Sorry for being so vague. It is something to investigate. There must be a web site for Revivogen, no?

Microprose, Sorry, I guess I didn't read your post closely enough. You're saying an informercial is a red flag. Fair enough. Still, I didn't know Elliot and True had an informercial.

I have seen infomercials for Bosley, MHR and Nuhart. But not Elliot-True. Maybe they don't advertise in my area? I did get some of their sales literature, way back when. I know they use dialators. What red flags are you talking about?

I got Dr Jaffe's video, and the patients' results looked okay, but not great. You would think the examples chosen for the video would be the best of the best. I'm pretty sure Jaffe is now on MHR's staff in Minneapolis. No offense to Jaffe or MHR, but you owe it to yourself to visit Shapiro.

Just because celebrities can afford the best, doesn't mean they get the best. They, or "their people" still have to do the research and hope for the best. I heard Tom Arnold had his done at Bosley. Is this true? I think it looks great, BUT that is on screen. If he uses lots of concealers, to me that's not a successful transplant. We should all remember that ALL celebs, even the ones with lots of original hair have a team of makeup artists, etcto make them look good.