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Looking good balody, plenty of growing to come. ngtgb, I think thats bruce willis

Often after an HT you can see the patient has lost a few pounds weight and dropped the tache. This bloke has done the opposite and put on a bit of beef and gained a lovely moustache lol If its the same guy, then there is an obvious improvement in his hair and the work looks pretty good.

Janna, these were all achieved after 1 year use of propecia combined with rogaine foam? I had been using propecia and 5% rogaine for 12 mths with no regrowth. In fact i may still have lost some hair in the hairline. However, I switched to Xandrox 12.5% (12.5% minox combined with azelic acid from DR. Lee), anyway my crown has filled in nicely and i am getting some regrowth on the hairline with this combo after only 2mths. So just pointing out that it may be worth others trying the higher strength minox if they are not getting the results they had hoped for with the foam.

As others have said, the work looks like out dated mini grafts and is far from refined follicular units. There does seem to be multi haired grafts in the hairline and the overall density is low. Although the procedure is far from refined the good news is that we have seen many worse cases that have gone on to be repaired by one of the top drs. There is not much you can do in the meantime but wait. Use the time wisely to appraise your options and chose a top Dr. for your next procedure and you will be much more satisfied. Best of luck.

CH, Thats right, each FUE extraction leaves behind a small void/scar, the extracted follicule will NOT regrow in the donor. The extent of scarring that remains should be minimal with the use of < 0.9mm instruments and in the hands of one of the top FUE Drs. As ever the choice of Dr. is the most important thing. If your hairloss is expected to advance to higher NW levels, ultimately requiring a strip, then your physician may advise against FUE at this time. FUE does allow for a great donor safe area for extraction so you could request that the FUE grafts are taken in areas outwith the traditional strip safe area. It wouldnt even be a significant problem should the FUE grafts be taken from the traditional strip area, it would just mean slighly lower grafts from any subsequesnt strip excision. Best thing is to meet with some Drs. who offer both Strip & FUE to discuss your goals and options. Good luck & welcome to the boards your in the right place to continue your research!

Hi Juan, There is a synergistic effect from using both Rogaine and Propecia together. This has been confirmed by many of the top HT practices from experience with patients. The reason Rogaine is sometimes referenced as only working on the vertex is because this is the area the company carried out their extensive clinical trials. So they can only legitimately market the product along with the stats from their trials in its application to the vertex. However many people do have success with hairline and mid core so it is always worth a go as you never know your luck.

Thana, congrats on your HT, it looks extremely refined. Your loss patern is quite strange as you crown still looks to be solid enough. Id say you must be a NW4 of sorts. Either way, 3k in the front third will have you looking dapper in 6mths time!! Did the Doc comment on your hair characteristics. Looks like it is relatively thick with a very slight wave? Im sure that will help too. best, gazza

Than, hope thing went well for you today. I'm sure they did as Dr. Feller knows his stuff. Look forward to seeing your progress over the weeks. best, gazza

When Dr. Cole said "they don't slice the roots all are put in instead of FUE". I can only assume he was suggesting his new CIT allows for less transection. Hairdude goes on to mention that Dr. Coles office explained their lower graft estimation by "because other doctors split the follicular units and we don't.... " Which is clearly about spliting grafts. If we are talking only of the top doctors as mentioned then neither of these issues are relevant IMO.

Hi hairdude, B Spot is an experienced forum member and also consults for Dr. Shapiro. He recommended above that if you are looking into FUE/CIT/FIT, then begin researching Dr. Feller, Dr. Wolf, Dr. Harris,Dr. Rose and Dr. Bisanga. These guys all use less than 1mm extraction tools which helps minimise donor scarring. Further, they have a track record of good results with this technique along with solid ethics. I believe that what Dr. Cole seems to be alluding to in his email is than his new CIT technique avoids transecting the follicules. However, if you choose any of the aforementioned Drs. they will all produce high graft survival of likely > 95%. From your pics it seems you will just require hairline work. This will require mostly single hair grafts with perhaps some 2's in behind. So the reference to splitting grafts should not be relevant here sice they should all be singles. Again, any of the above Drs will give you good results. You need to continue to research and become comfortable with each Dr. Use this forum along with others to understand each Drs. reputations and profiles. This will help you make a more educated decision. good luck.

Really? Thats dissappointing as Ive heard other talking quite optimistically. The phase II results are released next yr so not long to wait. Congrats on your HT btw, looks very nice thus far.

Hey DHuge, You really suit the shaved head look my friend and the dermatch looks the part too. If its the scar that worries you, ever considered a tatooed along the lines of Jamie Fox? Would complement the military look. Either way you will be sorted come next yr. Best of luck.

Anyone got any info on what current forms of HM or cloning is being developed? I understand Intercytex are the forerunners of such research and development but I have read various conflicting accounts of what they are exactly working on. Is it a form of hair multiplication whereby they take a few hairs from the traditional donor area and multiply them in a lab environment or is it a gene therapy solution that will provide a pill to switch on the pathways for dormant hair shafts and promote them to grow once again? I know its still a while off but be interested to find out more ifo if anyone has it. Gazza

Anyone got any info on what current forms of HM or cloning is being developed? I understand Intercytex are the forerunners of such research and development but I have read various conflicting accounts of what they are exactly working on. Is it a form of hair multiplication whereby they take a few hairs from the traditional donor area and multiply them in a lab environment or is it a gene therapy solution that will provide a pill to switch on the pathways for dormant hair shafts and promote them to grow once again? I know its still a while off but be interested to find out more ifo if anyone has it. Gazza

Thanks Janna, I did document the progress for the first 8mths but then lost my camera!! Anyway, I shed a lot of hairs when i first began the meds and I am experiencing a shed again at the 1yr mark. All told, I do not think I have even recovered the lost ground from the first shed. I'm going to stick it out for another yr anyway and see what comes of it. Oh and back up my progress on the pc !!!

ha ha, did wonders for your hair though!! I prefer Jessica.

lol Bill, whats for desert?!!

BeHappy, I bought the same laser as you about a week ago and have been using it every day. Its definately worth a go at that price. When you say it has been working well, have you experienced regrowth or just a generally healthier feel about the hair? Thanks.

Janna, great post. You see these results on certain websites but there is so much more merit to them coming from a respected source such as yourself. Maybe it should be pinned at the top of this section to motivate new comers to try the meds first. I've got to say I am jealous now tho as ive been on propecia & minox dilegently for 1 yr and my hairloss has continued :-(

Hi Lara, It's good that you are doing some thorough research. I too looked into this a while back and found the below useful. Difference between DO v MD Dr. Fellers work and great reputation online precedes him so perhaps he doesn't feel the need to use the D.O. letters. Also, I think his website is in a transitional period and presently being updated. I am sure it used to state that he was a D.O. on his website.

Great post NG2GB & keep the pics coming!! Some really good insight from Jo too. Hey Jo, I don't think the part hair characteristics play in the eventual outcome is discussed enough. I'm interested in the patient with the pale skin, jet black hair and coarse donor as his characteristics are similar to mine. I have always worried that with the coarse black hair there would be a risk of the hairline looking pluggy. Can you describe in a bit more detail what techniques you use in this instance to ensure a natural hairline? Would you chose nape hairs to soften the hairline for example and I assume the hair to scalp contrast means you must transplant at maximum density? Thanks

I've seen that figure quoted on the forum a few times. Probably closer to 200cm of baldness for NW6. Hopefully Bill or someone will confirm. If Shuffles was 120cm, then with his 7k grafts he would have achieved really good density and hence his results.

Never heard that listed as a side before. I'm not sure he can be certain it was from Fin. Seems a strange one

Anyone else see Shuffles sunken eyes that he puts down to Fin/Avo?? Very worrying!!

NG2GB, A typical NW6 has c200cm to 250cm of balding area to cover. It stands to reason that the smaller the area requiring transplanted the higher density can be acheived. This may not be discussed explicitly but it is probably assumed knowledge. The best characteristic include having minimal hair to skin contrast (light hair and pale skin or dark hair and dark skin), thick hair calibre and curly hair rather than straight. Other preferable characteristics are high donor density and good scalp laxity. I think there is a device to measure donor density. Hair thickness is likely noted by the Doc when doing a visual inspection of a patients donor at consultation.