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12 minutes ago, jjalay said:

A hairmill is also a normal clinic.The patient in this thread asked for opinions and i told him my opinion, you see this as an attack because this is your job here, to defend hairmills from turkey that are paying you, you ve just exposed yourself and you keep making it worst. You have accused other members in this forum for being paid trolls just for having different view in turkish clinics but this bullying wont pass with me. This is your work here, you keep saying that and i am sure by now that you are the one getting paid from clinics to discredit patient and defent clinics in turkey where you are coming from. This shows what kind of lowlife you are and nothing more.

I wont reply any further because this has nothig to do with this thread and with OP.

well everyone here said it’s too early to judge and the spacing looks ok, but you did an attack here one of the hundred you have done to Turkish clinics. 
I don’t defend any clinic as I said you. I’m just trying to expose your unethical behaviour and you a paid shill trying to sabotage a whole country not just the hair mills. 
the below message explains a lot. 
I remember in another post from you  that was about a different country than Turkey in which a patient was worrying about his donor at 20 days post op you said to the patient “relax and be patient, in Turkey you would see the real horror” , which shows your EMPATHY and your AGENDA to ATTACK a specific country not just the hair mills.

But now you say it’s overharvesting at 17 days post op without even seen the post op donor pictures and everyone said here it’s too early except of you, the reason you told that is obvious and anyone can understand it. 
You are a getting paid doing the dirty job here. Your behaviour from the first day you signed this forum before 4 months is unethical and all should learn about that.  

Have a nice day.  

1 hour ago, jjalay said:

Check out your posting history buddy, it mostly has to do with clinics in turkey, some of them are Cosmedica, Resul Yaman, Hair of Istanbul, ASMED, HLC. Whenever a post is coming up and it has to do with these clinics and other hairmills in turkey you are always popping up and commenting trying to defend the clinic or to discredit every other poster who has a different opinion, making unethical and completely false accusations of beeing paid trolls. This kind of bullying may have place in the clinic that you are working in turkey but not here.

You are getting paid to sabotage the clinics that are from a specific country (Turkey).  That’s the only reason you signed to this forum before 4 months and you started working to sabotage Turkish clinics you have in you agenda from the first day. 
I don’t defend any hairmill. You are attacking a whole country because you have this in your agenda. You are exposed on that thread and on other threads that are related to a clinic from Turkey, which are also Normal clinics and not hair mills. 

All posters on this thread said it’s to early to judge at 17 days and said after they saw the post op donor pictures that donor extraction spacing is ok but you did another attack to this patient, one  of the hundred attacks that you have done during the 4 months you are on this forum. You started doing that from your first day showing that you signed for that reason and you are following a specific agenda. 
 

I remember in another post from a different country than Turkey in which a patient was worrying about his donor at 20 days you said  to the patient “relax and be patient, in Turkey you would see the real horror” , which shows your EMPATHY and your AGENDA to ATTACK a specific country not just the hair mills. But now you say it’s overharvesting at 17 days post op without even seen the post op donor pictures. You are a paid troll doing the dirty job here. Your behaviour is unethical and all should learn about you  

6 minutes ago, jjalay said:

Yeah, one of my last posts where i am attacking clinics in turkey:

"It looks great so far. Pekiner is really one of the few 2-3 doctors in Turkey that know what they are doing. "

All your posts are about defending clinics in turkey and even trying to discredit patients that have posted here to show off the bad work that hairmills in turkey are doing. This is the definition of unethical behaviour.

You just exposed yourself.

I don’t defend any hair mill and in general I don’t defend any clinic. I’m just trying to expose your unethical behaviour, because you are getting paid to sabotage some specific clinics and anyone can see that. 

8 minutes ago, jjalay said:

Yes at 2,5 weeks after 4700 grafts in one day this is not how the donor area should look like and in my opinion this is overharvesting, this is my opinion and this is what OP has asked for, opinions from members of this forums. As for this patient from dr Bekir i have asked him what is his connection with this clinic together with two other members of this forum because his whole posting history was about this doctor, never attacked him. But you showed up as always to defend the clinic and make stupid accusations about trolling.

As i said before you have an agenda and you just exposed it, you are the one who gets paid to defend garbage clinics.

You can’t judge at 17 days post op without even seen post op pictures. The above members said that too. But because you agenda is  to attack clinics from Turkey you told that. You are expose yourself on that post and anyone can see that you are an unethical paid troll. 
 

dr Bekir’s patient just shared his journey with the doctor and you asked him unethical questions that you don’t ask to other members sharing their journey. You were attacking this patient because he was from a Turkish clinic which is not hair mill. You are getting paid to do that attacks to specific clinics. You are an unethical paid troll doing that job here

I don’t defend any garbage clinic, you are getting paid to attack every single clinic from Turkey not the hair mills but the normal clinics too. 
 

1 minute ago, jjalay said:

I would do that no matter what country he is from or where he had his hairtransplant done. And i said to OP that this is not how it is supposed to look like, nothing about the clinic he went. You are always coming here to comment and defend the clinic when something has to do with a clinic in turkey, even if this is the worst hairmill, because this is your job. You have just exposed yourself and you try to blame others for it.

No you have empathy with Turkey and you always attack clinics from that country no matter they are hair mills or not.  
If he was from another country you would say it’s too early to judge but because he is from Turkey you make judgements at 17 days post op without even see the post op donor pictures. That’s an explain a lot about your unethical behaviour.

2 minutes ago, jjalay said:

I think you have just exposed yourself mate. All you are doing here is defending clinics from turkey, even the worst hairmills, and until now i could not understand why you are doing this. Now i think you said it from your own. But we are not all the same as you are.

I don’t defend any clinic from Turkey especially hair mills. I didn’t defend that clinic too.

You are attacking all clinics from Turkey because you are getting paid to do that. You were attacking the last time a patient from dr Bekir which is not a hair mill. 
 

you are a paid troll and your reason to be here is to sabotage some specific clinics. 
 

You make judgements here at 17 days post op without even see the post op donor pictures, which is unethical.  That means you are not reliable and the other member above understood that too
 

7 minutes ago, donpizmeov said:

Sorry dude but this is absolutely common in the Industry especially when you go to a hairmill, but it does not mean he have been overharvested. Have you ever had a HT? I think others haven posted what I already said so I dont have more to add. 

Jjalay is always attacking clinics from Turkey because that’s his agenda to do so. If this patient was from another country he wouldn’t do that. 

5 minutes ago, jjalay said:

 

Yes i like to attack hairmills in turkey, i guess you are here to defend them. Or not?

You attack every single clinic from Turkey because you are getting paid from your clinic to do so.
That’s the reason you are signed to this forum to sabotage clinics from Turkey  

I remember the last time you were attacking a patient doing his presentation from dr Bekir which is not a hair mill because he was from Turkey. You are an unethical paid troll 
 

10 minutes ago, jjalay said:

I am telling him the truth and what i think, this is not how it supposed to look 2,5 weeks after ht. I am not trying to scare OP but i dont want to lie to him either, taking into account the clinic he went and the number of grafts that got extracted in one day this is probably overharvesting and if this is the case he should start exploring options about how to handle this after 6 months. Dont be like this assh%les representatives from garbage clinics saying everything is fine and this is probably schockloss. OP should not be dealing with this and this is not fine!

Well you have no idea what you are telling to the op. 
you can’t judge at 17 days post op and it might be shock loss. Also you haven’t seen post pictures but you make judgements. That’s absolutely unethical what you are doing. 
 

You have empathy with a specific country and tiu are always attacking clinics from Turkey, because you have agenda to sabotage these specific clinics. 
 

The reason you are here is because you are getting paid  to sabotage clinics
 

Happy growing. You selected a great surgeon  who specialises in high density hairlines! 
I would like to ask you what was the cost of your hair transplant per graft ?

On 12/8/2023 at 12:33 AM, beegee84 said:

1 younger pre-hair loss photo of me at 23 I don't expect to get anywhere near this and the hairline I've gone for is a good 10mm-15mm higher than my original line which I wanted due to how far gone I was

Great yield of grafts so far. It seems that you  are going to get a great result. Waiting for your final result !

Great results 👍

Happy growing. Great plan and design. Dr bekir in Turkey seems to be a great choice of doctor  who does the whole procedure by himself. Waiting for your future updates 😀 

2 hours ago, Alon Morash said:

Thanks! The other options you've suggested are great but they have limited availability therefore they are less relevant to me.  Bisanga seems like a more known doctor than Maras, but my concern about Bisanga is that he does the surgery only in one day and Maras does it in 2 days which may be better for the transplant? 

Who would you consider better for hairline? Im mainly looking for framing my face.

 

Thanks!

The other doctors that I suggested have enough availability as I have seen from other members who contacted them.
 
It doesn’t matter if he does it in one day or two. It depends on the number of grafts and every surgeon works differently. 
Bisanga is definitely much better option for hairline and he is in another league as we all know. 

I don’t think these 2 surgeons are comparable.  

Dr bisanga is a top and well known doctor and he is on another league.
There are also another great surgeons to consider which are much better than Maras like Freitas, Lorenzo, couto, Ferreira, pinto, Eugenix ( Sethi, bansal), pittella, feriduni, lupanzula

On 11/30/2023 at 2:29 PM, FaganBecker said:

I'm now 4 months and two weeks into this thing. It seems it has been quite static now for a while. A marginal difference since I last posted pics, with my left side lagging considerably, especially in a well-lit, exposed environment. I am starting to get slightly nervous, since I think I was anticipating more consistent growth, chugging along slowly, but I guess that's probably not realistic. Slightly alarmed that when I get up close, I can't see any new hairs sprouting amidst the hairs that are currently there. I guess, we shall see! 

Beyond that, I have had a few comments from people that the new hairline looks quite artificial/'too straight'. I've struggled to totally get what they mean by too straight since as you can see in the photos it is a resoundingly bowing hairline shape. I guess that the front-line itself is perhaps too straight, given how thin the hair currently is?! Usually when people's hair starts to thin considerably it disrupts the lines of the hairline, which is perhaps why it looks artificial now, being such a defined line yet so sparsely covered? Nonetheless, it's just past 4 months so probably too early on to worry about this sort of thing! 

Beyond that, at the very front and centre of the hairline seems to be made up almost entirely of multiples, which does look a tad pluggy. This is something I am concerned about, but as I've been told here (and by HLC themselves) that it's too early to assess. Seems this is the well-trod path of everyone that gets one of these done. Panic, be reassured by everyone and their mother that it's too early to tell, panic some more, and then walk away basically happy. Still, definitely panicking!

 

Will upload progress pics in a month or so! 

 

Waiting for your new update. HLC is a top clinic  which produces great and very dense results and I’m sure you are going to be fully satisfied at the end. 😀

Happy growing. Nice and clean work. Dr yaman is a great doctor and I’m sure you will be satisfied with your final result. Keep us updated 😀

Awesome design and plan. Dr keser is one of the best doctors not only in Turkey but in general…

Happy growing. You did a great choice by selecting a good and experienced surgeon like dr yaman and your result is Right on track. Waiting for your future updates.  

Around 3000 grafts to have a good density 

Happy growing the work looks nice. Why you didn’t shave your recipient area ? Was it your choice ?

Stunning result as always from dr Freitas 🙌

14 minutes ago, BackFromTheBrink said:

Ive no idea if you have any kind of association with a specific doctor. However, it appears you promote one in particular in most of your posts. Have you had surgery with him?

Exactly He promotes one particular doctor and he is trying to sabotage some specific doctors. @toon_toon is definitely a paid shill who made a new account here to do that job. 

11 minutes ago, toon_toon said:

 

I am on this forum to find as much information possible for my future HT in late 2024/early 2025.

Have not decided yet for the surgeon, but my list is now Pinto, Pekiner, Laorwong and Ferreira. (After consulting with all 4)

If you or someone else can find some bad results from for example Laorwong, I would appreciate if you shared this info. 
Thank you 

You just made a new account here (not even one month member) and you act like you are an old member. So you definitely made this shill account to write what you don’t want to write with your main account or you probably got banned with your previous account.

That’s a shill behaviour meaning you made a second account to promote one specific doctor and you are trying to sabotage some specific clinics. You are definitely getting paid  to do that. I don’t sabotage any clinic like you with lies.  

1 minute ago, toon_toon said:

Yes, I know that most of the surgeons use techs. It is a must, otherwise the docs would have suffered fatigue and the operations would take ages. But the top docs have top skilled techs, a team that is like a machinery
 

Laorwong is not a " new" doctor. You can find results even back to 2016. 

There’s doctors doing the procedure alone. There’s not any fatigue and things like that. Ferreira and pinto do the procedure alone without techs. Pekiner the same.