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Happy growing. The hairline design and the density looks pretty good. I see that All Eugenix doctors seem to do similar designs and densities. I will be following this thread. 

Looks clean work. I wish you the best ! Btw do you have the surgical report showing the grafts distribution ?

Most patients see their most growth till the month 7. After 7 months there is more thickening of the existing hairs. However crown growth might take more time. 

Everything looks right on track. You got some early growth too. Waiting for your next updates !

Happy growing. Absolute hair clinic seems to be a great option. Waiting to see your final result 🙏

The pictures are not very clear but it seems that you are right on track for 4 months. Be patient a few more months. Final result is at 12 months. 

Good luck. You are the second case from dr bekir in this forum. I will be following your progress. Keep us updated!

Happy growing. That’s an interesting case with a huge amount of grafts. 

Everything looks right on track for month 1. Freitas is a great surgeon and im sure you will be totally satisfied with your result. Just be patient 👍

On 1/12/2024 at 10:09 PM, MildSeven said:

Nice man

Your Crown and Midscalp Are Perfect now

i still remember the picture you showed me last june, you want add some density at midscalp and crown

 

 

 

Your result is incredible. Massive before after change for a nowrood 6 patient..Eugenix is propably the best clinic for higher norwood cases like you!

18 minutes ago, omarca said:

12th month in sunlight and bathroom lights with haircut

For my 2nd procedure with Dr Mwamba on march 2024 i hope to touchup a little the left part of hairline but the majority of the grafts will be for the top and the crown (2500-3000). Since all my top of scalp hair was miniaturized i needed a lot of work done and i did my research and found Dr Mwamba. Also my hairline was gone :/.  A 2nd procedure with DrM was always in the planning…and just after i hit the 12mo i scheduled the second part for march 2024. Iam super happy with the work achieved by Mwamba and his team.

Till then now…see you in march and happy growing to all !

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats a great result and really natural! Enjoy your new hair...😃

7 hours ago, Lurker 23 said:

Hi all, Just to clarify my current mixed feelings.

These are based upon the design. Is the hairline potentially too conservative? As the corners remain quite high.

Secondly, I’m slightly concerned about the patch on the back of my head below the crown. Is this this normal? Will this strengthen over time?

Happy growing. The hairline design looks fine and nice. The corners are in most cases in higher height than the central part of a hairline. You would need even more grafts for a lower hairline. 

the patch will be disappeared on the upcoming months too.

So there’s nothing to worry about. Just be patient for your final result !

14 hours ago, HappyinHalifax said:

I received a little less than 3,500 grafts in late November 2022 under the care of Dr. Gur and his staff at Fue Capilar in Istanbul.  These are pictures before and one year after (with some progression photos).  I started taking Finasteride (1mg/day) 3 months before the procedure and am still taking it presently.  I followed all after-care recommendations and took a 2-week vacation after the procedure to allow healing.  There were 2 options with Dr. Gur. The more expensive has Dr. Gur perform all steps while the less expensive option (my pick) had Dr. Gur do the hairline and implantation, but has his staff do the harvesting from the donor area.  Overall, it was a seamless experience from pickup at the airport to transport to the hotel.  The office was clean, staff was professional, and I have nothing but positive feedback to express.

Looking great man. Very happy for you. How much did you pay for the standard package of dr Gur ?

3 hours ago, beegee84 said:

Month 5 not nearly as drastic a change as month 3 and 4. In natural cloudy lighting it looks okay harsh lighting from above not yet.

We can see different rates that it started to grow in different areas my front left (your right) it's came through really strong really early, immediately behind seems to be the most patchy area. After doing lots of research the back for absolutely everyone comes through later than the front. Front right (your left) some hairs only just started coming through in the last week so it'll lag behind but this is still perhaps better than average for month 5.

I'm just hoping this isn't it if I'm early, because some areas haven't come through much for it to be the end product.

At the moment it looks like the balding but not yet there look where I had the op. Obviously at the back it looks unnatural because it hasn't been done....... yet!!

Very good progress for just 5 months. And you still have lots of time. 

Happy growing. Looks clean work !

1 hour ago, Norwood311 said:

I've contacted a few, Eugenix I don't think is that good, Feriduni and Pekiner are booked out. Keser does very few grafts per day, Bisanga I've heard isn't very good. I haven't heard of the rest of them. Is there any one surgeon in particular that you think would be particularly good for me? That I would actually be able to see sometime next year (even if it's late 2024)? Because at the moment the only one I can see that has good results and is taking 2024 appointments is Laorwong. Would I just have to get on a waiting list for anyone else?

Where have u heard that dr bisanga isn’t that good? He is a world class surgeon.
Eugenix also is very good clinic, especially dr Sethi and dr arika are top class doctors. 

dr pittella is also very good, dr luis Nader, Bogota hairlines too

Also I have seen from other members who contacted the other surgeons that I listed above, that they have free appointments . Anyway there’s many options, so do your research.

here’s the forum recommendation list 

https://hairtransplantnetwork.com/best-hair-transplant-surgeons
 

2 hours ago, Norwood311 said:

So I've looked into a few of them. Couto seems to be booked out for several years, so he isn't really an option. De Freitas does row implants, so that's not really an option either, I might wanna cut my hair short sometimes and rows just don't look as good. Pinto apparently does rows too. No idea about Ferreira but I've heard he's booked out several years too

Even if a doctor has a longer waiting list you could pay a deposit and wait for cancellations, so you would definitely do the hair transplant much earlier than expected.
min genera You do a hair transplant to have long hair. I have seen results from dr Freitas which look good even with short style, so it will not be a problem even if you do short style too. Same with pinto. 
 

Other options would be Eugenix, bisanga, feriduni, lupanzula, Mwamba, Pekiner, keser, Lorenzo, Vila, dr Espinosa, dr hans heinicke …there’s too many options to consider. 
 

13 hours ago, Norwood311 said:

I am willing to consider any surgeon on earth, I want the best possible result so price isn't really a factor to me. However, as far as I can tell most of the benefits of higher priced surgeons aren't really seen at my Norwood level. I'm only Norwood 3, which is still pretty bad, but I don't have diffuse thinning so essentially all I need is hairline work and possibly some upper temple restoration, but even that doesn't need to be perfect as I tend to wear my hair long in the front.

Dr Laorwong is generally considered very good, the only somewhat negative reviews I've seen are from 5 or 6 years ago. But he's also way, way cheaper than Konior, like 1/4 the cost, which does make me think the quality is just going to be worse. Even if I get 3000 or more grafts (and he thinks I need less, more like 2500) it still would be well under 10k, which is far less than Konior or FUEgenix (Dr Ahmed I think?). However, I can actually get in with Laorwong. Guys like Couto or Pekiner aren't even taking new patients apparently. The higher priced guys like Konior can always get you in too, the real benefit with Konior is I wouldn't need to travel as far as I live in the US. But would there be any benefit? Could I get better angulation, more growth, or less scarring going to Konior?

The main things I want are relatively high density (AT LEAST 50 hairs per cm^2), good hairline design, and possibly some temple restoration, but mostly high up, close to the hairline. And I would definitely prefer FUE over FUT, but maybe FUT is better for me? Not sure

What do you guys think? Is a more expensive surgeon worth it? Even if it's only 50% percent better, I think that's worth paying more because this is something that I want to last my whole life and I don't want some messed up donor region. Konior generally has very good outcomes, especially for guys like me and almost zero scarring. 

Frankly I think these are very comparable results. Maybe the photos are too low resolution but I don't see a major difference. If anything I think Laorwong's results look a bit better, and the photos are higher resolution. But Laorwong does a TON of surgeries, I worry he may be inconsistent, but I haven't seen any evidence he is. 

https://hairtransplantnetwork.com/dr-kongiat-laorwong/patient/hairline-restoration-fue-2540-grafts-7-months-post-op

https://hairtransplantnetwork.com/dr-raymond-konior/patient/raymond-konior-md-chicago-hair-institute-2884-graft-hairline-restoration

Is Konior really worth paying 25 thousand dollars more? I just don't know. But the idea of going outside the US for surgery is definitely odd to me. I mean what if I have complications and need to go back? Not exactly and easy thing to do.

 

Both surgeons are great. Their price difference is huge though, so if I had to choose I would go to laorwong who is also safe choice but with much less cost. Otherwise I would look to other surgeons in Europe such as Ferreira, pinto, Freitas, couto etc. 

12 minutes ago, jjalay said:

You were also in the thread that he posted and i hope you have seen my answer. Or were you too busy popping up as always trying to defend clinics and discredit other posters? You have exposed yourself here and i wont derail this thread anymore. Accusing other posters of hidden agendas so that they wont figure you out or bullying wont pass with me.

you commented again on this thread though, because I agreed with @duchaine calling you the most unethical, most moronic and most stupid member he has ever met on this forum..seems like other members of this community have understood your dirty role here and have the worst opinion about you too…

2 hours ago, duchaine said:

Hi Belve, my 2 cents tip is stop to argue with this guy.
He is the most moronic and unehtical person I have ever met on this board.
From my personal experience, I never met a such stupid person before: he cut my statements to say that I was contradicting myself. But the statement he was cutting was there and everybody could read it! Can you image someone  so stupid and dishonest at the same time? 

This thread says everything.
 

 

Hi duchaine I have already seen this thread and I 100% agree with what your are saying about this guy here. 

On 12/10/2023 at 1:44 AM, Youth_Again said:

3 months update 

I am 2 days shy of the 3 months mark, time for a little update. 
right side looks better and fuller than the left side so far, but I guess for only 3 months it looks decent.

excited for month 4, I may be able to do a decent haircut. It still is very visible that I did a hair transplant at the moment 

Great growth for 3 months. Dr couto is probably the best doctor in Europe so I expect from you to get a high quality result. I will be following. 

Just now, jjalay said:

The only thing that you are exposing is your dirty job. Ask your boss 10 lyras more for today for the extra work. As i said before, a LOWLIFE.

You are a paid troll. Tell your boss to give you good salary for the 4 months of  constantly attacking the clinics that he told you to do so. 

18 minutes ago, jjalay said:

This is the cases you are reffering to:

I have asked the same thing that 3 other members have done, what is his connection with this doctor( might be his brother, his cousine, his co-worker) based on his posting history and i didnt get any answer either. This is a attack only in your mind because you have an agenda to defend clinics that probably are paying you to do that.

I have told the patient on the previous thread "in turkey you would have seen the real horror" because his first choice was a hairmill in turkey and he cancelled it.

OP make this thread to ask different opinions about his donor area, if its overharvested or not, and i told him my opinion that based on the clinic, the number of grafts in one day and the photos it looks overharvested. Other member are having of coure different opinions, they express it and this is what we are doing here.

But your only purpose here is to attack and accuse other members as being trolls and defend clinics in turkey, that i am preety sure by now they are paying you to do that or you are a co-worker from one of these clinics. This is what i call lowlife.

 

I didn’t defend any clinic. Like I said I’m just exposing your unethical behaviour. 
On this thread you did judgements about over-harvesting at 17 days post without even see the the post op pictures which is unethical and shows that you are unrealiable, while everyone else said it’s too early to judge like every normal member of a forum would say. 

A normal member would not do that you are doing here on this forum with so much passion… 

From your first days on this forum you started doing this dirty job by attacking this country its clinics and the patients that tried to shared their journey with a specific clinic of Turkey.
Like you did with the patient of dr Bekir, who just shared his experience with the clinic and you were asking him ridiculous and unethical questions which you don’t ask to members from other countries. Any member doing his presentation saying general words of why he selected a clinic, but you don’t ask them that unethical question trying to attack them..showing your empathy and your agenda to constantly attack any thread is related to a clinic from Turkey which you are probably getting paid to do so.

most of your messages is about “avoid Turkey” “Turkey you would have seen the real horror” etc which makes you unreliable because you have empathy with his country and you started doing that from your first days on that forum which means you signed  for this reason. 

Happy growing. Eugenix is a top clinic with much experience in giving good coverage to higher Norwood cases like yours. I’m sure you will be satisfied with your final result. Keep us updated. Good luck 🤞 🙏🏻 

27 minutes ago, jjalay said:

This is the case you are reffering to:

The patient had 1300 grafts in one day and he was worrying about the pimples that he had on his donor area, and i have told him judging from the pictures that this is nothing to worry about, again about pimples not overharvesting. If you compare these two cases this is night and day.

That you are coming here attacking other members with such false and misleading arguments and bladant lies shows once again your purpose, your agenda, and what kind of lowlife you are.

Well the fact that you said in the Patient to the other thread “in Turkey you would see the real horror” show your empathy and your unethical behaviour and the purpose you signed to this forum before 4 months to attack a whole country that you started from your first days on this forum.   

many of your messages is about “avoid Turkey” and similar messages attacking this specific country it’s clinics and the patients who tried to share their journey with a specific Turkish clinic.

 And the fact that on this thread everyone said it’s too early to judge and after they saw the post op donor pics they said spacing looks ok but you made  judgements at 17 days post op without even see post op donor pics….that’s shows that you are unreliable because you have an agenda to sabotage this country.