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  1. 9 hours ago, NARMAK said:

    I will be honest, i hope there's more growth but in the back of my mind, i have a small nagging feeling that i probably have had quite a lot of the growth so far if new hairs. However, if the hair that's sprouting here and there to fill in does darken and mature, i'll be really happy. 

    I think the temple points in particular do feel like i'm more at the halfway point compared to the hairline with how they're not as dark or thickened up yet. 

    Personally i do think that my dandruff/dry skin/inflammation issue has hindered me a but but i can't be 100% scientifically accurate on that. What i do also think is that there could have been a bit of late shedding too which might have possibly caused a bit of lower density and thinning look in that left side. Maybe. It's harder to say. 

    Pictures aren't unfortunately the same as looking in the mirror and noticing things looking a certain way i think. 

    Eagerly waiting on the 6th month update .

  2. On 11/9/2022 at 9:15 PM, sepand97 said:

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    Don’t you think that you should wait some more time before judging that the grafts are placed at wrong  angles .After the third month the grafts still gets adjusted within the scalp due to scar beneath and then grows at the angle at which the slits were made .So may be after the shedding phase is over you might see your grafts syncing up well with existing hairs you might not need another surgery .

    Have a word with your clinic and see what they says 

    @Melvin- Moderator What your thoughts on this ? 



     

  3. On 11/8/2022 at 10:11 PM, Bb111 said:

    Thank you @Madhur Vansil and @MazAB. To be honest I think I'm getting greedy and was hoping to be one of those unicorns who looks amazing at 3.5 to 4 months. Anyway I'm having steady growth and reminding myself to be patient. I'll update in the next 1 to 2 weeks. 

    Good to see the patience you are having right now .This ugly duckling phase is having a toll over me with so much thoughts around the hairs and their angles and all stuff .Hope this time passes  🔜 

  4. Hi Guys ,

            I have to attend an event coming weekend and I want to avoid wearing a cap so thought of applying hair fibers.

    As per your experiences is it safe to apply hair fibers ?
    Are there any risks or side effects of using hair fibers  on growth of transplanted hairs specifically if you are at early days post op (Currently I am at 50 days post OP)

    Sharing the product image which I currently have -

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    My journey -https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/65971-eugenix-norwood-2sep-20222207-graftsdr-priyadarshini-das/

     

     

  5. On 10/18/2022 at 12:09 AM, Bb111 said:

    I agree with the others. Everything looks to be in order. Next 2 to 3 months are the toughest but there will be light at the end of the tunnel. Looking forward to following your progress.

    Hi @Bb111I saw your journey until now and it looks amazing and you might have gone way ahead after the ugly duckling phase . I had one question regarding the Hair fibers which you have posted in your journey that you used to attend  an event and it amazingly covered your scalp even while the transplanted hairs were thin . 
     

    According to your experience  did you had any itching issues or any side effect on transplanted hair after using the hair fibers and is it safe enough to apply it ?

    I am at 50 days post op and was thinking of applying hair fibers on an upcoming event this weekend .Also it would be great if you can tell which hair fibre product you used ? Currently I do have a Kerrato Hair Fibre product .Also can we use the fibre hold spray after applying those fibers ?

    Sharing an image :

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    Hoping to hear from you soon .
     

  6. 13 hours ago, NARMAK said:

    You seemed to have kept quite a lot of the transplanted hair as mentioned but don't freak out if there's a but more shedding over the next 45 days either and be aware the angles at this time might now look "right" if the hairs being pushed out ready to shed. It should all hopefully regrow in the correct way but it can take time for the hair to thicken, mature and darken. It can take up to 12-18 months for full results and you've got to be prepared to be patient and try not to lose hope. You went to a solid clinic after research. Trust the process. 

    Thanks Kamran on your inputs , As you said above this means that shedding could happen upto 90 days and yea I seem to feel little more relaxed after hearing from people experiences around in this forum and Reddit .

    Also about the hair directions which does not look ‘right’ now and once they shed and then they grow back in proper angles so what about the hairs that don’t shed do they sync up with correct direction and native hairs without being shed ?

  7. Hi Guys ,

            I am at 49 days post op and my shedding started around 23-25 th day and still shedding and I noticed that some transplanted hairs which already grown well are also shedding .Does it means that I am late shedder and due to this would be late grower ?

    I have read many Reddit posts and here about shedding and many of them had experienced shedding from around 15th day and ends by around 40 days .

    Sharing some shedding pics which gives the idea on hair length which are  shedding now 

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    Also you can take a look at my full journey here - https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/65971-eugenix-norwood-2sep-20222207-graftsdr-priyadarshini-das/#comment-675261

     

    and share your thoughts on the progress as if it slow or upto the mark 

     

    Thanks 

  8. 45 Days Update :

    Today is the 47th day and I am uploading the pics which were taken two days back .

    The shedding phase is still in progress but some transplanted hairs have grown well .Also still worried about the some transplanted hairs appears in different direction if I click a pic from top of the head and as discussed with clinic it will be in symmetry once they grow and will start matching the native hairs .

    Below is the progress of 45 days post op so far.Please share your thoughts on the progress as if it appears to be slow or on point ?

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  9. On 10/27/2022 at 9:01 PM, NARMAK said:

    5 month-ish Update

    Sorry for the delay, had a lot of things going on to deal with but wanted to give you all an update. I'm about just over 5 months post-op and generally i feel confident things are heading in the right direction. The hair appears to be getting thicker and darker in some areas whilst some new growth has come and added extra density. There's still definitely weak spots i hope will improve with some further hairs sprouting, getting thicker and darker but i have another 7+ months to go for that and i'm not even at the halfway point. 

    I've included both wet hair pictures and also dry for a comparison. The lighting makes a difference two so i've included 2 wet hair pictures to demonstrate this but in general dim lit lighting, things on the frontal hairline seem to blend well. 

    There's a couple areas on the temple points, both left and right where hair hasn't grown in and creating a slight gap there. Hopefully this is just a hair due to regrow or sprout, but when i pay attention, it's noticeable enough to me. 

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    Wow Awesome improvement Narmak congratulations  .Looks really good 👏👏

    BTW how did you manage to explain your barber to only cut the non transplanted hair as I guess you wouldn’t have told the barber to cut the transplanted hair length for symmetry with native hairs so that they grow first right ? Or else if you can elaborate on this ?

  10. 2 hours ago, NARMAK said:

    One thing to bear in mind is that usually some hairs have the actual bit that produces the hair anchored in after the HT but because of trauma etc. it could end up immediately into a telogen phase and resting phase. So the existing hair has been shed under the skin but is only slowly getting pushed up and out. So it looks like it's just shed smaller because of this. 

    The immediate post-op pictures you had showed what looks like proper angles and directions. You can compare with mine too and the angles become weird looking as the hair begin to shed. It's pretty normal. 

    Just think of the next 2nd and 3rd months as the worst because almost all the hair that's shedding etc. falls out and then Month 4 onwards is when the growth starts slowly and surely getting better over time. You don't feel like things are going well, because trust me having been where i was a few months ago, i also wondered whether my HT was going to be successful but you cannot think long like that and i immediately brushed the idea from my head. You have to trust the process and your research. 

    Things when they are within the first 2-3 weeks i think look the best at a short hairstyle when most of the hair are there. Months 2 & 3 wipe you out and then it's a slow process till after 6 months when sometimes you might start feeling fully positive of the direction your growth is going. 

     

     

     

     

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this 

  11. 19 minutes ago, Ryan Daniel said:

    You're all good man, trust me

    Everything looks in order. Your donor area has healed up and your grafts are densely packed with the correct angles and growth direction. However things will show more accurately when hairs are matured later on. It will determine how easy you can style your hair

    You have nothing else to worry about right now, just wait until month 6 or 7 to get a rough idea of the final result

     

    @Madhur Vansil  Good luck

    Yea I know patience is the key

    Thank you for such assuring words .

  12. Hi Guys ,

    Posting a 30 Day (1 Month update ).
     

    Shedding is noticeable now but some transplanted hairs are grown well with good pace and seems to cover the head .However more shedding in the 2nd month might highlight the bald areas which had transplanted hairs which are in shedding now.

    Also Aloe Vera gel did well on moisturising scalp and I didn’t got any need to use the anti dandruff shampoo.

    Here are the pictures :-

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    Front - (Slight Head down )

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    Both Side Angles from Top-

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    Both Side Angles-

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    Donor Area -

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    Shedding -

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    Two things got me worried -

    1- That some shedding hairs are really too small seems like they didn’t grew at all before shedding .Hope that’s normal 🤞

    2- The hair directions seems to be different in some areas on the side for which I shared with the clinic and they said with the transplanted hairs growing up they will get into the perfect angle and will mix with non transplanted ones . Hope that’s normal too 🤞


    @NARMAK and others Please share your thoughts on how do you see the progress .

     

     

     

     

  13. 10 hours ago, Berba11 said:

    This is a stupid and unnecessary post. Firstly, Kamran is bang in the middle of the period that you yourself say is an indicator of how things will turn out, and you've only seen the 4 month mark, which is showing good progress. You haven't yet seen month 5 or 6, so you're premature by at least two months according to your own argument!

    Secondly, there's lots of people on this forum - myself included - who have been to Eugenix and had excellent results despite not having surgery with Dr Sethi. Thirdly, Dr Sethi has techs in his surgeries just as Dr Das & Dr Arika. Almost all top surgeons do. Very few do the entirety of the work themselves.

    Lastly... Is this comment helpful at this stage? There's no reason at all to believe that this won't be a good result, and causing unnecessary worry to a patient early in their journey is thoughtless of you.

    Seems like the person you replied doesn’t have patience and just want to assume things in negative way .HT is a journey and it takes time after the hair shedding cycle is over no one can get the hairs grown over night .

    @NARMAKWe know you are on correct path and good growth .Please ignore such negative comments 

  14. 1 hour ago, NARMAK said:

    Hi bud, thanks for asking. I am holding off on my 5 month update for about another 4-5 days to reach the proper month mark. 

    What i can say is that its harder to see or show on camera new smaller hairs but i can feel some sprouting when i run my finger along the area. It's definitely going to take some more time to truly feel things are settling but the temple points are still not exactly where i would say they're blending in with the frontal hairline just yet. They're still lighter. I think there's hairs sprouting there too, so i just need to be patient i think. It's only just getting to month 5 and the ugly duckling phases only ended around Months 2 & 3.

    Hope things are going well for you too though. I have a new phone and i think the camera might be a little better, so probably take photos on that and upload them when possible. 

    Those smaller hairs will grow each day and you might gonna see better density the next month I think when you will touch the 6 month mark .I guess the temples ones are the one which are slow grower I guess this might the reason .Anyways seems to like there is improvement in this month too which is good to hear .Waiting for your posts when you are gonna reach the 5th month mark . 

    Things are good at my end too .The shedding is noticeable now and I will be a month post op tomorrow while some transplanted hairs have grown with very good pace .Will post some pics .

     

     

  15. 7 hours ago, Messi said:

    Question to anyone who has experienced this... 

    During the very first hair wash (1 day post-op) saw some minor bleeding in the recipient area in one spot, after pouring warm water from the cup over the area.  Bleeding stopped shortly after, but am a bit concerned. Has anyone experienced similar?  Did I dislodge a graft?  

    Thanks

    No matter who’s  your surgeon .The clinic is totally wrong here because the grafts take approx minimum 48-72 hours to get fix in the scalp after the surgery and that’s the reason it’s not advised to even touch them at all for first 3 days at minimum in most clinics .

     

    Please post some images of the recipient area .

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  16. 1 hour ago, general-etwan said:

    Hello everyone,

    First I want to thank everyone here who may have played a role in helping me find a clinic I was confident in and helped me achieve this. This will document the journey for me.

    Pre-HT Situation
    MPB runs very aggressively on my father's side of the family. My grandfather, two uncles, and father have all lost significant amounts of hair by their 20s-30s. In my early teens, I already had thin hair, but didn't recognize it at the time. The aggressive hair loss probably began around age 15. I wasn't into the science of hair loss back then and so I didn't really know what was happening/didn't think about it much. But by the time I was 18-20, I knew I had lost a significant amount, suffered from the mental and social effects of knowing I disliked the look so much, etc. Below is a progression of the situation at different ages.

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    I remember trying minoxidil very briefly in my early 20s, but quickly "gave up" after it (obviously) didn't regrow all of my hair. I also saw a dermatologist around age 22 who presented the option of finasteride to me, but I chose not to begin taking it at that time for a few reasons: 1) He (correctly) informed me that it would not regrow all of my hair, and 2) I was in a period of being irrationally scared of taking it based on claims I had read online. So I essentially continued to do nothing while still dreaming of the possibility of having a HT somewhere, somehow. At age 24 I had a transplant consultation at a world-renowned doctor in NYC, and was politely turned down for the possibility of a transplant. My hair loss was too aggressive, they said, and a transplant at the time would not yield satisfactory results. They also said they would require finasteride for 1 year first before even considering a procedure.

    So, at that point I was discouraged and essentially gave up again, though mentally I never gave up on trying to figure out how to change the situation. When you're still very young and suffer from this amount of hair loss, it makes you feel like you don't belong in many ways. Even though I've always had a fantastic family, great friends, and good people in my life, went to a great school, played sports, attended a great university and had several great involvements, I never felt confident in the look of having such aggressive hair loss and so I wore hats everywhere. The only time I would not wear a hat was when I was alone. I would read about hair cloning all the time, knowing it will probably be available someday, but that day surely won't come for decades yet.

    So in early 2021, at age 25, I tried something that I learned my father has done since his 20s: wear hair systems. I actually didn't even know that he wore them until I was in my early 20s; that is how authentic and natural they looked. One of my uncles was also starting to get into the process of wearing them, so they taught me all about them and I decided to try it out. I purchased systems online and took them to HairClub to apply and maintain. I did that for about 8 months in 2021 and sported a bit of a medium-length messy look on top. There are pros and cons to hair systems. The pros were that they looked pretty good and allowed me to go outside without hat wearing which was a whole new feeling of freedom that I appreciated. The cons are that they become very expensive recurring costs, the adhesives break down constantly and require regular maintenance (appointments, scheduling), the daily time commitment of styling and making sure the edges were not coming up, the careful washing in the shower, the occasional irritation. Ultimately, I decided that continuing to wear systems forever was simply not satisfactory enough for me. I am a very active person and while you absolutely can learn to make systems work with an active lifestyle, it certainly is not without irritation and annoyance, and it just wasn't what I wanted to do going forward.

    In January 2022 at age 26, after reading a lot of the science behind it, I decided I was going to try finasteride, as I was no longer irrationally afraid of any side effect claims. I did not experience any noticeable negative side effects and within a few months already started to see some improvement around the edge of the pattern of hair loss. I also added minoxidil and microneedling to that strategy; simply a "final stand" attempt at a natural hair recovery.

    By spring, I had found Eugenix and had read a lot of the cases posted here. I was highly impressed with what they've done for higher Norwoods, and finding a clinic that was also within my financial means for the number of grafts I would need also felt like a miracle. At first they quoted me for around 5,500 grafts; upon more communication I requested they plan to be as aggressive as possible because I care far less about the back and sides of my head than I do the top. They re-assessed a plan for 6,500 grafts using 4,500 scalp donor + 2,000 beard donor, but I did understand that was a high projection and it would likely end up being around the original estimation. 

    First, some pre-HT pictures from the last year or so (age 24-26):

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    Eugenix Pre-HT Plans
    I chose the Exclusive Package at Eugenix, which is 120 INR/graft + 18% tax (so about $1.45 USD/graft right now). The Exclusive Package has the procedure led by a senior doctor; senior doctor performs 100% of slits and then all extraction and implantation is performed by senior technicians. I was informed that Dr. Priyadarshini Das would be doing my HT, and I've seen great work from her in some other cases. I also received complimentary 4 nights in a 5-star hotel, all transportation from New Delhi airport to the hotel and to the clinic, and food included in that package. They scheduled me for September 15-16 and I began my travel planning.

    I only told a few people about my plans early on because I wanted to focus on all of the travel planning required without worrying people in addition. Only a few people in my family have traveled very far; certainly never to the other side of the Earth. I was never even on an airplane myself until age 24, but I'm very independently driven and I had no concerns about my ability to travel to India to do this. It was worth it for me. I just didn't want to worry too many people too early, because not everyone understands everything involved, and attempting to explain everything to people who aren't into this topic can be very exhausting.

    I am from the eastern USA so I chose a flight from JFK to DEL for around $1,000 round trip. Direct flight from JFK to DEL, but then on the way home, a stop in Doha, Qatar to save money. It would have been $600 more for a direct flight home. I had miles racked up from a credit card, so I actually ended up only paying about $200 out of pocket for my flights. My procedure was scheduled for September 15-16, Thursday and Friday, so I had to leave home on Tuesday evening to arrive in New Delhi Wednesday evening. 

    I had to have blood work done a few weeks prior and forward the results to Eugenix for standard inspection: red/white blood cells, Hep, HIV, prothrombin time, etc.

    The communication from Eugenix leading up to my travel was excellent. I had members of the Eugenix Concierge team reach out to me consistently every few days to ensure I was prepared, understood the way things would go, etc.

    Evening Before HT
    After about a 15-hour flight from NYC to DEL, which honestly wasn't too bad because I slept for most of it, I arrived at Indira Gandhi International Airport a little after 9 pm Wednesday night and proceeded through customs and immigration. As for travel documents needed for this journey: passport, India e-visa printout, negative covid test result (if not providing vaccine card), and Air Suvidha declaration form required for all international passengers arriving to India.

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    I was contacted by the concierge team in the airport and was informed of how to locate my driver who was waiting to take me to the DoubleTree by Hilton hotel. Upon walking outside to the taxi area, I was immediately bombarded with multiple "taxi drivers" asking me where I was going, offering rides, etc. I was prepared for these "scams" ahead of time as I had heard about them. It was a bit chaotic and I was trying to find the gate where my Hilton driver was, but it took me about 5-10 minutes and in that time I was approached by 5-10 taxi drivers offering rides and demanding info on where I was going. You have to just politely say "I already have travel arranged, thank you" and keep walking away. Eventually I found the Hilton representative and my driver, who had his car parked in the parking lot. He went and got his car, pulled up to the curb, took my bags, and we proceeded to the hotel. 

    I stayed in the DoubleTree by Hilton in Gurugram (Baani Square) which is only a couple minutes down the street from the Eugenix clinic. All of the attendants at the hotel were fantastic in getting me checked in and settled in my room. By that time it was after midnight and I had been informed of my reporting time at 9 am to Eugenix the next morning.

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    Day 1
    I woke up around 8 am and stuck to my breakfast snacks I had brought with me because I didn't have a lot of time. At 9 am Eugenix called me and said the driver was outside; he picked me up in a very nice luxury SUV and we proceeded to the clinic. I brought my backpack with me with just a few belongings needed and a buttoned shirt which you need to wear after the procedure starts so you're not messing up your head. The roads in Gurgaon/Gurugram are very chaotic. The constant honking, aggressive maneuvers of drivers, but I found it amusing.

    There, I checked in with some attendants and they showed me around. Then I was met by some doctors who informed me of how things would go, gave me some medication, etc. Then Dr. Das greeted me. Then I was met by a leading technician (who would take the primary care for me for all 3 days) and he led me into the photo area to take pre-HT photos. Below are some of those.

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    Dr. Das was initially stressed at the examination of the situation; I could tell. Her goal was to get 4,000 grafts from scalp donor area but she told me honestly that she was not sure if she could get 4,000. I did seem to experience some thinning in the 2 months leading up to the procedure, which I'm not sure why occurred...I do not know whether finasteride's effects hit a plateau and reversed, or if it was temporary caused by stress or something, or just an illusion. Anyway, Dr. Das then consulted with me for 15-30 minutes on the design of the HT on big screens with these pictures. We agreed on no temple work because it would require too many grafts, and when I grow my hair out, my temples are still acceptable to me anyway. She suggested a pretty conservative hairline, which of course I understood because of the advanced hair loss. She also explained that the plan would be to cover to the upper part of the crown, but not all the way down to the lower donor area, for 2 reasons: 1) Not enough grafts available and 2) that lower crown region is area that can improve with finasteride + minoxidil and be addressed in other ways. So, the plan was to cover approximately the below area (though I drew the hairline inaccurately), utilizing 1,000-2,000 beard grafts as well since I have good facial hair:

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    Once we agreed to the plan, an assistant sat down with me and went over the pricing and payment, and we took care of that. Then the lead caregiving technician got me ready with a change of clothes and settled me into the room, made sure I was comfortable, and began the preparation.

    First I was given the local anesthesia all over the top of the scalp and the donor area. Dr. Das made all of the slits across the entire scalp, which I could feel the sensation of but of course not feel the pain from. That took a while. Then the leading techs began the extractions and implantations; the first day consisted of using scalp donor hair from the sides of the head on the hairline and the middle half of the scalp. I believe 2,400 grafts were implanted the first day according to the whiteboard the next day. Lunch was around 2-3 pm and they order anything you want; I'm a big pizza and fast food guy (bad I know) so they ordered some pepperoni pizzas for me which were very good. They also ask you what kind of music you like and they'll put on a playlist on a big TV in the room. They played some rap/hip-hop, pop, and some relaxing meditation music which was all uniquely enjoyable. After all the slits were made, Dr. Das left but would check in every 30 minutes or so during the extraction and implantation. We finished up around 6-7 pm. I was given full instructions on how to care for my head overnight along with a kit of items; mainly a bottle of saline spray that I was told to spray on the recipient area every hour. Also an absorption cloth to put on the pillow at night to absorb the donor area.

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    Day 2
    The second day again began at 9 am. I was able to wake up earlier and order room service breakfast at the hotel. Chocolate chip pancakes, one of my favorites.

    The plan for the second day was to cover the mid-scalp all the way back to the crown. The hair in the middle of the scalp donor area was used for this. I believe around 1,600 were implanted, bringing the 2-day total to 4,000 grafts.

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    Note that in the donor area on the back, I have a scar where no hair grows...that is just a scar from a cut in childhood; leaving it alone was absolutely fine with me.

    Day 3
    The entire area had been covered in the first two days but rather than rush to extract and implant beard grafts for more density Friday night, after an already long day, Dr. Das wanted to take Saturday to finish everything up. 1,300 beard grafts were used I believe in the mid-scalp to crown region. This part of the local anesthesia was the most painful as the jaw area can be very sensitive, but I just had to push through and get it done. A lot of this work was done in a position that allowed me to sit upright leaning over the reclined chair and I was able to use my phone a bit.

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    My head was very sore after these 3 days and I also started experiencing a lot pain in the implantation phase; the anesthesia kept wearing off so the technician had to keep giving me more, which blew my head up like a balloon (not seen here; the worst of it happened later that night and the next day). It was exhausting to say the least, but I felt extremely cared for by the team and they did whatever they had to do to make me as comfortable as possible. 

    So the total was 5,300 grafts (4,000 scalp + 1,300 beard). When we finished up, Dr. Das inspected everything and expressed that she was super happy with the density achieved given the situation, and also that she was able to get 4,000 grafts from scalp donor. I was able to go sit in the "chill" room for a while, eat lunch, and relax. Then we took post-HT pictures.

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    I had seen Dr. Sethi while walking through the clinic, so after a few minutes I asked an assistant about him and they said "Oh yeah, of course, he's going to be so happy to see you" or something like that. Then I met Dr. Sethi; he has an absolutely elated personality. He examined the work done and then grabbed my hand and said "Come on, let's go!" It was a busy Saturday at the clinic and there were multiple people there for consultations/planning. Dr. Sethi took my hand and led me all around the building, showing my results to people and having me say hello to other technicians and team members I had not met yet. He asked me where I was from, about my family and schooling, etc. It was a SUPER fun time and his care made me feel fantastic after an exhausting procedure. Dr. Arika Bansal also arrived sometime after and I briefly got to say hello to her on the stairs, and she smiled a bunch at me and told me to send her pictures of the results as time went on. I wish I had taken some selfies with them but everything was chaotic and I was just focused on enjoying the moments. 

    Then I spent at least a half hour with one of the leading doctors who gave me a kit full of items and explained the post-care to me. This included: saline spray for the recipient area every hour for 7 days, betadine solution and healing ointment for the donor area daily for 7 days, recovery medication to take for 7 days, months supply of hair growth vitamins, a year's worth of finasteride tablets at no cost, more absorption cloths for pillow, many surgical caps to wear gently over the head if desired while out/traveling, a neck pillow to help with sleeping for the first few nights, a letter to TSA instructing permission for me to travel with oversized items if stopped at the airport (I was not), a book by a Yogi, and an absolutely beautiful letter thanking me for entrusting this clinic and promising a lifetime of friendship.

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    Weekend & Travel Home
    I extended my hotel reservation by one night, so I stayed 5 nights stay total. Saturday evening and Sunday I simply relaxed and caught up some movies I wanted to watch in my hotel room. My head was blown up from all the fluid in it; I had to keep pressing it to the sides of my forehead and downward to help the body get rid of it more quickly. Sleeping was not too bad at all. I left Monday morning; my driver took me to the airport and I was on my way back home. Well, first to Doha, which was a fun few hours in Hamad Airport, and then the long flight back home to JFK.

    I chose to wear my surgical cap and a loose high-crown hat over top of it, just 2 days after the procedure was finished. If you are careful, this is absolutely safe to do, as the top of the hat lays above the head and does not put pressure on the recipient area.

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    I especially want to thank the leading caregiver technician who worked with me for all three days. He led me around, told me what was next, took all of my pictures, took care of my Gatorade and water drinks, phone, made sure my positions in the chair were comfortable, etc. I did not get to learn his name and wish I had, but he treated me like royalty, as did everyone on the team, and I would never expect or ask for so much love. It made my anxiety in a completely unknown place go away and he made me feel great about every step of the procedure.

    I will be posting some updates here since it has already been a few weeks, though I don't plan to spend as much time on this forum as maybe some users going forward. But I know there is a lot of interest in Eugenix and cases like mine, so I will be sure to check in. If you desire, you can also follow me on Instagram @ethanlculver (http://instagram.com/ethanlculver) as I enjoy responding to DMs on there, and I may upload some pictures in the future of the results, if you should be interested. Thank you to all here who contributed to me embarking on this journey. See you around!

    Excellent write up bro and the work looks real good .Now it’s a waiting game for us. 

    btw I was also operated by Dr Das on 17 th September. Follow my journey here - 

    https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/65971-eugenix-norwood-2sep-20222207-graftsdr-priyadarshini-das/#comment-675261

    Also please post your 20 days post op progress if you can .

     

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  17. On 10/7/2022 at 12:01 PM, tchami said:

    I have read a lot of glowing reviews about Eugenix; however, most of these reviewers seem to have opted for the most expensive packages that they offer.

    anyone have any experiences with their cheaper (INR 75/INR 120 per graft) packages? and what results you have gotten from them?

    I recently had my HT from Eugenix and was operated by Dr Priyadarshini Das and she comes under 120rs Package . You can see my journey which has both pre and post op pics and also the progress so far .

    Journey link - https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/65971-eugenix-norwood-2sep-20222207-graftsdr-priyadarshini-das/#comment-675261

     

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