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38 minutes ago, Z-- said:

pekiner >> bicer >> turan

100%

https://www.mancity.com/news/club/hwt-clinic-partnership-announcement-63736530

Has anyone actually heard of this clinic or these doctors?

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Mwamba is obviously the main guy

But I've seen a case on here where Laorwong fills in a FUT scar I think

Eugenix are also known for it

thanks man

do you have photos of the front?

2 minutes ago, BeHappy said:

I've got some beard hair on the hair line and lots of beard and chest hair just behind it. It looks fine on me. The thing is, beard hair varies greatly between people, so even if it grows straight and blends with scalp hair nicely on one person, that doesn't mean it will look the same on someone with a different type of beard hair. If you currently grow a beard then take a good assessment of how curly, coarse, and wiry it is. The softer it is and the more it matches with your scalp hair then the better it will turn out. Also keep in mind that almost everyone who had beard hair done says it softens at least somewhat over time. I can say that has been the case with mine as well, so even if it doesn't look so great at 6 or 9 months after the transplant, it will most likely improve over the next year or two. Most "After" pics you will find of beard hair being used won't be at the 2 to 3 year mark after it's softened up, so keep that in mind. I think people see the 9 month pics and think beard hair looks terrible. It usually does at that point. It gets better from there.

 

I have started intermittent fasting, and IF is known to improve autophagy. I wonder if this could be a benefit when recovering from a surgery and speeding up/optimising growth

I often see people point blank shoot down beard hairs in the frontal part of the head, but why? I understand not using it in the hairline or even the first two cm, but what about about 2 cm behind? Surely a small amount would be fine?

Has anybody else done this?

18 minutes ago, Konsole93 said:

Hi, I know  some friends who are born with such a patchy donor or have many scsrs i would leave it for now.

 

In your dispenser you can see punches at the bottom, was hair taken from there too? If so, from mwamba or the other clinic?

That's well below the semi safe zone, were the soft singles used for the hairline? Otherwise the work looks really  good by mwamba. I like the temples very much.

Personally, I don't like the arrangement of mwamba in the hairline in general. But that's a matter of taste, I like the irregular arrangement of the grafts.

Do you still have soft singles for the hair line? , otherwise you would have to use normal singles or share mutlis.

Yes those nape hairs were used for temples

Donor definitely needs more work

1 minute ago, HappyMan2021 said:

can you clarify, do you mean they don't want to deal with extracting badly angled recipient grafts? 

that is really dumb as extracting badly angled grafts is basically the same process as extracting fresh/new grafts from the donor area. 

If you only have a handful of badly angled grafts, I would maybe consider electrolysis before your next surgery. It's helpful too that it seems these bad angled grafts aren't around dense hair. 

Two quite highly rated doctors have said point blank - 'we absolutely do not extract grafts from the hairline'. I guess they are worried about scarring, but as you can see from my photos, I have maybe maximum 50 grafts, if that, on my temple.

I'd much rather try to recycle them than waste them, as I need all the potential grafts I can get.

Very frustrating and really does reduce the pool of potential surgeons.

I would favour this approach bro. 
 

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   A hybrid of the above two solutions: extract a small number in the corners to raise temples a bit, extract a small number more from donor area to create the middle of the peak.

I think it's obvious now that OP is actually Conor McGregor.

The donor doesn't look bad when shaved down. But when grown out for a week or two the right side shows a large barren batch (again, way better than before though).

38 minutes ago, SXP92 said:

Any updates on how meeting with Mwamba went? what's next?

Hey bro

So there is no definitive answer about why the hairline didn't grow in, but a possible reason speculated on by Dr Mwamba is that too much may have been happening at the same time - too many new grafts and punch outs on the hairline, this causing trauma etc. Maybe too much attempted density is something I feel could have contributed too.

While the hairline isn't great, I am tempted to shave my hair down to see what the state of the 'botch corners' are - they seem like they're a little denser than before the op with Mwamba, but I can't tell for sure right now.

We discussed removing (and recycling to the FHL) a few more grafts from around my hairline/temple points (maybe 50 in total), and doing a small harvest of the dark patch at the bottom of my donor, to be used in the FHL.

This would be a couple of hundred grafts at the most to be used in the FHL. This way we could keep things under control better and not overload the area with too many grafts. While I know this would not be enough to get full density or coverage, anything is better than nothing, and plus I want to get rid of some ugly grafts around my temple points anyway, that could be better put to work in the front. I definitely do not want to take another 1000 grafts from my donor to try and fix the front when there's no guarantee of growth.

I also want a couple of hundred beard grafts to be put in my donor to improve it even more. After that, I think I'm done with all this (I hope).

But I am taking my time making a decision on this right now as I want to explore all my options. 

Unfortunately, I am finding that most doctors just want nothing at all to do with punch-outs or beard grafts. As a result, many of the doctors I have enquired with just point blank refuse or start ghosting. 

Regardless, I won't take any action until I'm certain in my decision. 

9 minutes ago, saulgoodbruv said:

Can anybody share the rates of Dr. Ahmad (FueGenix)?

I believe from around 22k euros. He doesn't charge by graft, but by operation.

3 hours ago, jxkm2 said:

Clean as usual, I can't wait to see the results at 6 months post op. Just booked Pekiner for June 2024.

Did you choose for next year or is that just his waiting list?

On 5/13/2023 at 2:31 AM, Heisenberg said:

Interested to know who you recommend in Europe? Dr Tam has proposed charging me over £15,000, and I'm barely a Norwood 3.

I have never seen a SINGLE independent review from Mark Tam. Honestly, just stay away.

On 2/21/2023 at 8:55 PM, Nelly said:

Good luck bud, I’m sure you’ll have a great experience. You’re cheeky to ask for that, but hey ho. You should put up what your goals and objectives are for other members of this community to give you some feedback to. I can’t see that you’ve done that as of yet. 

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31 minutes ago, burnerboy808 said:

Sorry I meant Mittal not being accredited led me away from him but if that is not important then I will reassess

I think my main 2 surgeon choices would then be Mittal or Farjo. What is your opinion on their work, they both look really good to me but if we are comparing reviews I have never ever seen a negative one for Mittal.

I dont know if that is a bad thing because he is new or if he is just that good?

If I got a consultation between both too, would  it make a difference if I spoke to the doctor directly or someone from their team?

 

Read my comments above bro. Reddy is a decent surgeon. Mittal I just don't know. Personally I wouldn't go to him. Farjo is ok too.

You would be doing yourself a disservice by not going to Dr Ball for a consultation.

One thing alot of the UK surgeons have in common is that they are very conservative in their hairlines.

7 hours ago, burnerboy808 said:

Thank you for your reply! Yeah , adamant for UK

 

Thank you for this information too, I may look further into Mittal now. The ABHRS turned me away but if its not as important thats fine 

 

Thank you again.

What do you mean 'they turned you away'?

On 6/7/2023 at 6:38 PM, burnerboy808 said:

Hi all,

Have been doing some research in trying to find a good surgeon in London for a hair transplant. Completely understand I can go out of the UK and get a 'better' job done at probably a fraction of the price but I do not wish to travel.

I will add I am a norwood 3 at the moment with a slight crown balding

Upon research I have discovered a few surgeons that seem to always appear;

Manish Mittal, Raghu Reddy, Farjo and Dr D'Souza 

From what I understand Reddy is the most expensive but produces superb results

Manish Mittal looked good and was my first option before I started researching/looking deeper.

However a  lot of the reviews I see on forums are from people with 1 post/new accounts etc. Seemed a little fishy, plus I believe a lot of his before/after pictures are in bright light/dimmed light

Furthermore he doesnt seem to be accredited by the ABHRS which I found very strange?

I have heard good results from thedsouzaclinic but it seems they have no before/after pictures on the website which I found  strange too? How can I rate a surgeon if i dont see their work

Farjo I have heard is hit or miss from my research

Does anyone have any experience with the above people and can recommend them? Is ABHRS Accreditation as important as it sounds?

I also agree with your Manish Mittal assessment. Just about every review I've seen about him seems contrived and 'rehearsed'. Having said that, I haven't seen any negative reviews about him either.

2 hours ago, 1978matt said:

ABHRS you have to apply, sit exam(s), present examples of your work and attend interviews to discuss.  Not that many doctors bother to obtain it though.

It's not a cast iron guarantee of a quality outcome but at least one valuable indicator of competence.

 

These 'governing bodies' largely mean nothing and are 'pay-to-play' organisations. Ignore them and look for patient results and testimonials.

Never ever seen a single case from d'souza

Reddy is decent

Farjo is decent

Check out Dr Ball of the Maitland Clinic too

Sorry to hear this bro. Utter scumbags. I would try to live it with it for a year and see how you feel before going for another procedure. Also, have realistic expectations - alot of repairs just don't work perfectly, due to limited donor, damaged recipients etc

Excited to see how this turns out.

HDC are a very professional, and very ethical clinic. Would recommend them to anyone