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Nader is simply better than all of them.  I used to have HMR and Nader kinda close, but have seen some pretty meh results from HMR recently.

Like many others asked, why Turkey specifically?

Best in Turkey is Pekiner.  

If you're doing it strictly for budget, considering your list, I think Nader in Mexico is both close to the US, and also better than everyone on your list.

Hard to know, as there's no research per say.  But one thing is for sure, not fasting won't cause harm.  Why risk it?  Maybe the temporary lack of nutrients causes your body to go into a starvation mode where it prioritizes fast scarring of skin to block up injuries, and less so on creating new capilaries and blood sources for grafts, ending up rejecting them?

I don't think it's worth experimenting with someone like fasting under very niche conditions that we have no information about.

If I was going Mexico, while HMR is decent, I think Nader is simply superior.

Looks good.  While I’d never set foot in Diep’s clinic, this is one of his better results.  Good density, nice hairline, and seemingly excellent yield.  Enjoy the new hair.

Looking fantastic!  Again, best surgeon in Turkey, easily.

WOW!  Cara, parabens!  Que resultado fenomenal!  

Amazing results.  Pittella knocked this one out of the park!

Dr. Ferreira is a higher tier surgeon than Bicer in my eyes.  If budget isn't an issue, I'd always personally go for the best you can get.  

On 4/28/2023 at 7:42 PM, arthurSam said:

Max grafts extract for fue is 2000 in the safe area

Absolutely false.

As for the question itself, it's pretty much an outdated method in most cases.  The only advantage is for people with high scalp laxity, they can get more grafts in total if they do a combination of FUT + FUE.  For normal laxity, I'd say there's almost no advantages, and tons of disadvantages.  

Month 2.5+ things exploded.

Nerve pain should eventually go away, and should at most take a few months.  Nerves are very slow to heal, but they do heal.

Day zero, if you are 100% certain that you won't touch the grafts.  Can you be certain of this?  Absolutely not, so you shouldn't do it haha.

When it's safe to do?  Day 10 you're more than fine to rub against grafts gently.  Doesn't mean you should, but grafts are pretty secure by then.

I think I was wearing non button shirts as early as day 3, but that's not a good idea, I just know myself, I have good body coordination and I was hyper careful to put them on without touching anything.  I would not recommend this.

Take this with a grain of salt, but this is my understanding:

There are 2 advantages to sleeping upright.  One is that it drastically helps to reduce swelling in the face and head, as it lets gravity do its thing, and two, it makes it much less likely that you'll turn in your sleep and rub the grafts against the bed.

It's very important the first few days that you sleep on your back.  Sleeping upright can be the best way to insure this happens.

I don't think the actual angle itself does very much specifically for graft survival though.  

18 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

I don’t know why doctors don’t do this more often. It would probably help any nocebo effect with patients who finasteride. In Spain they have to compound minoxidil. I’m gonna ask why they don’t compound it with cialis, it makes sense they’re vasodilators. Any negative effects from fin or dut would be alleviated too.

If anything, regardless of fin sides; they’d probably have better performance due to the low cialis dose.

22 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Thanks for the clarification, I didn’t know you didn’t have hair loss. I think I speak for many, how did you get cialis, viagra, and minoxidil compounded in one pill. Damn thats a stack 😅

Lol!  There are pharmacies that do custom meds, and Dr. has those pills custom made for him.  He gave me the 3 month worth of pills as I was leaving the clinic day of transplant.

15 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Why did you stop?

Because I never needed it in the first place.  I've had no hair loss during my entire life (just born with a large forehead).  I spoke to my Dr. about this, and he still recommended oral minoxidil for the first few months, as it would help the new grafts take.

Keep in mind, my implant density was 80+ grafts/cm2.  I was taking a pill that has a blend of Minoxidil, Cialis, Viagra and Arginine, all to increase bloodflow to the skin and with the objective of making graft survival as high as possible in such a densely packed procedure.

On my 1 year checkup, he told me that I'm looking great, and that he would recommend me getting on Minoxidil/Dutest or Fin, in the case where I see any thinning starting to happen.  As that hasn't happend yet though, I don't see a reason to get back on the Minoxidil.  

When I say my hair might be slightly thinner, it's just slightly thinner than my peak density (at the 1 year mark), but I don't think it's any thinner than it was before the HT.  I just lost the Minoxidil gains I got (which I don't think were really necessary, as my density was pretty high to begin with).

EDIT:  I would obviously get on the main meds if in the future I started thinning to any significant degree.  

13 hours ago, Maballack said:

Hi, you stated grafts survival with Dr Pekiner is good, do you have any insight, would he be as good as Bisanga and H&W for Follicules survival and Yield growth. What about Dr Yaman and Dr Bicer ?

We're comparing apples and oranges.  H&W is mostly a tech clinic with great techs (techs do a lot of the work, but not to be confused with a hair mill), whereas Pekiner is more hands on.  That said, H&W is a great clinic, because the techs are excellent, and they've been doing it a long time.  Yeah, I'd say Pekiner's graft survival rate is elite tier, right up there amongst the best.  

I think Pekiner's hairlines are top 5 easily for me in the world.  The only negative would be that I see some multies escape here and there in hairlines (not enough to ruin the hairline, but they do appear sometimes).  It has been brought to my attention though that this also happens to most surgeons who are considered very good.

What about Bicer?  I think Pekiner is simply superior.  I think Bicer is decent, but in my view, Bicer's value has been inflated due to being very recommended on this forum.  

Literally can't get any skin.

Hard to say without seeing your facial proportions whether you are being stupid in looking at a HT.  Sometimes, if the lower two thirds are really small, even your hairline can make the forehead appear large.

Personally, I really like Pekiner when it comes to hairline work.  The only downside to him is that he does allow some multies to creep into the hairline, which is not ideal.  But artistically, his hairlines, even without that defect, are very good.

Freitas is a good choice too though.

When it comes to excellent hairlines, Pekiner is absolutely at the highest level in Turkey.  
 

Now, if you’re a NW 7 and looking to do most with less, there are other things to consider other than hairline.  

37 minutes ago, IcyNeighborhood99 said:

That was my personal favorite choice as well. Would consider someone else over Nader given my pattern of hair loss? 

I think there’s little reason to.  He’s a great choice, especially when considering budget.

36 minutes ago, IcyNeighborhood99 said:

That was my personal favorite choice as well. Would consider someone else over Nader given my pattern of hair loss? 

I think there’s little reason to.  He’s a great choice, especially when considering budget.

Out of those, I'd personally go with Nader.

If Dr. Nader is within your price range, he'd be an insta pick for me out of that list.  

Thiago Bianco can plant over 100/cm2 according to him.  I’ve seen a case of Konior do the same (the patient complained about the result being very unnaturaly dense).  My HT was between 75 and 81 fu/cm2 (counted at multiple spots).

I would not trust just any surgeon to do this.  Too high a density done badly can = loss of grafts or even necrosis at the worst case.

And the vast majority of people will never need nor should they be recommended anything above 65 imo.