Fue3361

19 hours ago, mark91 said:

interestingly, even 81 grafts seems a lot less than your native density. Which is weird, as native density is usually 80-100 grafts. Unless you just have extremely high native density? or perhaps its just becuase the hairs look shorter in this photo or something. your actual result looks incredible, congrats man.

Well, the difference between 80 and 100 is a big difference.

Phenomenal result!  I hope you're super happy about it, you should be!

Work looks good!  I look forward to seeing it in 6 months!

18 hours ago, mxnprettynice said:

@Fue3361

Thank you! Your kind words mean a lot.

Honestly you're an inspiration from this forum. I've gone through both of your HT threads, and you experienced the ideal hair transplant journey, rivaled only by @TorontoMan. It's awesome that you're still around. Truly, legend.

Always lurking haha.  Don't have much to report on my own case as it's pretty much done.  But enjoy seeing everyone else's progress, and giving my own take on things when something interesting pops up.

Give it a shot!

4 hours ago, Chrisno said:

Here you go, count them. Red area is exactly 1 sq cm of my scalp, that was completely bald before my transplant, i.e., no native hairs there. 85 grafts. My entire transplant is this dense.

Photo is from 8 days post op when all scabs were off. As you can see, no visible 'rows'.

This is a great transplant in terms of density.  But going along with the topic, you have no rows (which at least aesthetically speaking, is objectively superior).

edit: although to be fair, hard to see if there are rows without a zoomed out photo of a bigger area.

2 hours ago, BaldV said:

You cant seriously believe he implanted you with 85g/cm2

Mine was over 80 in some areas, with complete randomness and no rows.  

I'm not a fan at all of using rows.  Now, does rows necessarily mean a bad result?  No.  But is it ideal, hell no.  It's just lazy.  There's no argument you can make that you "couldn't do it more randomly".  Rows are just easier to do for a surgeon.  Any other explanation is an excuse to make the surgery easier to do.

Looks like you've never had any hair loss at all.  What a fantastic 8 month result.  Hopefully we'll get a 1 year update soon.

Dr. Thiago Bianco in Brazil

They don’t.  But people style their hair that way in photos in order to show the hairline work.

Pekiner is easily the best if judging by hairlines.

13 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Honestly, genetics is everything, after that hormones. Fitness and diet play a very small role. David Goggins, extremely healthy and fit is bald. 
@Fue3361

would love to see an update bro 🙏

I'll dm you an update.  I'll do a full post update at the 2 year mark (late September).

3 hours ago, alopeciaphobia said:

Just a totally random thought. This makes me wonder if regular cardio or whole foods plant-based diets would improve graft survival rates after surgery. Because both are really effective in making/keeping arteries healthy.

My diet and fitness has always been on point.  

3 minutes ago, alopeciaphobia said:

Thanks so much for responding. Did you start taking the medication on the day of the surgery?

Also if you can look up the exact dosage that would be amazing. I think it would be great to have that kind of information "eternalized" on this forum for perfectionist folks like us who like to give themselves any possible edge.

Yeah, same day, after operation.  I'm pretty sure I'm correct on those dosages.

7 hours ago, alopeciaphobia said:

What an incredibly unique case, and an extremely aesthetically pleasing, dense NW1 hairline. If donor supply wasn't finite, I think many people would aim to get results like you. Perhaps if future verteporfin trials prove to be effective in regenerating donor hair, results like this may become more achievable for more people.

@Fue3361 I'm very curious to hear the full protocol, including dosages and times taken per day. I'm surprised that you were on both Cialis and Viagra. Their mechanism of action is pretty much the same, and Viagra lasts much shorter. So I'm wondering why the doctor didn't go with Cialis alone.

Yeah.  My results are even better now that we're almost 2 years in.  It's looking great.

As for protocol, was just one pill a day, for 3 months.  The pill, if I'm not mistaking had 2.5mg of Cialis, 2.5mg of Viagra, and it also had 5mg of minoxidil + arginine.  If you really want to know, I can look for what the Arginine dosage was, although I think it was 5mg.

7 hours ago, Grouse said:

Right, but he had FUT. So there would be no pits anywhere, just the long strip scar. Which I actually think looks better / cooler than a bunch of weird white spots tbh.

Right, but doesn't your donor continue to thin? What happens to those that get Fin side effects 5 years later - their already thin transplanted hair will thin out as they get into their 40's, 50's, 60's etc. I guess I am not convinced a transplant is a life long solution (at least for me), and that is ok. I only want hair to help find a wife - then it can go  

I hadn't thought of this. I would need to travel a long ways for my hair transplant, so need to think about how I could do this. Thank you for your pictures and recommendations!

I said in recipient region.

1 hour ago, Bucky O Hair said:

It's because he lost so much hair that he has to.

He's stated before that he regrets getting a hair transplant.  Mind you, he got FUT and has a nasty looking strip scar on the back of his head, so this is likely the main reason why he regrets it.

 

It was an example of someone who shaves head and has no apparent issues in recipient area post transplant.  No scars/pits etc

Joe rogan has no issue doing it

On 7/2/2023 at 11:55 PM, formesenlair said:

This is helpful to know. Are there any surgeons  youve  heard of that are especially good with the temples?

My short list right now is Keser, HLC, and Bisanga but I will have to see how they do with  temples.

I might be biased, but I think my surgeon is the best when it comes to temples, he does an amazing job with them.  But his style is very specific (he tends to do them more horizontal/boxed in usually.  Though I've seen variation depending on facial structure.  I had him do mine and they turned out amazing.

Since you want it rounded the way you have it, and lowered even more, you need to be careful that you go to someone who knows how to work with the temporal region.  The angling and direction of the grafts drastically changes in that area, and if done badly, you'll be looking at a nightmare of a job to fix.

Personally, I like Thiago Bianco in Brazil when it comes to Temples.  I had mine with him.  But make sure, whoever you pick, you find some before/after of their work that includes temples.  Some clinics do really good work on hairlines, and absolutely have no concept of how to rebuild the sides.

Me, personally, I’d not go to a surgeon that does more than 1.  Maybe if he really had a stupidly good reputation, but usually not.

But, in general, more than 2 is a big red flag.

Obviously a hair transplant is better long term.  Hair systems are a huge pain, and can really mess with your mentally long term, as you'll always feel like you're hiding something.

That said, 5k is kinda on the lower end of possible budget, I'd save up another 5k then start looking with a healthier budget.

I'd say there's no real limit these days, depending on clinic.  You have places doing over 10k grafts FUE in one day, and doing a great job of it.

It really depends on method, size of team, experience, etc.

Only worth it if you have the budget to afford a Dr who specializes in it.  Most doctors do crap work on temporal peaks.